HEEEERE Comes a new CoD game!

[pontifex]

another cod hate thread. /yawn

come up with something new guys, you're actually worse than cod because there's always like 50 of these threads every time there's any sliver of cod news.

quit giving us the same rehashed bullshit comments.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Can someone explain to me what is so outrageous about yearly installments? I don't see people freaking out when a TV show comes back every season.

1. most people don't directly spend money to watch specific shows

2. there really wouldn't be anything outrageous about it if each new release saw substantial improvements instead of being more of just the same, if not making the game worse (particularly for PC gamers where things really have only gone downhill since COD4/MW1)

the major problem originates around the point that the games simply have not been a good deal at $60 a pop for a franchise that is turning into shovelware relative to what it used to be as the pinnacle innovating shooter

another cod hate thread. /yawn

come up with something new guys, you're actually worse than cod because there's always like 50 of these threads every time there's any sliver of cod news.

quit giving us the same rehashed bullshit comments.

another pontifex defending bad games post. /yawn

 

[Sulaco]

quit giving us the same rehashed bullshit comments.

The irony. It's delicious.

 

[BD2003]

I'm trying to figure out what people are more outraged at...that it's a predictable annual release or that it's cod. (Although I'm pretty sure I know the answer. )

So putting aside any game in particular for a moment...the only games that can justify the budget to put them out so frequently are huge franchises with huge fanbases that practically guarantee sales...so isn't this as simple as giving the people more of what they want? Why is that such a bad thing?

 

[PimpJuice]

Dont like it? Dont buy it!

 

[purbeast0]

I'm trying to figure out what people are more outraged at...that it's a predictable annual release or that it's cod. (Although I'm pretty sure I know the answer. )

So putting aside any game in particular for a moment...the only games that can justify the budget to put them out so frequently are huge franchises with huge fanbases that practically guarantee sales...so isn't this as simple as giving the people more of what they want? Why is that such a bad thing?

people are outraged because people on this forum hate seeing successful products/companies get more successful and make more money. then when anybody likes the product that those companies produce, they label them as sheep.

then they will blame that as the reason their niche genre no longer exists when the reality is that their niche genre is just that ... a niche, which unfortunately doesn't make much money which is the whole reason the video game industry exists. they want the industry to adapt to their needs, and if it doesn't they bitch and moan, instead of adapting to the industry.

EDIT:

oh and i have to comment on your analogy ... probably the failest thing i've ever seen you type, no offense ;.

 

[BD2003]

people are outraged because people on this forum hate seeing successful products/companies get more successful and make more money. then when anybody likes the product that those companies produce, they label them as sheep.

then they will blame that as the reason their niche genre no longer exists when the reality is that their niche genre is just that ... a niche, which unfortunately doesn't make much money which is the whole reason the video game industry exists. they want the industry to adapt to their needs, and if it doesn't they bitch and moan, instead of adapting to the industry.

EDIT:

oh and i have to comment on your analogy ... probably the failest thing i've ever seen you type, no offense ;.

It was really finishing AC:R that made me make that connection. A certain character died because the actress seemingly had better things to do. New side characters were introduced that didn't even survive the game. The subplot of the "season" is resolved but the overarching story pushes forward. If each of the 9 chapters was released a week, it wouldnt seem ridiculous at all. Its very, very TV show like. Years from now as this becomes more common you'll all come around.

I see how that doesn't apply to cod, but seriously, there is no rule that says anything that comes out faster than traditionally is necessarily bad. It's not like people would hate on cod any less if it came out every 2 years. It would be just as successful...possibly less successful even.

 

[Skel]

people are outraged because people on this forum hate seeing successful products/companies get more successful and make more money. then when anybody likes the product that those companies produce, they label them as sheep.

then they will blame that as the reason their niche genre no longer exists when the reality is that their niche genre is just that ... a niche, which unfortunately doesn't make much money which is the whole reason the video game industry exists. they want the industry to adapt to their needs, and if it doesn't they bitch and moan, instead of adapting to the industry.

EDIT:

oh and i have to comment on your analogy ... probably the failest thing i've ever seen you type, no offense ;.

Well said..

 

[AstroManLuca]

The main reason people don't like the COD games is because very little changes from one year to the next. It's like Madden, where the biggest change is updated rosters, and everything else is essentially the same. Sure, they'll tout a few new features here or there but it's only every several years that they actually make a major change. It seems silly to pay full price each year for a game that is 90% the same as last year's release.

On top of that, it's frustrating to see these games sell so incredibly well when the developer was so lazy and just copy-pasted most of the game from the previous installment. People tend to get frustrated when something they don't like is successful. I know a lot of people are "losing faith in humanity" due to the popularity of reality TV shows. Even if you never watch reality TV, just knowing that there are a ton of people who do watch it can bother you.

 

[purbeast0]

The main reason people don't like the COD games is because very little changes from one year to the next. It's like Madden, where the biggest change is updated rosters, and everything else is essentially the same. Sure, they'll tout a few new features here or there but it's only every several years that they actually make a major change. It seems silly to pay full price each year for a game that is 90% the same as last year's release.

On top of that, it's frustrating to see these games sell so incredibly well when the developer was so lazy and just copy-pasted most of the game from the previous installment. People tend to get frustrated when something they don't like is successful. I know a lot of people are "losing faith in humanity" due to the popularity of reality TV shows. Even if you never watch reality TV, just knowing that there are a ton of people who do watch it can bother you.

the people who cry about how little changes madden has year in and year out are typically the people who haven't played madden in years and have no concept of advanced play. same with COD, although the changes in those games are both very basic and then they have advanced ones as well, but a lot of people who aren't good at the game and don't take it serious will never experience.

it's also pretty petty and pathetic that one would get frustrated that they don't like is successful. there are PLENTY of things out there that i don't like or care for that are extremely successful. i'd think that is how the majority of humanity is as well. it's pretty easy to just not pay attention to what you don't like.

but then on the internet, people LOVE to tell everyone what they hate. that is just the culture of it, especially tech geeks like those of us on this forum. id say it pretty much just goes back to geeks/nerds never being popular or getting much attention, so the defensive thing to do in general is hate on things that are popular and get a lot of attention.

 

[BD2003]

So basically....haters gonna hate?

 

[purbeast0]

So basically....haters gonna hate?

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[DrunkenSano]

 

[Dankk]

quit giving us the same rehashed bullshit comments.

You don't seem to have a problem with the same rehashed bullshit games. Why would you have a problem with the same rehashed bullshit comments?

 

[Redshirt 24]

This argument can only end in a gunshot, you know.

So: I'm assuming, if the alternating-studio-release thing holds, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 or whatever it's called will be done by Treyarch. Is this a good or bad thing? (Yes, I'm completely CoD-impaired.)

 

[BD2003]

This argument can only end in a gunshot, you know.

So: I'm assuming, if the alternating-studio-release thing holds, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 or whatever it's called will be done by Treyarch. Is this a good or bad thing? (Yes, I'm completely CoD-impaired.)

Treyarch was originally considered the B team, but the A team (infinity ward) basically disintegrated. So treyarch is the veteran studio right now. Honestly, you won't find any consensus on which is better amongst fans. Blops was the best selling game ever, until MW3 was, so I'd say the competition between them is for the better.

 

[Goothry]

I'm disappointed with CoD because of its success, and fails to innovate, not beacuse it is a success. I want innovation, not improvment. No one can argue that they don't have the bank roll to handle that task anymore.

 

[BD2003]

I'd lay the fault with the rest of the industry there. As long as cod's multiplayer remains in a league of its own, there's no pressing need for them to innovate in any major way. It's kind of ridiculous that they've been dominant for so long.

 

[DrunkenSano]

I'd lay the fault with the rest of the industry there. As long as cod's multiplayer remains in a league of its own, there's no pressing need for them to innovate in any major way. It's kind of ridiculous that they've been dominant for so long.

I agree, they are basically going the route of 'Why fix it if it ain't broken?' and it works, they make crazy sales because it's still a fantastic game without much competition. Each edition they just fine tune some problems and make some changes due to popular and reasonable requests. MW3 had some pretty big changed that I was very pleased with and enjoy the game quite a bit.

 

[BD2003]

I agree, they are basically going the route of 'Why fix it if it ain't broken?' and it works, they make crazy sales because it's still a fantastic game without much competition. Each edition they just fine tune some problems and make some changes due to popular and reasonable requests. MW3 had some pretty big changed that I was very pleased with and enjoy the game quite a bit.

Yep. Not even that its not broken, but they still break records every year. If its so stale and decrepit a formula, it should be hemorrhaging fans every year, but the exact opposite is happening. Everyone else is literally still playing catch up for like the 5th year running now.

IMO innovation isn't really the competition's main problem anyway. There's plenty of neat ideas out there. What they're missing is the accessibility, the polish and the feel that cod hasn't compromised on since its inception. Honestly, if BF3 came out without mandatory installs or online passes, if it ran at 60 frames a second, if it wasn't so buggy, and if the interface got out of your way so you could get into a game with friends in under 60 seconds, it might be a real challenger. Instead it has an engine that is far too sophisticated for these consoles, and their ideas are way out in front of their ability to execute on them. EA/DICE doesn't get it....so we'll still be waiting on someone who does. Wouldn't be surprised if its the respawn guys....again.

 

[AstroManLuca]

*bracing for popular vs. good argument*

 

[Venom20]

I preorderred seventeen ....

 

[SandEagle]

COD4 single player was awesome. multiplayer even more so as it was my first venture into FPS.

MW2 and MW3 couldn't even get into the story. seemed to just drag on and on and on. multiplayer got old quick. same rehashed formula. oh well, i'll be getting this on launch day sadly.

 

[coldmeat]

It's really only asinine if you buy into it. You can always choose to just continue playing the current version.

I've been playing Black Ops lately and it's really hard to find other players. I can't even play half the game modes because there isn't a single lobby for me to join, it just kicks me out and says there are no available sessions.

 

[chalmers]

The company that makes these games I have no problem with, it's a business and they're doing what it takes to make money. The people that play these games on the other hand I enjoy poking fun at, especially the ones that think prestiging 4 times on COD on the 360 makes you an elite FPS player, I do find that funny.

I played the original modern warfare and it was alright, played a couple of the others now and again with friends or over someone's house...not my cup of tea. They can make 10 a year it wouldn't bother me, I'm busy playing much more entertaining games. Then again I usually use my 360/PS3 for single player games and my computer for competitive multiplayer.

Have fun playing the game as long as you know what you're playing is basically the America Online of this generation's shooters....huge and everyone plays it....doesn't make it the highest quality game in the least bit.