hd5830 is still comming ..About 3 weeks

[happy medium]

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17612/65/

End of Feb. launch?
Looks to be initially 55$ less then the 5850 in Europe.
That puts it around 225/230$ here.
Lets hope thats just the launch price and they drop fast.

I'll bite at 225$ if it's faster then the 4890.

Thinking of crossfiring these for 450$.
Should smack around a gtx295 and come close to a 5890, mabe beating it when overclocked.

 

[MarcVenice]

It's still coming. Personaly I expect full retail availability AFTER chinese new year. And then I mean, they won't be leaving China before that.

Can't comment on specs, although they look reasonable, I haven't been given any yet.

 

[happy medium]

It's still coming. Personaly I expect full retail availability AFTER chinese new year. And then I mean, they won't be leaving China before that.

Can't comment on specs, although they look reasonable, I haven't been given any yet.

So I take it review samples haven't even been given out? Crap.:\

 

[TurtleCrusher]

1280 sp's? If I upgrade to it, I'm just doubling up each time!

320sp (3850) > 640sp (4830) > 1280sp (5830)

 

[bunnyfubbles]

the 5830 would have to be barely faster than the 5770 not to be able to beat (when crossfired) a potential 5890

My guess is 1280SP @ 600-675MHz, maybe 1120SP @ 725+MHz. The rumors suggest its cooler/design is pretty much the same as the 5850

 

[Daedalus685]

the 5830 would have to be barely faster than the 5770 not to be able to beat (when crossfired) a potential 5890

My guess is 1280SP @ 600-675MHz, maybe 1120SP @ 725+MHz. The rumors suggest its cooler/design is pretty much the same as the 5850

Why would it not be able to beat a 5890 when cross fired?

The 4770 in crossfire was pretty much equal to a 4890, the 4830 CF won without issue.

 

[Qbah]

What is a HD5890? There's not even a hint of leak about this card and suddenly so many people know how fast it will be and what other not announced products will beat it? wow...

As for this card, why would it drop below MSRP, if it starts at $215? There's nothing from nVidia that can rival it at this price. It will most likely handily beat a GTX275 and HD4890, so why would it drop under $200? There's no business reason for it and the card will sell anyway. Just because people want it to drop to under $200? heh

 

[exar333]

Why would it not be able to beat a 5890 when cross fired?
The 4770 in crossfire was pretty much equal to a 4890, the 4830 CF won without issue.

Edit: Mis-read this...

 

[lavaheadache]

Huh? How would 2 slower GPUs CF'd beat 2 faster GPUs CF'd? Does not compute.

5890>>>>5830CF

/discussion

He clearly meant that the 5830 crossfired would beat a 5890. Not that either card exists yet. I just wanted to clarify an already clear statement

 

[nyker96]

first anyone know how much is €215 in dollar?

from the spec it seems it's slightly crippled compare to 5850 but not too bad. see how the benchmarks say when it comes out. amd is really on top of releasing dx11 cards this 2 months I've seen like 4 new cards released in last 60 days. they've got every market segment covered now with dx11 parts.

 

[happy medium]

215 (Europe)= 294$ U.S. and the 5850 is 250 Europe which is 345$ U.S.
Exspensive there!

 

[Qbah]

215 (Europe)= 294$ U.S. and the 5850 is 250 Europe which is 345$ U.S.
Exspensive there!

It's called euros (1 euro, 2 euros etc) Not "Europe"...

And why are you comparing it like that? 200€ is pretty much "worth" the same as $200, when looking at Denmark or Germany or France. Though that very much depends on the country. You can buy different amounts of regular items for the same 100€ in different countries, it all depends on the particular country's economy. Not to mention in the weaker economy countries the card won't cost 215€... otherwise it would be extremely expensive.

Let's say a good income is 200€ a day here (5 business-day week), before tax. In another country it's 50€. But you can buy the same amount of most goods at the respective places for those two amounts.

EDIT: As for how much $ is €... http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&r...+euro+to+usd&btnG=S%C3%B8g&meta=&aq=f&oq=

 

[PingviN]

It's expensive in Europe because we have VAT of about 20-25%. I'm not saying every country in Europe does, but most of them.

 

[Tab]

Interesting card, lets compare it to the 5850.

5850 / 5830

Price $~280 / $~2009(est.) In USD

GPU 725mhz / 750mhz

Shaders 1280 / 1440

Yea, that is somewhat strange looking at the numbers side by side. I don't why anyone would want to purchase a 5850 over a 5830 given that prices stay the same. I do wonder what will happen to the prices of cards like the GTX 260 will end up at once this is released. Hopefully, they'll hit $100 or below.

 

[happy medium]

It's called euros (1 euro, 2 euros etc) Not "Europe"...

And why are you comparing it like that? 200€ is pretty much "worth" the same as $200, when looking at Denmark or Germany or France. Though that very much depends on the country. You can buy different amounts of regular items for the same 100€ in different countries, it all depends on the particular country's economy. Not to mention in the weaker economy countries the card won't cost 215€... otherwise it would be extremely expensive.

Let's say a good income is 200€ a day here (5 business-day week), before tax. In another country it's 50€. But you can buy the same amount of most goods at the respective places for those two amounts.

EDIT: As for how much $ is €... http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&rlz=1C1GGLS_daDK361DK362&q=215+euro+to+usd&btnG=Søg&meta=&aq=f&oq=

Well in my original post I was off buy a dollar! Thanks for the lesson.

My point was comparing the prices that leaked, it should be about 225/230$ when they launch in the U.S. going by pices over there.

Back on topic.....


I think they are delaying the launch to take some steam out of the Nvidia launch.

 

[happy medium]

Interesting card, lets compare it to the 5850.

5850 / 5830

Price $~280 / $~2009(est.) In USD

GPU 725mhz / 750mhz

Shaders 1280 / 1440

Yea, that is somewhat strange looking at the numbers side by side. I don't why anyone would want to purchase a 5850 over a 5830 given that prices stay the same. I do wonder what will happen to the prices of cards like the GTX 260 will end up at once this is released. Hopefully, they'll hit $100 or below.

5850 / 5830

Price ~ 280$ / ~ 225$
gPU 725 / 750
sHADERS 1440 / 1280 (YOU HAD THIS BACKWARDS)
memory both 1000 gddr5
Texture units 72 for the 5850 / 60 for the 5830

15/20% slower is a good guess, for 50$ less money

With this release there still is a good gap between a 5770 and 5830.
I think we will see a 5790 in the future.

 

[Qbah]

Well in my original post I was off buy a dollar! Thanks for the lesson.

My point was comparing the prices that leaked, it should be about 225/230$ when they launch in the U.S. going by pices over there.

Back on topic.....


I think they are delaying the launch to take some steam out of the Nvidia launch.

Someone else asked about the relation Not you. I should have been more precise in the answer.

And the delay could be also for this reason, I agree. However, I think the cards aren't out as there's no reason for them to be available now. One can still buy a HD4890 for performance between a HD5770 and HD5850. I find is a bad idea, but a lot of people don't. And since those cards are still selling and are in stock, why would AMD try to compete with itself?

 

[happy medium]

Someone else asked about the relation Not you. I should have been more precise in the answer.

And the delay could be also for this reason, I agree. However, I think the cards aren't out as there's no reason for them to be available now. One can still buy a HD4890 for performance between a HD5770 and HD5850. I find is a bad idea, but a lot of people don't. And since those cards are still selling and are in stock, why would AMD try to compete with itself?

Yea your right.
Please everyone stop buying the 4890 so we can get ahold of this card sooner.

I don't know why people keep buying them.
Some argue that the 5770 is to slow for a full direct x 11 game.
But if they keep buying the 4890 we will never see it replaced by the 5830.

The 4890 was a great card at 160$ but it's old news now. Let it die people.
The price is up over 180$ now Jeeeez.

Edit: Don't mind me (rant),I just want the final upgrade for this system (crossfire) and be done with it untill I do a full system upgrade the end of next year.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

nice card! wheres the nvidia competition to this in DX11?

 

[RaistlinZ]

5850 / 5830

Price ~ 280$ / ~ 225$
gPU 725 / 750
sHADERS 1440 / 1280 (YOU HAD THIS BACKWARDS)
memory both 1000 gddr5
Texture units 72 for the 5850 / 60 for the 5830

15/20% slower is a good guess, for 50$ less money

With this release there still is a good gap between a 5770 and 5830.
I think we will see a 5790 in the future.

My fear is this card will be vastly overpriced like all the other 5800 series. People have been holding off for months and there is a huge pent up demand right now. If 5850 prices remain at $280-$290 I don't see why E-tailers wouldn't jack up the price of the 5830 to ast least $250.00 or more.

Which still leaves a huge price gap between it and the 5770. And considering how well the 5770 overclocks the 5830 at stock speeds had better be a substantial performance upgrade from the 5770.

 

[BAMAVOO]

I am at 1680x1050 and have a 5770 now overclocked to 960/1400 and am interested to see if this 5830 should be the single card to get for my res or if adding another 5770 would make more sense later on. The 5770 is doing all I need it to and more for L4D2, TF2, and Unreal 3.

 

[happy medium]

I am at 1680x1050 and have a 5770 now overclocked to 960/1400 and am interested to see if this 5830 should be the single card to get for my res or if adding another 5770 would make more sense later on. The 5770 is doing all I need it to and more for L4D2, TF2, and Unreal 3.

I'm kinda in the same boat @ 1600x1200.
I had 2 5750 in crossfire but I want 1 card to get me through this year so I sold 1 of them (for more then I paid for it)and I plan on buying this card and adding another when prices drop before Christmas. 2 of these should outlast my entire computers life span.

I hope.

Who knows I might go with one fast Nvidia card and forget about crossfire if the price is right. I have a crossfire only board though.

 

[happy medium]

nice card! wheres the nvidia competition to this in DX11?

I believe the gtx 460 is due in April.>?
The gtx 480 and 470 are due in March.

 

[lavaheadache]

My fear is this card will be vastly overpriced like all the other 5800 series. People have been holding off for months and there is a huge pent up demand right now. If 5850 prices remain at $280-$290 I don't see why E-tailers wouldn't jack up the price of the 5830 to ast least $250.00 or more.

Which still leaves a huge price gap between it and the 5770. And considering how well the 5770 overclocks the 5830 at stock speeds had better be a substantial performance upgrade from the 5770.

I grow tired of hearing how overpriced the 5800 series is. It is far from true. Show me the competition. Show me the price of the competition. Show me past years price for the top performer.

Truth is, there is no competion, the price of the competion that does exist is on par with the price of the leader. As far as past year pricing is concerned, every year for the past 5 or so years the highest end cards were at least $600 for a single gpu. Show me the $600 5870.

Yeah, the 5970 is in the $600+ range but that is also inline with the previous years highend dual GPU.

It's one thing to say that $400 is a lot of money. It's another thing to say that it's too much money.

 

[happy medium]

I grow tired of hearing how overpriced the 5800 series is. It is far from true. Show me the competition. Show me the price of the competition. Show me past years price for the top performer.

Truth is, there is no competion, the price of the competion that does exist is on par with the price of the leader. As far as past year pricing is concerned, every year for the past 5 or so years the highest end cards were at least $600 for a single gpu. Show me the $600 5870.

Yeah, the 5970 is in the $600+ range but that is also inline with the previous years highend dual GPU.

It's one thing to say that $400 is a lot of money. It's another thing to say that it's too much money.

We will see how much they should have been when they get some competition from Nvidia and there price drops. Unless they sell at a loss.
Just like last round, Nvidia had the faster cards and charged a premium for it.
Ati launched with cheap prices and prices dropped accross the board with the gtx series.

Heres to cheap 250$ 5850's.:awe: