HDCP DRM finally really cracked wide open

[PokerGuy]

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/hdcp-master-key-supposedly-released-unlocks-hdtv-copy-protect/

Well, if this is true (I haven't seen confirmation from a real reputable site), then the folly of DRM has once again been revealed and the whole HDCP protection ripoff is toast. The "master key" would pretty much allow creation of device encryption/decryption keys, allowing for perfect duplication of any such protected media. :thumbsup:

Edit: I searched for HDCP, hack, crack, key, drm and couldn't find a post, hopefully not a repost.

 

[Dirigible]

The previous post was deceptive, so you get a pass.

 

[keird]

Yeah. You had to search for the thread "Cheaper Strippers?"

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2105637

 

[KeithTalent]

Why is this a good thing? If it stops day and date releases I'll be pissed.

KT

 

[PokerGuy]

Why is this a good thing? If it stops day and date releases I'll be pissed.

KT

This is a good thing because I will soon be able to buy a cheap device to allow me to use my perfectly fine 1080p tv with component only inputs. There's no conceivable reason why I should have to get rid of my perfectly fine TV just because the idiots want to force more DRM onto me.

It's also good because I'm sure it will lead to lots of new innovation and capture devices that will let you capture high def content and store it, right now you are limited to low def only with most consumer level hardware.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yeah. You had to search for the thread "Cheaper Strippers?"

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2105637

Ok, can't say that I ever would have found that one

 

[Key West]

What is HDCP... is it what I've always wanted? CP in HD?

 

[Ken g6]

What is HDCP

High Definition Copy Protection.

:thumbsdown: Down with the makers of CP!

 

[Cogman]

Good news indeed. The Music and Video industry should be focusing more on putting out good stuff rather than attacking those who pirate their garbage. Or worse, try to use their garbage in an "unauthorized" fashion.

 

[amdhunter]

YaY! Now I can get some perfect HD Rips of movies illegally.
All these 1080p rips I had before look horrible.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Awesome.

I can get my CP in HD now, woo! Time to hit the interwebs.

 

[KeithTalent]

Good news indeed. The Music and Video industry should be focusing more on putting out good stuff rather than attacking those who pirate their garbage. Or worse, try to use their garbage in an "unauthorized" fashion.

There is a lot of good stuff out there. If you don't like something, then don't pay for it, it does not give you the right to steal it.

KT

 

[zinfamous]

The previous post was deceptive, so you get a pass.

this

 

[MotF Bane]

The battle between copiers and DRM is much like the battle between warheads and armor. And we all know how that one turns out.

 

[Cogman]

There is a lot of good stuff out there. If you don't like something, then don't pay for it, it does not give you the right to steal it.

KT

Never said it gives you the right to steal. Just that their pursuit in punishing the thieves is a waste or resources.

 

[spidey07]

Another article said Intel said they did indeed have a security breech. So somebody took the key physically or somehow got a copy.

Looks like the code and key are already in the wild.

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/09/15/5115347-hd-anti-piracy-code-crack-leaked-online

 

[darkswordsman17]

There is a lot of good stuff out there. If you don't like something, then don't pay for it, it does not give you the right to steal it.

KT

Way to jump to the same ridiculous conclusions as the MPAA.

Maybe people don't want to sit through 5 minutes of garbage before they can just play the movie? Maybe they don't like having to watch a warning about stealing a movie they legitimately bought? What about the people that got screwed over with early Blu-Ray players that can't update to the newest DRM? What about the people that just want to play a movie on their PC, but because of DRM they won't be able to play back the movie they legitimately bought? What about the people that don't trust DRM after the rootkit fiascoes from a few years back?

 

[NoCreativity]

never said it gives you the right to steal. Just that their pursuit in punishing the consumer is a waste or resources.

ffy

 

[Cogman]

ffy

Yes I agree. DRM unfairly punishes the consumers with the introduction of DRM. When I originally posted I was thinking of the huge amount of money they have invested to take down P2P (impossible).

 

[KeithTalent]

Never said it gives you the right to steal. Just that their pursuit in punishing the thieves is a waste or resources.

Well they definitely seem to have no clue what they are doing. Always seem to be behind the times and playing catch up.

I've never really run into any issues with DRM on anything, so I don't always understand the railing against it.

KT

 

[PieIsAwesome]

 

[KeithTalent]

Way to jump to the same ridiculous conclusions as the MPAA.

Maybe people don't want to sit through 5 minutes of garbage before they can just play the movie? Maybe they don't like having to watch a warning about stealing a movie they legitimately bought? What about the people that got screwed over with early Blu-Ray players that can't update to the newest DRM? What about the people that just want to play a movie on their PC, but because of DRM they won't be able to play back the movie they legitimately bought? What about the people that don't trust DRM after the rootkit fiascoes from a few years back?

What about the people that put everything they have into making their art only to have it taken with out compensation? Sure, there are times it is not handled well, but I can't say I blame them for attempting to protect their stuff.

The argument of "make better stuff and I will pay for it" is what I find ridiculous.

KT

 

[NoCreativity]

The battle between copiers and DRM is much like the battle between warheads and armor. And we all know how that one turns out.

That is an awesome and very fitting anology.

 

[apac]

What about the people that put everything they have into making their art only to have it taken with out compensation? Sure, there are times it is not handled well, but I can't say I blame them for attempting to protect their stuff.

The argument of "make better stuff and I will pay for it" is what I find ridiculous.

KT

Make stuff cheaper and I'll pay for it. I'll be damned if I'm going to spend $20 on a DVD or $15 on a music CD. I support the movies I like by seeing them in theaters. I support the music artists I like by buying concert tickets and t-shirts.

edit: I'll mention that these days I watch all my movies and TV series with netflix, and all my music with Pandora. The entertainment business better get with the times - people don't need to pirate to get what they want, cheaply.

 

[Kadarin]

There is a lot of good stuff out there. If you don't like something, then don't pay for it, it does not give you the right to steal it.

KT

I agree!

However, given that I'm perfectly willing to pay for content, I want to be able to view it on any device I own or have access to, and not just "approved" devices. I also want to be able to make copies for personal use (i.e. load into XBMC, etc.)