i work in a magnolia home theater. i have a hitachi directors series, panasonic 600u and a pioneer elite right next to each other and the panasonic looks like dog crap. i would even say the new philips plasmas look better
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That's funny .... most videophiles rave about Panny in regard sto bang/buck. And when it comes to plasmas, half are eliminated due to horrndous sound quality. Not everyone uses them with home theaters after all. And Panny does have good sound.
EDIT: Not sure .... about the Hitachi, but a Panny vs Pioneer Elite comparison is not even fair.
We've had our 600U 58" in Magnolia calibrated, and it looks better then the 55" Hitachi, but not as good as the 50" Elite. It's close, though. The Elite is significantly better then both, but the Panasonic and Hitachi looks very similar. For the price, I'd go with the Hitachi.
Its probably one of the best plasmas you can buy for the money.
Amazon has it also for $2109 with free shipping and possibly no tax depending on where you live.
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TH-50PX...-7262602-2922449?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
Picked up the 50" 60U for $1699 a few weeks ago and think it's great. I had a 60" SXRD that died on me and the picture on the Panny is much better. Rear projection (DLP or LCoS) just doesn't compare to plasma. Currently hooked up to my HTPC -- DVDs upscaled with FFDshow & HD are amazing.
If you have a Frys near you, get Circuit City or Best Buy to pricematch and then sign up for one of the HD (directv or comcast) to get another $200 - $400 off.
If you have a Frys near you, get Circuit City or Best Buy to pricematch and then sign up for one of the HD (directv or comcast) to get another $200 - $400 off.
Indeed, that is funny stuff. However, it's not surprising. Stores like Magnolia provide such non-ideal viewing environments that brightness is practically the only thing that matters.
actually, moron, if you have ever been to a magnolia home theater or audio/video store, the lighting is very close to what your house lighting is. the regular part of a best buy or circuit city maybe, but not magnolia, that is one of the main selling points of the brand!
You've got to be kidding me. You're calling this guy a moron? You're the one comparing an Elite to a Panasonic, and stating the Panasonic plasmas have a "horredus" picture which is complete bullsh!t. Why don't you properly calibrate that set and give it a good source before making a moronic statement like that? And if you say you did all that already and still say it has a "horredus" picture, you're either lying, retarded or you don't know what horrendous means. We obviously know you can't spell it.
Why am I not surprised you work for Best Buy? Why don't you tell us the margins on these particular TV's? Price vs cost?
I highly doubt the Panasonic looks like crap compared to the Pioneer. Perhaps you weren't using those fancy Monster cables on the Panny that Best Buy pushes
Here's some reviews of the Panasonic models:
Cnet Review 42" Panasonic
50" Panasonic Review
And the Pioneer:
50" Pioneer
At a cost of $3500 for the Pioneer, it should have better picture quality than the Panasonic. But it isn't worth another $1500+ for that small amount of PQ.
What lux is the ambient light and what color are the walls in your store?
What color is the bias lighting and where is it located?
Post your calibration settings.
apparently everyone here has a panasonic. and what does it matter what cost vs. retail is. if you dont like the price, ask for a lower one or buy somewhere else. both sets have been calibrated to isf standards by our elite services specialist. idc what the ambient light crap and wall bs is. they both are on a fair compairson. even an uncalibrated philips 50" (the new model, 731??) looks better than the panny. skin tones look like someone walked out of a mortuary and everyone and everything is posterized.
I'm going to have to either call shens or say that your store model isn't calibrated properly. If you calibrate one input that doesn't stick to the rest of them with the Panasonic. When I first bought mine the TV was set to Vivid and faces looked like cartoons / clay. After the right settings were entered for each individual input it was like looking through a window.
Chances are whoever calibrated the display adjusted it for one input and then didn't adjust the other ones. There's a reason reviews from Consumer Reports to Cnet rate the picture as one of the best / most realistic.
If this is referring to my comments, I was implying that your store pushes whatever provides a better margin. BTW, I don't own a Panasonic.
i push the best product i can sell a customer because most of the time that is what they want. im not trying to impose and say you dont have money, because i dont know you at all and i dont know if you are filthy rich or dirt poor (why do both connotate uncleanliness lol), but the people that shop in Magnolia have money to burn and want the best stuff, period. at that point selling pioneer elite over panasonic makes sense.
No one is arguing that a Pioneer has a better picture than a Panasonic. It's the best and you pay for the best. What people have a problem with is you stating that a philips has a better picture than a Panasonic. I've seen Philips plasmas and they are never in the same league as Panasonic plasmas.
I'm contending that your stores often push items solely based on the margin. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with that necessarily, just that it is done. How else could you push a philips over a Panasonic?
This Panny model was the exact same one I was looking at to purchase for my parents this last Xmas. But upon comparision to the Samsung one, I changed my mind and went with the Samsung. I thought the IQ of the Samsung was slightly superior. Of course, this is purely subjective. Both the Panny and Samsung were equivalent in price and feature. The Pioneer Elite, though, was a step above both but you'd have to pay a premium for.
Panasonic is the BB4TB and once you get it home update the firmware to the latest and greatest. It now has 2 updates.
well to be honest with you i though philips products were SH*T until we were sent away to training for magnolia home theater. during the philips "class" he had a 42px600u totally updated and stock settings next to his newest philips (dont remember the model) at stock and the philips was clearly better. he also had his 42" lcd next to an xbr2 and both were at stock settings and all 4 tvs were getting same feed and his 42" looked better as well. everyone at the class grilled the ish out of him to make sure he wasnt cheating, sure enough he wasnt. i am not talking out of my azz.
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