Have you had a DUI

[Gunslinger08]

No, but I also realize it isn't the worst thing someone can do. A DUI doesn't make you a bad person. Everyone makes mistakes.

 

[Tylanner]

nope

 

[jlee]

I blew a .168 which i later found was probably because of splitting my lower lip earlier that day. I know now I should have asked to have my blood drawn. In science there would never be a test like the breathalyzer....measureing how much alcohol that's in your blood, but measuring the amount in the blood of your respiration is flaky at best. On top of all that everyone is affected differently by alcohol.

.16 is aggravated DWI here. Breathalyzers are a lot more accurate than you think they are.

 

[RKS]

I wonder how many claim that a DUI is automatically akin to 1st degree murder and still complain that MADD is a fascist organization.

I have never had a DUI even though it was never as demonized as it is today compared to when I got my license (early 90's).

 

[skywhr]

No but I know quite a few ppl who have.

1 of them told me that it cost approximately $6000 that was about 3 1/2 years ago in VA

 

[eplebnista]

Have you had a DUI?

No, I do not drink alcoholic beverages.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

I blew a .168 which i later found was probably because of splitting my lower lip earlier that day. I know now I should have asked to have my blood drawn. In science there would never be a test like the breathalyzer....measureing how much alcohol that's in your blood, but measuring the amount in the blood of your respiration is flaky at best. On top of all that everyone is affected differently by alcohol.

.16 is aggravated DWI here. Breathalyzers are a lot more accurate than you think they are.

Well I really doubt that they are...hence my own experience.

My study was in biological sciences I took a pretty in-depth 7 years of it. Doing my own research a lot along the way.

The biggest problem is 0.08% BAL/BAC is not an even affect across the board. Second as in my case...about any blood in you mouth/throat/even digestive tract can exaggerate that test greatly.

Personally I think DUI roadblocks are unconstitutional. We have a ton here and twice in my life I have been late to events being detained in a line of cars for over 30mins. I would hate if I had a plane to catch.

I believe you are in law enforcement...how much research have you done on the breathalyzer and breath testing? My bet is you took a class given by your department and now are deemed an 'expert' on that.

I will say drunks should be taken off the streets, but the masses that are arrested each week (I suggest anyone here that has no clue to just sit in one of the forced MADD/SADD meetings you must attend and witness how many people were arrested).

The way MADD is now is it's an incredible political lobby. It's grown rich off playing off the heartstrings of the country. Who would tell a mother that her child that died was just an insignificant statistic... Add that to the fact that DUI falls under traffic court as well and you are basically guilty until proven innocent (you are forced to spend the night in jail for at least 8 hours, your car is towed under higher rates and impounded, your license is immediately suspended, etc).

I was always careful about drinking and driving and I still am...I had no idea the way the system worked until I was part of it. Since then I have spoken out with alot of people about it; many think you are advocating drinking and driving though. Much like here no one listens to what is being said, they just react.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DLeRium
Don't mean to threadjack, but if one gets Asian glow, does that mean my BAC is a lot higher?

More than likely if you aren't able to break down the alcohol it will affect you more.

A lot of people get flushed when they drink though. "Asian Glow" is a specific condition though.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: CadetLee

I blew a .168 which i later found was probably because of splitting my lower lip earlier that day. I know now I should have asked to have my blood drawn. In science there would never be a test like the breathalyzer....measureing how much alcohol that's in your blood, but measuring the amount in the blood of your respiration is flaky at best. On top of all that everyone is affected differently by alcohol.

.16 is aggravated DWI here. Breathalyzers are a lot more accurate than you think they are.

Well I really doubt that they are...hence my own experience.

My study was in biological sciences I took a pretty in-depth 7 years of it. Doing my own research a lot along the way.

The biggest problem is 0.08% BAL/BAC is not an even affect across the board. Second as in my case...about any blood in you mouth/throat/even digestive tract can exaggerate that test greatly.

Personally I think DUI roadblocks are unconstitutional. We have a ton here and twice in my life I have been late to events being detained in a line of cars for over 30mins. I would hate if I had a plane to catch.

I believe you are in law enforcement...how much research have you done on the breathalyzer and breath testing? My bet is you took a class given by your department and now are deemed an 'expert' on that.

I will say drunks should be taken off the streets, but the masses that are arrested each week (I suggest anyone here that has no clue to just sit in one of the forced MADD/SADD meetings you must attend and witness how many people were arrested).

The way MADD is now is it's an incredible political lobby. It's grown rich off playing off the heartstrings of the country. Who would tell a mother that her child that died was just an insignificant statistic... Add that to the fact that DUI falls under traffic court as well and you are basically guilty until proven innocent (you are forced to spend the night in jail for at least 8 hours, your car is towed under higher rates and impounded, your license is immediately suspended, etc).

I was always careful about drinking and driving and I still am...I had no idea the way the system worked until I was part of it. Since then I have spoken out with alot of people about it; many think you are advocating drinking and driving though. Much like here no one listens to what is being said, they just react.

I'm not yet certified on the Intoxilizer equipment. I'll run it by one of the guys tomorrow & see what they say about it.

The best idea is, if you've been drinking, don't drive...I know it's not your intent, but it does sound like you're trying to rationalize drinking and driving. I'm not saying to not drive after having a glass of wine at a restaurant...but if you've spent a few hours at a bar, you're better off not driving.

FWIW, I've never been to a MADD/SADD meeting.

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: DLeRium
Don't mean to threadjack, but if one gets Asian glow, does that mean my BAC is a lot higher?

More than likely if you aren't able to break down the alcohol it will affect you more.

A lot of people get flushed when they drink though. "Asian Glow" is a specific condition though.

If you're not able to break it down, then it wouldn't enter your bloodstream, no..?

 

[Jaiguru]

Never had one but there have been times when I definitely should have. One occasion where I was actually pulled over for rolling through a stop sign, I didn't. I still have no idea why that cop didn't do anything but ask if I had noticed the stop sign. This was all when I first turned 21. Since then I've learned my lesson and basically turned myself in to the official DD for the group.

A couple of months ago a buddy was pulled over and was definitely drunk(weaving in and out of the lane he was in). Cop didn't give him a DUI because he "wasn't drunk enough".

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: CadetLee
If you're not able to break it down, then it wouldn't enter your bloodstream, no..?

Breaking it down in reference to filtering it out of the bloodstream.

 

[alkemyst]

I was not rationalizing getting drunk and driving...I was stating the laws are way to harsh for what's not really a problem.

It's funny that most people that stand behind MADD/SADD also have never been to a meeting, it's got to have one of the biggest buy-ins out of any movement.

Jaiguru, I call shens on that. The DUI test is secondary to confirm the arrest when stopped for erradic behavior. You can be arrested for being too tired to drive. If the cops let him go they were definitely not understanding the intention of the law.

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I was not rationalizing getting drunk and driving...I was stating the laws are way to harsh for what's not really a problem.

It's funny that most people that stand behind MADD/SADD also have never been to a meeting, it's got to have one of the biggest buy-ins out of any movement.

Jaiguru, I call shens on that. The DUI test is secondary to confirm the arrest when stopped for erradic behavior. You can be arrested for being too tired to drive. If the cops let him go they were definitely not understanding the intention of the law.

I couldn't agree with you more. DUI/DWI is a HUGE, HUGE money maker. What other crime can you basically pull anyone over at any time on a Friday or Saturday night because they were "swerving" and get a nice $2k revenue? Nobody is going to stand up for it b/c of the huge political groups like MADD that pull on the heart strings of America. Again, I"m not saying it is good. In fact, I've never been nailed for DUI but I have many friends who have been and it cost them about $10k after it's all said and done. I won't do it anymore b/c it is just too expensive and if I hurt someone I would have to live with that guilt forever. And don't even get me started on the Public Intox "crime".

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Quintox

Originally posted by: Oceandevi
nope. drove drunk once and got home safe.

Hope you are kidding

More common than you think. I've never done it, but I know/heard of plenty who have, and some who continue to do so regularly.

People are really, REALLY dumb.

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Of course not, I'm not stupid/selfish enough to drive after drinking.

Where does intelligence come in the ability to tell if your blood alcohol level is .079 or .080? I think I missed that question on the last IQ test I took.

Driving with a BAC of .079 is "driving after drinking", and is stupid and selfish in most cases.

Driving with a BAC of .02 or something...well...that's not quite as bad. I can't imagine many people are impaired at that level.

And yes, driving while extremely tired is also stupid and selfish.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: CadetLee
Rationalization doesn't make it any better, pal.

Oh jebus, heres another one. :roll: The OPie asked about fines, costs, etc. I was making a social commentary on the protestant/puritan nature of our regulated social lives. This is where you say, "driving is a privilege." Sure, but in the states it is nearly impossible to live in most places without a car (major metros only). Again this, urbanization was a result of the government. Its a piss poor situation of youre damned if you do/dont. If you take advantage of suburban sprawl and all its wonder (cheap living, isolation, "space") youre damned if you want to socialize. I take it you prefer to live cheaply, in isolation, with your stupid yard and fat wife while chastising those that rebuke you and your puritan bullshit? Way to go, buddy/pal/friend.

BTW, dont get me started on how DUI laws tend to be driven by statistics of "alcohol related" accidents. "Alcohol related" can mean anything. If someone falls asleep and kills someone that had one beer in the car, that is "alcohol related."

 

[TwiceOver]

Nope... Thankfully I was outside the car when I was "Pulled Over". Minor Consumption $75.

 

[TheFamilyMan]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Back when I was in my teens & early 20's (70's & 80's) driving drunk was actually an Olympic sport.

I was never arrested, but drove impaired hundreds of times, like close one eye so I wouldn't see double...

And it was people like you that took my father from me when I was 18 months old. Thanks.

 

[Manuwell]

I've almost been caught once.

A friend and I were on our way back from a professionnal dinner where we have invited some customers of ours. We weren't drunk but both of our alcohol/blood ratios were over the limit (It was in Belgium and the limit is +/- 2 glass of whatever alcoholic drink can be; 2 beers, 2 glasses of wine and so on).

We have had a couple of drinks (like 2-3 glasses of wine, 2 beers and maybe a shot of liquor in a 3 hours meal) and I was the driver.

When we came back downtown, there was a trap. +/- 10 police cars (+/- 30 cops) were there, stopping every single car and doing alcohol tests (The one where you have to blow in a sort of balloon thru a device that measures the alcohol). We were doomed. We've been asked to stop the car, like everybody else and we were standing there waiting that the 'testers' came to us to do the test. There were so many cars that the cops were realy busy and, like 5 minutes later, one of them came by and asked me if I 've been tested already. I answered 'Yes sir, we're waiting to get back into the traffic'.

The cop then stopped the traffic flow and let us get the hell out of there. rofl.

So, no, I haven't been caught for dui.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Of course not, I'm not stupid/selfish enough to drive after drinking.

^This^

 

[TheFamilyMan]

Originally posted by: homercles337
Wheres your pole?

Yes. I was 21 and in a different state. California at the time was like a second offence "plus" (meaning 2.5 offences). I paid a $1500 fine and $2300 in classes. I also got arrested friday evening and had to spend my time in county until monday morning. :|

Sorry to hear your weekend of drinking and driving was interrupted by getting caught and taken off the streets. It's a shame you had to endure that. What animals those cops must have been to cage you up and keep you from drinking and driving.

Originally posted by: homercles337I also, *love* all the holier than thou, religious assholes that come out of the woodwork for threads like this. :roll:

So it's only "religious assholes" that don't advocate drunken driving? Grow up.

Originally posted by: homercles337Edit: i would also like to mention that more deaths occur because of people falling asleep than getting drunk. They always have. The added fines, lawyers, court costs, "classes," etc are nothing more than income for the state. Where is the same level of outrage for drowsy drivers? Oh, thats right, you cant qualify "drowsiness" to arrest someone.

I would also like to mention your weak ass argument is one that most people caught drinking and driving like to use. It's weak when used elsewhere and weak here. You can try to justify your immature and dangerous actions all you want. When you seriously injure or kill someone, I hope they print out this thread and pin it to your cell wall to remind you everyday.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Back when I was in my teens & early 20's (70's & 80's) driving drunk was actually an Olympic sport.

I was never arrested, but drove impaired hundreds of times, like close one eye so I wouldn't see double...

And it was people like you that took my father from me when I was 18 months old. Thanks.

No problem. I'm just being honest, it's part of the deal when you decide to get straight.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Back when I was in my teens & early 20's (70's & 80's) driving drunk was actually an Olympic sport.

I was never arrested, but drove impaired hundreds of times, like close one eye so I wouldn't see double...

And it was people like you that took my father from me when I was 18 months old. Thanks.

No problem. I'm just being honest, it's part of the deal when you decide to get straight.

and at the same time accidents happen and one should not just change the whole system because of one death.

One of the biggest things in DUI fatalities is one can't determine if the alcohol made the accident unavoidable or not.

Fortunately most DUI accidents are single vehicle non-injury....those that have injury are usually driver ones.

 

[440sixpack]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
I have driven impaired a few times over the years, and I'm very thankful that I've not been caught and nor have I gotten into an accident or hurt anyone. I am older now and hopefully wiser, and do not drive while impaired now.

I'm basically the same way. I did it a few times when it was questionable (which means I shouldn't have), but those days are done.

Oddly enough, I just spent two days on a jury for an OUI/Negligent Operation case, which gives me a whole new appreciation for what can happen if you get caught.

 

[Rogodin2]

I had a DUI years ago. My deal with the PA had it dropped after 3 years. It cost me $1500 for court fees, travel costs, and loss of automobile.

Rogo

 

[Koing]

Never.

I once did have a 2-3drinks and drove. I was possibly over the limit? I felt fine to drive but realised what a f0cking c0ck I was and I have never done so again. It was such a stupid move. I felt fine but it was a wreckless move. NEVER again.

Koing