Have You Gotten Your Covid Vaccine? Thread.

[Paratus]

More misinformation from Yale.

URGENT: Yale researchers have found Covid spike protein in the blood of people never infected with Covid - years after they got mRNA jabs

The spike proteins shouldn't be there. It's possible that vaccine genetic material has integrated with human DNA, causing long-term spike production. The Yale team will publish its findings soon.

alexberenson.substack.com

Sounds like more misinformation from Alex Berenson.

 

[Annisman*]

Sounds like more misinformation from Alex Berenson.

Totally! He's so full of misinformation that Twitter banned him for all his misinformation. He then sued and they apologized and gave him his account back, this was before musk was around. Anyways what were we talking about.

 

[esquared]

Yeah, I am not believing in any of this guys shit that he posts in his blog.

Here's a bit from Wikipedia about Alex berenson

During the coronavirus pandemic, Berenson appeared frequently in American right-wing media, spreading claims about COVID-19 and its vaccines.[8] He spent much of the pandemic arguing that its seriousness was overblown. Once the COVID-19 vaccines became available, he made claims about the lack of safety and effectiveness of the vaccines.[9][10][11][12][13]

 

[Annisman*]

The lack of safety thing is crazy I agree, for instance I bet he thinks more people died in Pfizer's vaccinated group than the placebo side. Oh wait what's this over here ?

"In July of 2021, a study published by Pfizer explained that “during the blinded, placebo-controlled period, 15 participants in the [Pfizer vaccine] BNT162b2 group and 14 in the placebo group died.” Using FDA-style math, that is a 7% increased chance of death.

But it gets worse. After the placebo group was unblinded, an additional 5 participants who received the vaccine died. As Pfizer explains, “3 participants in the [Pfizer vaccine] BNT162b2 group and 2 in the original placebo group who received [Pfizer vaccine] BNT162b2 after unblinding died.”

Adding this up, in the clinical trial from July 2020 to March 2021, 20 deaths occurred among those who received the vaccine as compared to 14 who received the placebo."

Pfizer’s Clinical Trial Had More Deaths After Vaccination than Placebo

The FDA would likely let Pfizer get away with literally almost anything.

aaronsiri.substack.com

 

[Annisman*]

Anybody want to guess which side had more heart related deaths ? I'll let you guess.

I honestly can't believe what kind of a delusional echo chamber this place has become does anybody even challenge you properly here? Have they all given up and left ?

 

[Paratus]

Anybody want to guess which side had more heart related deaths ? I'll let you guess.

I honestly can't believe what kind of a delusional echo chamber this place has become does anybody even challenge you properly here? Have they all given up and left ?

You one of those antivaxxers?

We don’t take kindly to the maliciously ignorant here.

 

[Annisman*]

You one of those antivaxxers?

We don’t take kindly to the maliciously ignorant here.

Nothin malicious about wanting the truth about everything.

 

[Pens1566]

Not this shit again ...

 

[Paratus]

Nothin malicious about wanting the truth about everything.

But you don’t want the truth. You want to feel special and smart. So you believe things that aren’t true and cherry pick things that are to support your beliefs.

You should stop lying to yourself.

 

[esquared]

Yeah, hasn't posted in over 3+ years and decided to take a dump here.

Anti vaxxers really aren't welcome because there's no honest discussion. I mean referencing this fucking guy berenson? May as well start talking about sticking a UV light up your ass like the orange menace suggested.

I really thought we were done with this

Apparently not.

 

[PowerEngineer]

I honestly can't believe what kind of a delusional echo chamber this place has become does anybody even challenge you properly here? Have they all given up and left ?

Well, according to you anti-vax zealots, all of us who have been vaccinated should have died long ago. You should recognize that the undeniable fact that we are still here to annoy you is a proper challenge to your irrational beliefs. Unfortunately for you, this isn't the kind of delusional echo chamber that you are looking for.

 

[Annisman*]

Well, according to you anti-vax zealots, all of us who have been vaccinated should have died long ago. You should recognize that the undeniable fact that we are still here to annoy you is a proper challenge to your irrational beliefs. Unfortunately for you, this isn't the kind of delusional echo chamber that you are looking for.

You don't annoy me at all, but you're something of a novelty at this point. The current vaccination rates are incredibly low and have been for a couple years, people know they are not needed. It's a failed product held up by the ego of a "health" regime that is about to get launched into the sun for their gross incompetence. I am glad you are doing well, truly, but for just about everyone it has become all risk and no gain.

 

[Annisman*]

Yeah, hasn't posted in over 3+ years and decided to take a dump here.

Anti vaxxers really aren't welcome because there's no honest discussion. I mean referencing this fucking guy berenson? May as well start talking about sticking a UV light up you ass like the orange menace suggested.

I really thought we were done with this

Apparently not.

I won't stay long, I was genuinely amazed with what I found here though, it's like the Japanese who refused to surrender 20 years after the war had ended, you'd want to talk to them too yes ?

 

[Annisman*]

But you don’t want the truth. You want to feel special and smart. So you believe things that aren’t true and cherry pick things that are to support your beliefs.

You should stop lying to yourself.

No I definitely want the truth. When I present to you that more people died in the vaccinated arm of the Pfizer clinical trial than the unvaccinated what is your reaction, is it to look for yourself or is it to dismiss ? I think that will say a lot about who wants the truth here.

 

[brycejones]

I won't stay long, I was genuinely amazed with what I found here though, it's like the Japanese who refused to surrender 20 years after the war had ended, you'd want to talk to them too yes ?

Weird how most people here don’t want to make whopping cough great again.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I won't stay long, I was genuinely amazed with what I found here though, it's like the Japanese who refused to surrender 20 years after the war had ended, you'd want to talk to them too yes ?

コロナで死ね、ぼけ。

 

[Paratus]

No I definitely want the truth. When I present to you that more people died in the vaccinated arm of the Pfizer clinical trial than the unvaccinated what is your reaction, is it to look for yourself or is it to dismiss ? I think that will say a lot about who wants the truth here.

Then understand the truth.

The risk of death from COVID through 2022 was about 1 in 275. (1.2M deaths out of 330M people).

A comprehensive review of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines: Pfizer, Moderna & Johnson & Johnson - PMC

The novel coronavirus outbreak was declared a pandemic in March 2020. We are reviewing the COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the United States by discussing the mechanisms of action, administration, side effects, and efficacy of vaccines ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Pfizer and Moderna showed a ~ 95% reduction in severe disease and death. That’s a 20 times reduction in risk.

As for risk of myocarditis the original study showed a risk of about 1 in 286,000. Myocarditis isn’t necessarily fatal so risk of death is much lower than 1 in 286,000

Further studies didn’t show a relationship between young adult, cardiac death, and mRNA vaccination status.

Assessment of Risk for Sudden Cardiac Death Among...

This report describes a review of Oregon death certificate data to assess whether young people in Oregon might be dying after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.

www.cdc.gov

What you and your article fail to understand that in population of test subjects some of them are going to die from normal causes. Unless there is a statistically significant number of test subjects dying and a causal mechanism then it’s just the random chance of which subjects die.

 

[Jaskalas]

I really thought we were done with this

About that...

We were once a society that idealized progress, such as science.
The internet has allowed propaganda to swallow that whole.
Malfeasance has been allowed to fester like a wound and grow gangrenous.

We can lose a limb and survive, but our society will NEVER be the same or whole again. Not until we value the method of fact finding, of silencing noise, and promoting critical thinking. In the name of freedom we have sat idle and allowed the rot of propaganda to spread. There has been zero action taken and zero progress made on this front. Society's inability to see reason from madness grows more terminal by the year.

 

[Pens1566]

Then understand the truth.

The risk of death from COVID through 2022 was about 1 in 275. (1.2M deaths out of 330M people).

A comprehensive review of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines: Pfizer, Moderna & Johnson & Johnson - PMC

The novel coronavirus outbreak was declared a pandemic in March 2020. We are reviewing the COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the United States by discussing the mechanisms of action, administration, side effects, and efficacy of vaccines ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Pfizer and Moderna showed a ~ 95% reduction in severe disease and death. That’s a 20 times reduction in risk.

As for risk of myocarditis the original study showed a risk of about 1 in 286,000. Myocarditis isn’t necessarily fatal so risk of death is much lower than 1 in 286,000

Further studies didn’t show a relationship between young adult, cardiac death, and mRNA vaccination status.

Assessment of Risk for Sudden Cardiac Death Among...

This report describes a review of Oregon death certificate data to assess whether young people in Oregon might be dying after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.

www.cdc.gov

What you and your article fail to understand that in population of test subjects some of them are going to die from normal causes. Unless there is a statistically significant number of test subjects dying and a causal mechanism then it’s just the random chance of which subjects die.

I never did see any vaccine study/results where the myocarditis risks were ABOVE the rates in the base population. And, also your point as well.

The best argument I've seen was higher rates among male teens, but that is also something that is observed in the general population as well.

No one I know, cardiologists included, consider it a valid argument against the vax. In fact, someone should just respond with the myocarditis rates among actual covid infected. It's way higher. But, you'll just get crickets and a pivot to some other nonsense argument.

 

[brycejones]

Then understand the truth.

The risk of death from COVID through 2022 was about 1 in 275. (1.2M deaths out of 330M people).

A comprehensive review of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines: Pfizer, Moderna & Johnson & Johnson - PMC

The novel coronavirus outbreak was declared a pandemic in March 2020. We are reviewing the COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the United States by discussing the mechanisms of action, administration, side effects, and efficacy of vaccines ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Pfizer and Moderna showed a ~ 95% reduction in severe disease and death. That’s a 20 times reduction in risk.

As for risk of myocarditis the original study showed a risk of about 1 in 286,000. Myocarditis isn’t necessarily fatal so risk of death is much lower than 1 in 286,000

Further studies didn’t show a relationship between young adult, cardiac death, and mRNA vaccination status.

Assessment of Risk for Sudden Cardiac Death Among...

This report describes a review of Oregon death certificate data to assess whether young people in Oregon might be dying after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.

www.cdc.gov

What you and your article fail to understand that in population of test subjects some of them are going to die from normal causes. Unless there is a statistically significant number of test subjects dying and a causal mechanism then it’s just the random chance of which subjects die.

I guess we'll see if we need to wait another 3 years for a response.

 

[feralkid]

I won't stay long

Prove it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Bill to ban mRNA vaccines passes out of House committee

A bill that would ban the use of mRNA vaccines, including for Covid-19, is on its way to the House floor after passing out of committee in a party-line vote Wednesday.

dailyinterlake.com

Let’s see how far this goes, since an anti vaxxer is now overseeing HHS, who knows, there’s no bottom

 

[sdifox]

LoL the big pharma will put an end to that.l, one way or another.

 

[K1052]

Bill to ban mRNA vaccines passes out of House committee

A bill that would ban the use of mRNA vaccines, including for Covid-19, is on its way to the House floor after passing out of committee in a party-line vote Wednesday.

dailyinterlake.com

Let’s see how far this goes, since an anti vaxxer is now overseeing HHS, who knows, there’s no bottom

lol Montana

Look at these absolute morons:

The bill was amended to specify that the legislation would ban mRNA vaccines “for infectious diseases" and not “gene therapy products used to treat cancers or genetic disorders.”

 

[Brainonska511]

lol Montana

Look at these absolute morons:

Just the absolutely stupidest people being elected.