Have you secured your wireless network?

jspeicher

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After about 4 months of no doubt *sharing my wireless with neighbors in my apt. complex, it put everything on lockdown and secured that baby up. There are about 12 other networks I can see and 3 of them are still accessible ... but I'm not a bastard.

Are you secure.
 

Stuxnet

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I use 128-bit WEP and don't broadcast my SSID. I know WPA is better, but, frankly, I don't give enough of a sh1t to piss with it right now. I'm using DHCP, but I'm using MAC filtering also. I know it isn't foolproof, but if someone needs my bandwidth bad enough to circumvent what's there, they can have it. Of course, if I find out about it I'll hunt them down like dogs and leave them where I find them.

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BTW, I'm surrounded by 6 other wireless networks, 5 of which are broadcasting SSIDs, and 4 of those are completely unsecured. Of the 7 networks (including my own), mine would be the biggest hassle to rip off.
 

Aves

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WPA-AES, MAC filtering, IP filtering, AP Isolation, no DHCP.


The last thing I need is some dipsh!t spreading torrents or something using my IP.
 

Tommunist

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do most routers have WPA? i'm not sure if mine does (d-link) but I'm currently using WEP. is WPA a lot better?
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Aves
WPA-AES, MAC filtering, IP filtering, AP Isolation, no DHCP.


The last thing I need is some dipsh!t spreading torrents or something using my IP.

Do you have a tinfoil hat?
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Tommunist
do most routers have WPA? i'm not sure if mine does (d-link) but I'm currently using WEP. is WPA a lot better?

Anything is hackable, but you need to consider the whole picture. Security freaks will tell you that if your house isn't incased in a big lead box, then you're being careless and deserve to get jacked.

Others, like me, just take the normal everyday steps to securing it and then playing it by ear.

1. 128-bit WEP is available on all routers and is easy to implement. No reason not to.
2. MAC filtering is also an easy way to deter the little boys. The true hackers aren't stopped by this, but if you have a true hacker trying to blast his way into your network, you're probably farked no matter what you do.
3. Don't broadcast your SSID. Again, easy measure to take.
4. Disabling DHCP is probably a good idea, but whatever.
5. Close all of your ports except the ones you need.

 

BCYL

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128bit WEP + no SSID Broadcast + MAC Filtering

Should be pretty secure
 

jamesbond007

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Tommunist
do most routers have WPA? i'm not sure if mine does (d-link) but I'm currently using WEP. is WPA a lot better?

Anything is hackable, but you need to consider the whole picture. Security freaks will tell you that if your house isn't incased in a big lead box, then you're being careless and deserve to get jacked.

Others, like me, just take the normal everyday steps to securing it and then playing it by ear.

1. 128-bit WEP is available on all routers and is easy to implement. No reason not to.
2. MAC filtering is also an easy way to deter the little boys. The true hackers aren't stopped by this, but if you have a true hacker trying to blast his way into your network, you're probably farked no matter what you do.
3. Don't broadcast your SSID. Again, easy measure to take.
4. Disabling DHCP is probably a good idea, but whatever.
5. Close all of your ports except the ones you need.

WPA is quite a bit better than WEP, just to answer the quoted question. I have my keys cycled every 5 minutes, so I would think you'd need to have a cluster of several laptops working furiously to beat the time limit. I use WPA-TKIP, MAC filtering, SSID broadcast disabled, etc.

One of my buddies went a step further and he requires the use of VPN on the machines in order to get on the Internet and local LAN. If you get into the WAP, you don't get onto the network itself because it's detached and not the router.

I will use wireless until the day someone hacks into mine. After that, I'm going back to wires, no matter what the cost, ugliness, or labor involves. :p
 

KeyserSoze

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Read some tutorials online, and get "The Auditor" distro of Linux. You'll be cracking WEP in no time. Not that it's cool, or you should be breaking other people's security, but just see how truly easy it is when you have the articles in front of you with the right tools. I use WPA-PSK, good enough.




KS
 

jamesbond007

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Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
Read some tutorials online, and get "The Auditor" distro of Linux. You'll be cracking WEP in no time. Not that it's cool, or you should be breaking other people's security, but just see how truly easy it is when you have the articles in front of you with the right tools. I use WPA-PSK, good enough.




KS

Can you specify what is the difference/better choice between WPA-PSK and WPA-TKIP?

Thanks..I've looked a bit online, but couldn't come up with a clear answer.
 

ElFenix

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what's the overhead use on WPA? iirc, WEP used to slow connections to a crawl
 

Rubycon

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No - it makes it too much of a PIA for customers to use.

Look for SSID = "mtndsi" to find it. All you can eat.
 

nissan720

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I have a neighbor - friend who I give like 10-20 buck each month to. It is cheaper than DSL or Cable here. We do use 128bit WEP and MAC Filtering.
 

Kaervak

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WPA, MAC Filtering, No SSID Broadcast & antenna power at %50. If someone wants in, fine but they'll have a hell of a time actually getting a connection, D-Link's Super G wireless doesn't play nice with non D-Link stuff in my experience.
 

AdamSnow

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WPA2 + Radius

And I have large coverage (my WIFI coverage goes across town to allow my brothers house to connect)
 

KeyserSoze

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Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
Read some tutorials online, and get "The Auditor" distro of Linux. You'll be cracking WEP in no time. Not that it's cool, or you should be breaking other people's security, but just see how truly easy it is when you have the articles in front of you with the right tools. I use WPA-PSK, good enough.


KS

Can you specify what is the difference/better choice between WPA-PSK and WPA-TKIP?

Thanks..I've looked a bit online, but couldn't come up with a clear answer.

I honestly don't know, and after googling it, I still don't know! I'm going to read up a little more, I'll send you a link if I find anything that gives a good concrete answer.


EDIT: Here is a decent site for terms, but doesn't get as detailed as I'd like it to on some things.
Link


KS