Wheres your pole?
Yes. I was 21 and in a different state. California at the time was like a second offence "plus" (meaning 2.5 offences). I paid a $1500 fine and $2300 in classes. I also got arrested friday evening and had to spend my time in county until monday morning. :|
I also, *love* all the holier than thou, religious assholes that come out of the woodwork for threads like this. :roll:
Edit: i would also like to mention that more deaths occur because of people falling asleep than getting drunk. They always have. The added fines, lawyers, court costs, "classes," etc are nothing more than income for the state. Where is the same level of outrage for drowsy drivers? Oh, thats right, you cant qualify "drowsiness" to arrest someone.
Yes. I was 21 and in a different state. California at the time was like a second offence "plus" (meaning 2.5 offences). I paid a $1500 fine and $2300 in classes. I also got arrested friday evening and had to spend my time in county until monday morning. :|
I also, *love* all the holier than thou, religious assholes that come out of the woodwork for threads like this. :roll:
Edit: i would also like to mention that more deaths occur because of people falling asleep than getting drunk. They always have. The added fines, lawyers, court costs, "classes," etc are nothing more than income for the state. Where is the same level of outrage for drowsy drivers? Oh, thats right, you cant qualify "drowsiness" to arrest someone.
If she had a breath sensor, she was not a first time offender. As I understand it, those are for people with multiple offenses.
Shes a crackhead but as far as I know she hadn't had one recently. She wrecked a jeep about 6-7 years prior but I don't know if she was drinking (I assume so). Of course she may have had one and not told me but like I said. . . crackhead.
Where does intelligence come in the ability to tell if your blood alcohol level is .079 or .080? I think I missed that question on the last IQ test I took.
How about enough intelligence to think that if there is any chance you are impared then you should not drive. And tie goes to Cab/Walking as well.
Nope. Back in high school there were a couple times I shouldn't have made it home, but I did. Those were enough to scare me into never drinking and driving again. It sucks, my friends always go out on the other side of town, so I have no way to get over there other than an hour bus ride or a $30 taxi bill.
theeedude
Lifer
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Never. I always sober up before driving.
http://www.pamf.org/images/teen/Dwichart.jpg
Keep it under 2 drinks and stop drinking 2 hrs before driving is my rule of thumb. I am a bit over 200lbs.
http://www.pamf.org/images/teen/Dwichart.jpg
Keep it under 2 drinks and stop drinking 2 hrs before driving is my rule of thumb. I am a bit over 200lbs.
That would make sense if the legal limit was above impairment levels. It is not so people can get a DUI when they are not impaired.
Let me guess you are one of those macho men that can drink a whole keg and drive a race car perfect. :roll:
Yea keep thinking that.
It cost me $595 for the dui classes and I think $35 for court costs
no insurance increase (insurance co never found out about the DUI)
no towing/storage cost (passenger drove the car home)
no lost time from work (classes were in the AM, I work PM and I got the temp work license 2 days after the DUI)
An insurance company wont automatically know about a DWI/DUI unless there was an accident requiring the ins co to pay something/someone, or if you make changes to your policy..ie changing address, adding/removing driver or changing a car.
Companies have to pay to get DMV records, they do not pull the DMV records on every driver on every policy every year
no insurance increase (insurance co never found out about the DUI)
no towing/storage cost (passenger drove the car home)
no lost time from work (classes were in the AM, I work PM and I got the temp work license 2 days after the DUI)
An insurance company wont automatically know about a DWI/DUI unless there was an accident requiring the ins co to pay something/someone, or if you make changes to your policy..ie changing address, adding/removing driver or changing a car.
Companies have to pay to get DMV records, they do not pull the DMV records on every driver on every policy every year
jlee
Lifer
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You do realize that a driver may be impaired while under 0.08 BAC, do you not?
A buddy of mine put a 21-22yo girl in protective custody - she was walking/talking drunk at .357. Most people pass out at what, .22? Different people are affected to different extents. Bottom line - if you've been drinking, don't drive.
Kadarin
Lifer
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I have driven impaired a few times over the years, and I'm very thankful that I've not been caught and nor have I gotten into an accident or hurt anyone. I am older now and hopefully wiser, and do not drive while impaired now.
I also agree with homercles337 about the holier-than-thou assholes that come out in threads like this. Nobody leads a life without "sin".
I also agree with homercles337 about the holier-than-thou assholes that come out in threads like this. Nobody leads a life without "sin".
If you're fretting a thousandth, you're too stupid to worry about it. If you drink, don't drive. Problem solved.
alkemyst
No Lifer
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Depends where at....and if you are stupid enough to try and fight it unless you absolutely have too. The odds of winning are not to great, you usually end up getting the same thing you'd have gotten if you didn't fight it.
The kicker is if you contest it you can't drive until after the trial...if you let it ride at least here you can be at least driving to work quickly.
I paid my way through it, buying back my community service and I think the tab was $4k.
I was breaking up with a chick and she had a cop friend wait for me. I don't know what happened at the station, but I had 4 beers in about 4 hours and then left the bar a few hours after when the band wrapped up.
I was already parking when they approached and then had me do my roadsides in the middle of a traffic lane. The taped arrest was fvcked up. The big thing that got me arrested was the one officer that was giving me commands was doing so from the curb, with traffic I had a hard time hearing him.
He wanted me to say the alphabet, I thought he told me backwards. He didn't know WTF I was saying (in his comments), but when they write down what you are saying every letter I said was accurate from the letter he told me to start at.
I blew a .168 which i later found was probably because of splitting my lower lip earlier that day. I know now I should have asked to have my blood drawn. In science there would never be a test like the breathalyzer....measureing how much alcohol that's in your blood, but measuring the amount in the blood of your respiration is flaky at best. On top of all that everyone is affected differently by alcohol.
To fight it, I have had to hire expert witnesses. They'd have to be at each 'trial'.
The DUI didn't affect my insurance at all. I don't plan on getting a second one of these.
Statisically most people that drink will drive above the .08% at some point even when they state they don't drink and drive....also many that are adamant that they never do are really not drinkers.
The story behind DUI/DWI is extremely exaggerated. The fall down drunks are the ones usually killing people...these people either leave their homes drunk or are 'missed' by security at whereever they are drinking, but it's usually the masses that would have never injured anyone getting arrested, getting fines and all that. It's a very profitable deal.
The thing is most people think it's keeping everyone safe and that everyone 'caught' was a hazard. Once people get affected by it they know the problem.
Many people are arrested not even driving. Just having your keys on your or within distance to be able to use them is enough for an arrest. It's not uncommon for smokers to get nailed going to there cars to use the lighter, people sleeping in the backseat, and those drinking while working on their vehicles in their own driveways.
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