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Have you guys seen this "dreadlocks girl" from SanFran U?

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Wow, this is some prank! Still, I can tell from the words that she just made all of that up. This is so obviously fake. Horrible acting.
 
I like how she didn't even bother to mention her assault on the guy filming her. And lol @ "the opportunity to have a voice". You have a voice you stupid fuck, we just don't want to hear it. A typical product of libtard culture.
 
1prophet said:
Her response, basically she says the video doesn't capture the whole story, a similar response often heard from the police when they get videotaped doing something inappropriate.

She claims the video ruined her life, but there is still hope, the skill she has in spinning bullshit into comedy gold will make for an excellent career in public relations or politics..😀


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1568623723449663&id=100009061505470

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Over the past few weeks, America has held discussions about my personal Black experience, dancing between their own definitions of right and wrong. Over the past few weeks I had to move from my home, change my cell phone number, and disable social media accounts. On March 28, 2016, a viral video was released that intentionally does not capture the full context of an encounter. While passing out flyers in Malcolm X plaza, I saw a white male approaching with dreads. Triggered, I unconsciously move my arm holding the flyer further. He does not approach me to receive a flyer and continues on to his destination. Attempting to react to what triggered me, I jokingly say in a quiet voice "Not with that hair" in the opposite direction of him. My intention was to collegially provoke thought within the man to critically think about his dreads and the racial implications it has as a non-Black person. During the entire incident including what was caught in the viral video, he never refers to the flyer, which he later would intentionally report to the police in order to create a "hate crime" narrative over the flyer. Rather, he then verbally assaults me. He called me a “Bitch.” As a black woman, verbal assault by men comes easily as women are dehumanized, objectified, and over-sexualized by them. I look for the man, going into the building, naturally, to confront him about the verbal slur, tired of being silent. Tired of being docile. I asked him "Did you call me a bitch?" He denied having called me a “Bitch." He then asked me why I said that about his hair.


What was recorded was chopped and edited by the White male who captured part of the event on his cell phone. The White male student's motivation is suspect in that it does not come as an objective point of view, by his own divisive word choice of “assault” (in the title of the video when posted), in order to incite controversy by framing me as the stereotype of the "Angry Black Woman" and the man in the video as a fragile white victim. He selectively edits only a portion of the encounter that contrives to cast an impression of unprovoked aggression on my part. He says in his interview that he deliberately roams around campus looking for encounters to record on his cell phone. In the video, the conversation between the white male with dreads and I was intended to be a learned opportunity. My facial expressions were never negative nor was my body language. His body language was already energetic. The male had the opportunity to try to explain to me how I should think about my space and existence as a Black person. He dismissed any consideration that I was making a valid point about White appropriation of Black culture. After, he begins to walk away. I tried to continue to talk to him. It frustrated me that I didn’t get the opportunity to have a voice. He touches me first. He touches me first (at 0.19 seconds). He places his hand on my arm to move me away to leave from the conversation. You can see this nineteen seconds into the video. I naturally respond back with touch. I nonviolently place my open hand on his shoulder. I nonviolently pull on his arm, urging him to come back to the conversation. It has not been legally deemed assault.



You can tell me that the decisions I made are right or wrong but what we need to focus on is the wrong in the response to the video. In the aftermath, I have been the subject of violence in the form of death threats, rape threats, sexual harassment, and anti-Black hate speech. Davia (David) Spain has received homophobic slurs, death threats, hate mail, and the release of their personal information although they did not take part in the incident. Further, the racist and misogynistic vendetta against me has resulted in my own personal information including home address, phone number, social media accounts, places of employment and other details about my private life leaked and mass distributed on YouTube comments, Facebook posts, and other Internet forums. To protect myself, I had to move from my house, change my cell phone number, disable my social media accounts, and have had to withdraw into a secured location in order to maintain my safety. In the process, my academic success, current work for my community, and future employment opportunities have been jeopardized. The countless hate mail, death threats, and disregard to my safety should not be the result of this video. No one deserves this compromise. There is a history of vilifying black women, there exists the stereotypical narrative of an angry black woman through out history. There is a reason that this particular video garnered millions of views. A black woman is portrayed as the aggressor and the white counterpart is portrayed as the victim. The language used to describe the video is suspect. "Black assaults and attacks white" is harsh and does not deem the video of a justly cause. What the encounter can be described as is a nonviolent physical encounter between two students. It saddens to see this kind of hate in response. It saddens me that some people can't or choose not to understand my level of growth in regard to my culture and my blackness. The amount of ethnic studies class one takes doesn't invalidate their personal black experience. The amount of books one reads doesn't invalidate their personal black experience. There is no hierarchy to being aware of ones self and ones blackness. What I did was my personal choice that shouldn't be receiving this kind of uproar. I do believe in personal rights and freedom of expression. That should never be smothered. What I don't believe in is the participation of other cultures without any understanding of such culture and the narratives that the people of that culture experience, have it be positive or negative. These narratives of Black culture with physical appearance intertwined exists. I am a part of that narrative. A 46 second video should not define my character, myself as a person, myself as a human being.
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"Triggered..."

😀 😀 😀
 
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Oh crap, I completely glossed-over the usage of the t-word. :awe:

Now I'm actually starting to wonder if this Facebook post is fake, I find it really difficult to believe that people actually use that word seriously.
 
She is just ridiculous. No sense of accountability at all. Saying that she was triggered into confronting a stranger based on his appearance is an insult to everyone who really suffers from PTSD.

The saddest thing is that for all the crap she received over this she doesn't even realize that this post is going to be make things much worse.
 
1prophet said:
Her response, basically she says the video doesn't capture the whole story, a similar response often heard from the police when they get videotaped doing something inappropriate.

She claims the video ruined her life, but there is still hope, the skill she has in spinning bullshit into comedy gold will make for an excellent career in public relations or politics..😀


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1568623723449663&id=100009061505470
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jesus christ that is painful to read. i can't stand it when anybody has to emphasize what race/gender they are when trying to prove their point. she does both of them.

apparently 0.19 means 19 seconds.
 
Ichinisan said:
"Triggered..."

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LOL!
She's just a walking, talking FACTORY of manufactured outrage at litterally *EVERYTHING*

"And while typing this on a screen I realized the page was white and the text was black, clearly saying black is LESS than white! My computer is...racist...!!"
 
JSt0rm said:
Come on. I was repeating something. So its not fake. Still doesnt change my point as I wasnt using her video to make my point.
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You ignorantly dismissed the video as "fake", without a shred of evidence for that claim, like the naive "Rakehellion" through multiple posts, because you knew the catalyst for this "conversation" was indefensible buffoonery. And that made you uncomfortable.

Of course a discussion can be had on the issue, but the obvious abandonment of the original video as "fake" was purely about your complete inability to defend such indefensible idiocy in the OP, and how doing so would further weaken your arguments.

"Oh crap. The dumbsss in the video is making a fool of herself about this issue.
FAKE! It's fake guys! Cuz it's better for my narrative that way!"
 
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She, and people like her, do not have the self awareness to admit wrong doing. She would be incapable of seeing this incident from another point of view.
 
Imagine a white person did (what she did) to a black person with straight hair.

Wrong is wrong. Period.
 
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JSt0rm said:
But that's not the argument. So I don't know what to tell you.
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But THIS IS the argument and you've done nothing to address it:

poofyhairguy said:
OK that makes sense to me finally, I think. Let me make sure:

Basically the problem is a frustration with a double standard where a young white male can wear dreads when he in his early 20s because "it's cool" but then cut his hair when he is 25, put on a suit, and be statistically more likely to get a good job or loan than a black male his age no matter his hair or clothing style. The problem isn't that the white male isn't less respected when he is wearing dreads (that is what I kept getting hung up on, a white guy in dreads is considered trash to most of my in-laws), the problem is an appearance he is taking what he wants from the black community culturally without paying any of the cost of being black.

If that is truly it I am pretty sympathetic. Even if the white individual had no malice, he is accidentally flaunting his position in society by associating himself with a superficial part of the African American experience. At the same time the rational side of me considers the possibility that without such acts of appropriation "black culture" remains a hindrance to those who are genuinely part of it. It wasn't until white guys played rock, or white guys rapped that such music became culturally accepted, but today you here rap at major events filled with old white people. I don't think I want to advocate appropriation, but I can see the practical benefit. Life sucks sometimes I guess.
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PHG: Great analysis. I think that in disagreeing with JStr0m et al. you've made the best case possible for their side. I appreciate the intellectual honesty.

Let's just call a spade a thing we dig in the dirt with:

We have institutions in society that perpetuate racial discrimination. We have people working against racial discrimination. And while it is obvious that the latter cannot exist without the former; the more interesting fact of the matter is that the former are only embolden by the latter.

Understanding some "other"'s way of being in the world will not happen because people are pissed. It will only happen through mutually a respectful interaction.


This is why generally casting white people doing 'black peoples' things as 'appropriation' is harmful.

Specific instances of disrespect and inauthentic parodying of the other, on the other hand, is harmful. (see the 'redskins' football team, or the dude in a Rasta outfit).

The give-aways are that the football team is using an ethnic slur, and the Rasta guy is wearing a dreadlock-wig.
 
DixyCrat said:
PHG: Great analysis. I think that in disagreeing with JStr0m et al. you've made the best case possible for their side. I appreciate the intellectual honesty.
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Thanks, I try to make that my modus operandi.

In this case it's obvious the right answer is that the world shouldn't be prejudiced towards black people and black culture. We know that isn't reality though. In fact the more I think about it the appropriation can be seen as a form of empowerment. No seriously, hear me out:

Every non-anglo ethnic group in America (Hispanics, Asians, African Americans, etc.) has been faced with the choice to either keep their culture or appropriate mainstream "white" culture themselves to fit in economically. Despite this some sort of social pressure to not (or TO) "act white" is a phenomenon unique to the African American experience. In every other culture the cultural leaders (family, teachers, etc.) push the minority children to basically "act white" the second they hit a public school because they care more about the success of their individual child than the role of their ethnic culture in the greater American conscience. In the African American community though we see claims of people "selling out" if they fall too much in line with anglo norms and practices.

In fact not only do African Americans self-enforce cultural standards within their community, but their culture for DECADES now (you can probably say a century if you include Jazz) has found a way to not only co-exist with the dominant anglo culture but is often times is held up (very superficially I would admit) as the example of "cool" within that culture. White suburban kids in the 1990s/2000s bought all those rap albums because they represented a window into a very distinct culture separate from theirs, and even though the white kid respect was often based on the wrong thing ("wow that is so awesome he was shot a few times before he started rapping") just the fact it existed showed a subliminal respect towards a culture that REFUSES to be reduced to symbolic stereotypes within the dominant white culture (aka the fate of most ethnic minority cultures in America). Because of that the economist in me has a lot of sympathy for African Americans who don't want to see their culture randomly appropriated by whites, as obviously their culture has a real world (read: $$) value. If African Americans wouldn't have protected that culture from dilution for years then it wouldn't have that value today, so defensiveness is a natural and healthy response when that value is ignored.

The problem for African Americans in society is that their culture only shines through via entertainment venues- aka things not very important. We don't know yet if those 1990's white kids who listened to rap will be more apt to hire a qualified black candidate when they get in charge, but it is pretty obvious that the culture of money- aka "Wall Street culture"- will remain anglo dominated for all our lives. The challenge is finding a way to basically "sell" white Americans on the benefits of African American culture without letting white people appropriate that culture. Again I know the answer is black people shouldn't have to worry about that, but sometimes reality is impossible to avoid.
 
poofyhairguy said:
The problem for African Americans in society is that their culture only shines through via entertainment venues- aka things not very important. We don't know yet if those 1990's white kids who listened to rap will be more apt to hire a qualified black candidate when they get in charge, but it is pretty obvious that the culture of money- aka "Wall Street culture"- will remain anglo dominated for all our lives. The challenge is finding a way to basically "sell" white Americans on the benefits of African American culture without letting white people appropriate that culture. Again I know the answer is black people shouldn't have to worry about that, but sometimes reality is impossible to avoid.
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I don't agree that entertainment venues are not very important.. People spend a lot of time on entertainment and a huge chunk of the economy - and therefore by extension, Wall Street - is tied into it.

The thing with entertainers is that people, especially young people, will imitate them. That's always going to happen. When a black artist carries certain cultural affects with them and a white audience really likes their music and starts imitating them they're not imitating black culture. They're imitating highly visible and influential individuals, which then becomes part of popular culture. And the claim that it's only cool and imitable because white people are doing it falls flat because it usually started being cool and imitable with black people doing it. I don't know about rock, that was a long time ago, but there's no question that rap didn't need white artists to become mainstream and popular. I'm not aware that white rappers are taken very seriously even among white listeners. And where white artists do push things from other cultures they usually attribute influence to previous major artists from that group, not the group itself.

I'm reminded of a similar appropriation/respect complaint towards gay men who act too much like "sassy black women." I've seen a lot of these men politely explain that they're not trying to act like black women, they're just imitating specific black female celebrities who were very admired and adored within gay communities.
 
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