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chowderhead

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Originally posted by: Geekish Thoughts
Originally posted by: psteng19
Originally posted by: Geekish Thoughts

No fever and I don't have half of those symptoms. I really doubt I have that. It's kind of close, though.

He'd be dead by now if he had bacterial meningitis.

Floaters are specks in your vision, mostly apparently in a bright background (bright, white screen, blue sky, etc.).
They move around your vision as you move your eyeball.
If you have floaters AND flashes (in the dark), you could have retinal detachment, but from your description, that does not sound likely.
And regardless, it's not related to your main ailment.

I'd say they do that 1/4 of the time, and the other 3/4 they're white dots that flash. It just started doing it a few days ago, and it seems to be getting worse -- so it's scaring me. I called up a doc at my college and he says it may be because of the migraine.

Honestly, in all truthfullness, I just want to feel better again. Someone mentioned wisdom teeth. When I got my wisdom teeth taken out, the headache from that was a walk in the ballpark compared to what I'm feeling right now. It's terrible. As you can tell I've resorted to desperate measures.

Hopefully I can fight this off, but seeing the history of events, it doesn't look good. If for some reason whatever I have continues to get worse, I don't think I'm going to be dead tomorrow, but AT has been a great community. Tell your parents and loved ones how much you love them -- and by all means, get health insurance if you don't have any. Take a diet of moderation, whether my diet caused this to me or not, it's only healthy and that's my advice to everyone.

the flashing lights that you see are probably auras which usually precedes the migraine attacks
Migraines FAQs
 

GT1999

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Originally posted by: Gulzakar
The only indicator was a high WBC count. This can be for many reasons... Infections, cancer, HM's...

Sounds like your diet, well, sucks...have you considered that you do not eat properly?

High WBC count might be caused me stress...especially given that nothing else has been detected.

actually...have you had an HIV test?


My diet doesn't suck anymore -- for the past 2 1/2 months since I've had serious problems I've kept it healthy. Lots of water, rest.

Yes, I've had an HIV test, and it was negative. I haven't been in any situations involving risk with that anyway.

I just spoke with the doc here where I'm at now (the one giving up on me soon) and he says that whatever I have, it would have to be rare, given the basic bloodwork was all fine, minus the ER high WBC count. He says a thyroid problem is a common test and he will run that, along with some other heavy metal tests, but he suspects if I had lead poisoning that there would be other blood abnormalities in my other tests, so we're taking that one off.
 

bob4432

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first, i would see a neurologist because of the increased vision issues and pain problems. i was personally first diagnosed with migraines at age 10 (now 32) and have had "migraines" were i have lost 1/2 the vision in one eye, numbness in parts of my body, not knowing what day it is, not knowing who i am, not knowing what just happend. in fact i once went to the ER and they thought for sure i was having a stroke, but everything in their tests looked OK, so it was ruled as a "really weird" migraine.

migraine pain can be intense, i have personally broke both of the bones in my arm and was like, "sh!t, i broke my arm, need to go to ER" i didn't consider the pain bad, in fact i would take a broken arm over a servere migraine that lasted 1 week any day.

also, no offense, but you girlfriends advice is selfish and f*cked up, and who cares what other think.

tension headaches usually start at the bottom of the neck/upper back area and are known to trigger migraines, this happens to me almost daily.

taking medications like ibuprofen and haveing good results leads me to think you are in the early stages which is good, but they are just masking your pain and you need to find the root of the problem.

if drs have given up on you then see another dr, f*ck him/her, you are still not well.

you say in the beginning about your pain tolerance, but pain is relative to what you have experienced, so regardless of what you can or can not tolerate the pain is now worse than what you have experienced so there is reason for alarm, in fact that is what pain is an alarm teling you something is wrong.

i hate to sound like a bummer but it might take some time to find the correct dr, but don't give up, you will find the one. it has taken me years to find a dr that knew his sh!t, and yes i have done tons of meds and all you get is a tolerance them, hell now i am taking about 400+month but we finally found the problem and are beginning to fix it.

also, taking a mild anxiety medication like xanax can work wonders since even though you say you are not stressed, you may not be with your current life in the terms of job, school, girlfriend but you are definately stressed about your condition, which you should be.
 

Mark R

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Lots of interesting discussion, but what the OP really needs to do is see a neurologist. Neurologists deal with headache on a frequent basis, and many run specialist headache clinics and have access to specialist tests. If you are getting very frequent severe symptoms, then you should ask your family doctor for a referral.

Migraine can be very nasty, but it's worth persevering with treatements and there are quite a number of choices. But again, if over-the-counter medications aren't satisfactory, then a prescription medication may be appropriate - but you need specialist advice.

How likely is it that he has mercury poisoning without industrial exposure? It's very rare even after dental work (with the exception of work to remove mercury almagam fillings).

 

Gulzakar

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it's not the exposure, we are exposed to heavy metals everyday...it's the quantity and absorption that are the problem...a little mercury won't kill you...but over a period of time and constant exposure...
 

GT1999

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Thanks for the positive advice, guys. I sincerely appreciate it.

Originally posted by: Mark R
Lots of interesting discussion, but what the OP really needs to do is see a neurologist. Neurologists deal with headache on a frequent basis, and many run specialist headache clinics and have access to specialist tests. If you are getting very frequent severe symptoms, then you should ask your family doctor for a referral.

Migraine can be very nasty, but it's worth persevering with treatements and there are quite a number of choices. But again, if over-the-counter medications aren't satisfactory, then a prescription medication may be appropriate - but you need specialist advice.

How likely is it that he has mercury poisoning without industrial exposure? It's very rare even after dental work (with the exception of work to remove mercury almagam fillings).

I agree. I actually have an appointment with a neurologist here in St. Louis, but the earliest they could get me in is JULY! I'll be back in my hometown then. I have an appointment with a new doctor next Monday, so hopefully they can get me into a neurologist faster than that here, and then I'm going to see if my current doctor in my hometown can get me one there as well.

Good news. I spoke to an insurance counselor through my aunt and she said that my current insurance provider is likely to cover everything since they have a "stance" on the matter, but I should not switch to a new carrier as they likely will not as they have my medical records. If for some reason this all doesn't work out, I can apply for a state program which she's going to work with me on.

I have an appointment with a psychiatrist tonight after work per my dad, and I'm debating on going to it or not since my dad says he'll pay for it. But, I'm not crazy, and I don't want to look like someone who's crazy, so I'm debating if I should go or not. My girlfriend says she'd break up with me if I go, and honestly, I don't think it's going to resolve any issues other than him trying to push some antidepressant on me (which, by the way, I'm not depressed, and my anxiety problem has literally dwindled away).

Basically, I need to hang in there until I can see a neurologist.



 

psteng19

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Do you smoke?

Check for Lung Cancer.

I was thinking the same thing which is why I asked he smoked or not, but I did not want to be the one to bring it up.
Cancers can be very hard to detect.
Signs of cancer include high WBC count, fatigue and pain.

OP, YGPM.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: Geekish Thoughts
Thanks for the positive advice, guys. I sincerely appreciate it.

Originally posted by: Mark R
Lots of interesting discussion, but what the OP really needs to do is see a neurologist. Neurologists deal with headache on a frequent basis, and many run specialist headache clinics and have access to specialist tests. If you are getting very frequent severe symptoms, then you should ask your family doctor for a referral.

Migraine can be very nasty, but it's worth persevering with treatements and there are quite a number of choices. But again, if over-the-counter medications aren't satisfactory, then a prescription medication may be appropriate - but you need specialist advice.

How likely is it that he has mercury poisoning without industrial exposure? It's very rare even after dental work (with the exception of work to remove mercury almagam fillings).

I agree. I actually have an appointment with a neurologist here in St. Louis, but the earliest they could get me in is JULY! I'll be back in my hometown then. I have an appointment with a new doctor next Monday, so hopefully they can get me into a neurologist faster than that here, and then I'm going to see if my current doctor in my hometown can get me one there as well.

Good news. I spoke to an insurance counselor through my aunt and she said that my current insurance provider is likely to cover everything since they have a "stance" on the matter, but I should not switch to a new carrier as they likely will not as they have my medical records. If for some reason this all doesn't work out, I can apply for a state program which she's going to work with me on.

I have an appointment with a psychiatrist tonight after work per my dad, and I'm debating on going to it or not since my dad says he'll pay for it. But, I'm not crazy, and I don't want to look like someone who's crazy, so I'm debating if I should go or not. My girlfriend says she'd break up with me if I go, and honestly, I don't think it's going to resolve any issues other than him trying to push some antidepressant on me (which, by the way, I'm not depressed, and my anxiety problem has literally dwindled away).

Basically, I need to hang in there until I can see a neurologist.


no offense, but i would tell your girlfriend to go f*ck herself, it sould like you would be better of without her, there are more fish in the sea. don't go see a psycharitrist, see a psychologist, a counselor not a pill pusher. besides, can you really describe "crazy", that is just bunch of horsesh!t, our minds and emotions need doctors just like our bodies
 

p0ntif

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Absolutely see a doctor. Neurologist for sure. Neuro-opthalmologists exist because so many neurological disorders can be detected from the eyes.
 

GT1999

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Update:

I have an appointment with a neurologist today at lunch, however, it asks for the referring doctor's name and phone # on a form. Well, my referring doctor basically "fired" me, so I can't put him down, and my hometown doctor also talked to this doctor who fired me, so I can't really put him down, either.

I'm not sure if I should find a new general doctor today, or if I should just go to this neurologist and put down that I don't have a real doctor yet.

My girlfriend thinks I should see a regular doctor first, then see this neurologist.

Also, my insurance may be doing a "review" on me they said, and if they pull my medical records, or ask for my permission to, I don't think I have a choice but to tell the truth, which means they'll consider all of this pre-existing and I'm going to be in a lot of debt. :(
 

Rookie

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Debt can be paid off... again Geek, this girlfriend DOESN'T know what's best for you and really can start to hamper things. While she may BE a comfort, I think you would do a lot better thinking for yourself. I don't say this in ill-will either.

Most insurance require a referral to be covered. Did you schedule this appt with the neurologist?
 

GT1999

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Originally posted by: Rookie
Debt can be paid off... again Geek, this girlfriend DOESN'T know what's best for you and really can start to hamper things. While she may BE a comfort, I think you would do a lot better thinking for yourself. I don't say this in ill-will either.

Most insurance require a referral to be covered. Did you schedule this appt with the neurologist?

Yeah, and apparently my insurance doesn't require referrals under my plan (I called them).

Unfortunately once they do a review on me, they'll uncover everything.

What I need to decide is whether or not I should go into their neurologist today or not. My appointment is in 2 hours, and I'm not sure what to put down for a referring doctor. I have a regular doctor's appointment tomorrow, but I probably won't be able to get into this neurologist again for a while. If I go in, and bring paperwork from my previous doctor, he'll probably contact him, which I'd like to avoid, but at the same time, I don't want to have to repeat all of these tests.
 

bob4432

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personally i would see the neurologist, and like other said debt can be paid off in a worse case scenario. also, like i have said and others too, your girlfriend doesn't seem to have your best interests in mind. a neurologist is a highly specialized doctor that will have a much better chance at putting your problems together and coming up with the solutions.

and to the dr who "fired" you, it just shows what he doesn't know, f*ck him, i have seen about 10 drs in the past 6yrs for my a problem i have and it wasn't until i visited a neurologist did he come up with a conclusion, the other doctors from general practiontioner, rheumatologist, pain management, sports medicine, physiastrist, orthopedic surgeon didn't have a clue what was wrong with me and one even stated that my ailment could be considered "malingering", which means - To feign illness or other incapacity in order to avoid duty or work, and this was a doctor that was on my side, it turned out i have this, and other related problems that are usually combined with this ailment, although not as bad as the pic, but if i would not have seen a neurologist, i would still be chasing a "ghost" that other doctors doubted i had.
 

GT1999

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I'm sorry to hear that you have that. :( Geez. I don't even want to talk about my problems anymore now.. :(

I have no doubt the neurologist will have a better grasp on finding out what's wrong, I'm just forseeing that he will contact the doctor I put down for a referral -- and will then gain the same opinion -- that this is "all in my head".
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: Geekish Thoughts
I'm sorry to hear that you have that. :( Geez. I don't even want to talk about my problems anymore now.. :(

I have no doubt the neurologist will have a better grasp on finding out what's wrong, I'm just forseeing that he will contact the doctor I put down for a referral -- and will then gain the same opinion -- that this is "all in my head".

no probs, and definately talk about your problems. the point i am trying to make is that if somebody had told me in the beginning to see a neurologist, i woud not have had to suffer for ~4 years before somebody knew what they were doing instead of putting me on all kinds of meds, some that landed me in the hospital.

who cares what that old piece of sh!t doctor has to say, if he talks sh!t contact your local medical board, they do not put up with that type of behavior.

and if it is "in your head" (which i doubt) you are still having problems that you are feeling phsyically, so maybe a visit with a psychologist wouldn't hurt either. i see one usually 2-4x a month to help deal with the stress/anxiety and depression of being in constant pain for most of my waking time. remember we see with our brains, hear with our brains and feel pain with our brains...

there is a bright side in the fact that i was successfully diangosed and i know what to deal with and how to fix it. due to my condition i will need to go out on a disability retirement, but my neurologist says that there is a possiblity in maybe 5 years of continued treatment i will be better. this ailment has really derailed my life, but i am getting back on track and will be going back to school, not for cs which i wanted and was doing 5 years ago, but school nonetheless.
 

tami

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go see the neurologist. as for the referring doctor, put the guy down who "fired" you, as it really doesn't impact anything -- it shouldn't, at least. if insurance doesn't cover it unless you have a referral, you have to do it. otherwise, just leave it blank. i've done that numerous times.
 

Rookie

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if you don't need a referral... then don't put one down.

Finding a good doctor, like anything, usually takes work. If you don't like the doc, find another, repeat as necessary.

You said your insurance doesn't require a referral, so leave that blank.
 

J0hnny

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This feels like an episode of HOUSE on FOX!

Think guys think!

I had a friend who had the same exact problems. Turns out all of it was psychosomatic as I had originally suspected and told him about. To this day he hates me for telling him that at the time because he felt degraded.

Could you have Encephalitis? from a mosquito?

EDIT

What if it's lyme disease?!?!
 

isasir

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:thumbsup: for a very helpful thread that appears absent of any smartass remarks. I don't have anything to add to help you, but I hope you find out what's wrong and can get it fixed.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: J0hnny
This feels like an episode of HOUSE on FOX!

Think guys think!

I had a friend who had the same exact problems. Turns out all of it was psychosomatic as I had originally suspected and told him about. To this day he hates me for telling him that at the time because he felt degraded.

Could you have Encephalitis? from a mosquito?

EDIT

What if it's lyme disease?!?!

even if it is psychosomatic, there is still and underlying problem
 

Patt

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Don't be listening to any more of your girlfriend's advice ... go to the doctor, money is money, but your life could be in danger. At the very least your quality of life is most definitely in danger.

Oh, and if my SO ever told me she'd drop me because I was going to a psychiatrist, she'd be tossed out the door so fast a cheetah couldn't catch her.