Having fun w/cop: Fail all field sobriety tests on purpose

[disappoint]

And he is still going to take a trip to the hospital.

Unlawfully. There is nothing wrong with him.

Oh yes there is. Anyone that would mess with cops for fun needs a psych. eval. cause he's cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

 

[Born2bwire]

That's all he does, surely everyone knows this.

You'll have to excuse him. Happypuppy's a bit slow and curmudgeonly.

 

[GregGreen]

There is so much I want to say here but I know there is no use arguing with either side of this "debate"

 

[Bateluer]

So whats the worse that can happen? (JLee?)

Uh, you take a ride downtown, they take a blood sample for any other 'controlled' substances, and you spend a night in jail?

 

[grrl]

There is so much I want to say here but I know there is no use arguing with either side of this "debate"

There really is no solution except for TFP or JEDI to actually go out and do it, then report back.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Uh, you take a ride downtown, they take a blood sample for any other 'controlled' substances, and you spend a night in jail?

Or, if you piss the cop of badly enough, to be 'recognized' as terrorist and be kept locked up a few days until he gets bored?

 

[Murloc]

the alcohol gradation of your blood doesn't matter if you were unable to drive because of alcohol (you told the police about the beers, they will take it as the truth).
They will take you to the laboratory and take your blood.

 

[JEDI]

the alcohol gradation of your blood doesn't matter if you were unable to drive because of alcohol (you told the police about the beers, they will take it as the truth).
They will take you to the laboratory and take your blood.

ahh...

what if you then mention the beer was Odules? (non-alcohholic)

 

[BUTCH1]

It's not "screwing with the police" if you are proving how ridiculous they and their standards are.

It's a cop's job to get your ass off the road if you look like your toasted, how is that a "ridiculous" standard?. What if someone really WAS that f-'ed up and ran through a red light and T-boned your ass? you would be crying about how the cops suck at their job in a heartbeat..

 

[RadiclDreamer]

So there should be no sobriety tests and just a breathalyzer by your reasoning? What about those folks who can't hold their alcohol? Should the 100lbs woman who can barely walk after two beers be allowed to drive because she only blows a .04? Would that make you feel better when she crashes and kills your wife and child?

It's not a perfect system, no one ever claimed it to be. If you have a better method we are all ears. I completely agree that some people can drive at a .08, but some people can't drive at a .05. A field sobriety tests is the best we have right now.

No one should be driving after drinking anyway, its just stupid.

 

[Zebo]

my cars are plastered with FOP and hw patrol stickers and if I do get pulled ovr all the cops know me.I hunt with most of them and they know I shoot better... in sum they dont fuck with Zebo.

 

[bruceb]

DUI's on your record, are no joke. I would never want to get hit with one, as it will mess up the insurance rates and in some states, you need an Ignition Interlock installed for a specific amount of time. And those things do not work well at all.

 

[darkswordsman17]

my cars are plastered with FOP and hw patrol stickers and if I do get pulled ovr all the cops know me.I hunt with most of them and they know I shoot better... in sum they dont fuck with Zebo.

Cool, cool. What does that have to do with, well, anything?

OP, please actually try this out. Also, if [when] the cop arrests you, make sure and resist.

 

[XZeroII]

lol. Anyone who believes TFP regarding this is a complete moron. If you did what the OP suggested, you would definitely be in big trouble.

First, at least in WI, breathalizers are not admissible in court so that is a non-issue. BAC can only be read by a licensed medical person via a blood test. Field sobriety tests and breathalizers are mearly justification for bringing you in for more tests. If you blow a 0.0 and are acting strange then you're probably on some other drug and they will get you for that. If you were just faking, then you've just wasted everyone's time but you can still be charged with being impaired. If you admit to faking, I'm sure that you've just broken some other law.

 

[fatpat268]

Meh, all I know is that I have a hell of a time reciting the alphabet backwards while sober

 

[jlee]

fictional scenario:
You havent been drinking all week.

cop pulls you over for minor traffic violation. (15mph over speed limit, failure to stop b4 turning right on red, brake light out, etc.)

he asks you the standard question of 'have you had anything to drink?'

Not a standard question unless there's some indicator - i.e. impairment or odor.

you lie and say you've had a couple beers in the past few hours.

He asks you to step out of car, and run you thru a few field sobriety tests which you fail on purpose. (remember, you havent had anything to drink for days.)

You can't fake HGN.

then he gives u breathalyzer, which you blow 0.00 since you havent been drinking at all. (for legal reasons the breathelizer is usually given AFTER the field sobriety tests.)

We don't typically give a preliminary breath test roadside. The 'official' breath test machine requires an operator to take a three day course to become certified, plus routine testing/calibration/etc to ensure accuracy of the equipment. Roadside PBT's don't undergo the same scrutiny and won't hold up in court.

So whats the worse that can happen? (JLee?)

Based on the facts and circumstances present, would a reasonable person believe that you were under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance while in control of a motor vehicle? If yes, there's probable cause for a DUI arrest. I would request a blood test and if you refused, your license or operating privilege would be automatically suspended by the State of NH. You could appeal (and possibly win) the hearing, but after you pay towing fees, legal fees, and the citation you're sure to get from the original offense, you'll wish you weren't a dumbass.

However, I can't tell you first hand - I have yet to run into someone that stupid.

/thread

 

[Narmer]

Not a standard question unless there's some indicator - i.e. impairment or odor.


You can't fake HGN.


We don't typically give a preliminary breath test roadside. The 'official' breath test machine requires an operator to take a three day course to become certified, plus routine testing/calibration/etc to ensure accuracy of the equipment. Roadside PBT's don't undergo the same scrutiny and won't hold up in court.

Based on the facts and circumstances present, would a reasonable person believe that you were under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance while in control of a motor vehicle? If yes, there's probable cause for a DUI arrest. I would request a blood test and if you refused, your license or operating privilege would be automatically suspended by the State of NH. You could appeal (and possibly win) the hearing, but after you pay towing fees, legal fees, and the citation you're sure to get from the original offense, you'll wish you weren't a dumbass.

However, I can't tell you first hand - I have yet to run into someone that stupid.

/thread

Yeah, all those fees and inconveniences can be a real deterrent.

 

[BeauJangles]

lol. Anyone who believes TFP regarding this is a complete moron. If you did what the OP suggested, you would definitely be in big trouble.

First, at least in WI, breathalizers are not admissible in court so that is a non-issue. BAC can only be read by a licensed medical person via a blood test. Field sobriety tests and breathalizers are mearly justification for bringing you in for more tests. If you blow a 0.0 and are acting strange then you're probably on some other drug and they will get you for that. If you were just faking, then you've just wasted everyone's time but you can still be charged with being impaired. If you admit to faking, I'm sure that you've just broken some other law.

The better question is why would you fuck with police officers over an issue like drunk driving? I understand that people have their issues with law enforcement, but does anyone really have a problem with people getting arrested for DUIs? It just seems childish to mess around with a guy that's just doing his job -- especially when he's doing a part of his job that most people support!

 

[moshquerade]

fictional scenario:
You havent been drinking all week.

cop pulls you over for minor traffic violation. (15mph over speed limit, failure to stop b4 turning right on red, brake light out, etc.)

he asks you the standard question of 'have you had anything to drink?'

you lie and say you've had a couple beers in the past few hours.

He asks you to step out of car, and run you thru a few field sobriety tests which you fail on purpose. (remember, you havent had anything to drink for days.)

then he gives u breathalyzer, which you blow 0.00 since you havent been drinking at all. (for legal reasons the breathelizer is usually given AFTER the field sobriety tests.)


So whats the worse that can happen? (JLee?)

Could you try this and get back to us?

 

[JEDI]

Not a standard question unless there's some indicator - i.e. impairment or odor.

hm.. in VA i got this question everytime i got stopped for a minor traffic violation (4 tickets in 9 years). and a couple of them added "are you doing any drugs?"

You can't fake HGN.

Horizontal gaze nystagmus (HGN) refers to a lateral or horizontal jerking when the eye gazes to the side. In the impaired driving context, alcohol consumption or consumption of certain other central nervous system depressants, inhalants or phencyclidine, hinders the ability of the brain to correctly control eye muscles, therefore causing the jerk or bounce associated with HGN.

We don't typically give a preliminary breath test roadside. The 'official' breath test machine requires an operator to take a three day course to become certified, plus routine testing/calibration/etc to ensure accuracy of the equipment. Roadside PBT's don't undergo the same scrutiny and won't hold up in court.

ahh.. guess the public's knowledge of breathalyzer tests are based on what they see on TV

Based on the facts and circumstances present, would a reasonable person believe that you were under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance while in control of a motor vehicle? If yes, there's probable cause for a DUI arrest. I would request a blood test and if you refused, your license or operating privilege would be automatically suspended by the State of NH. You could appeal (and possibly win) the hearing, but after you pay towing fees, legal fees, and the citation you're sure to get from the original offense, you'll wish you weren't a dumbass.

However, I can't tell you first hand - I have yet to run into someone that stupid.

/thread

and if u thought i wasnt under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance but just faking it for some unknown reason?

 

[jlee]

hm.. in VA i got this question everytime i got stopped for a minor traffic violation (4 tickets in 9 years). and a couple of them added "are you doing any drugs?"

Maybe it's you.

Horizontal gaze nystagmus (HGN) refers to a lateral or horizontal jerking when the eye gazes to the side. In the impaired driving context, alcohol consumption or consumption of certain other central nervous system depressants, inhalants or phencyclidine, hinders the ability of the brain to correctly control eye muscles, therefore causing the jerk or bounce associated with HGN.

You're telling me this...why, exactly?

ahh.. guess the public's knowledge of breathalyzer tests are based on what they see on TV

Shocking. Betchya you think we need to read you Miranda as soon as the cuffs go on, right?

and if u thought i wasnt under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance but just faking it for some unknown reason?

You mean because you're crazy, incapable of handling a vehicle and a danger to yourself or others? You need a psych eval? What's your point?

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

I would guess the DA could try to stick you with Obstruction if you admitted you were fucking with them.

 

[waggy]

You guys aren't seriously arguing with theflyingpig are you?

arguing wih theflyingpig is like argueing with Fleabag. Its impossible to win because they lack common sense or a IQ over 60

 

[BoomerD]

tfp is trolling you retarded assholes.

EVERYTHING that tfp posts is trolling.
Everyone knows this.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

arguing wih theflyingpig is like argueing with Fleabag. Its impossible to win because they lack common sense or a IQ over 60

You're giving him wayyyyyyyyy too much credit. I wouldn't believe one iota over 35.