Engineer
Elite Member
- Oct 9, 1999
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They do in the middle east too. They always went in the portajohns with a giant waterbottle. If I had to guess every culture wiped with a hand at some point in time.
ftfy
Baked
Lifer
- Dec 28, 2004
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her209
No Lifer
- Oct 11, 2000
- 56,336
- 11
- 0
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
- Jul 3, 2003
- 74,586
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Nope. I once carried a bag through airport security at San Diego International Airport with a .45 clip with ammo in it. They asked if they could look in my bag and I was horrified when they pulled that out. I explained that I use that bag to go shooting and didn't realize that the clip was in there. His response was, "Well, you can't take it on the airplane with you." I had my wife with me so she picked it up on her way out.
Today I would be hauled into an interrogation room and probably be on a no fly list...
Nintendesert
Diamond Member
- Mar 28, 2010
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Nope. I once carried a bag through airport security at San Diego International Airport with a .45 clip with ammo in it. They asked if they could look in my bag and I was horrified when they pulled that out. I explained that I use that bag to go shooting and didn't realize that the clip was in there. His response was, "Well, you can't take it on the airplane with you." I had my wife with me so she picked it up on her way out.
Today I would be hauled into an interrogation room and probably be on a no fly list...
I don't know, but have the sneaky suspicion it's also probably a felony now too.
This country is worse now than the Soviets and the KGB ever were. Technology has allowed the US to absolutely surpass the Soviets in every way.
IronWing
No Lifer
- Jul 20, 2001
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Phoenix86
Lifer
- May 21, 2003
- 14,644
- 10
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In specific examples he's absolutely correct. Obviously he's not correct when you weigh everything.
Needs more
Nintendesert
Diamond Member
- Mar 28, 2010
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True enough, I was referring to the spying and monitoring of its citizens, not the wholesale slaughter of some 40ish million people.
Lithium381
Lifer
- May 12, 2001
- 12,452
- 2
- 0
sao123
Lifer
- May 27, 2002
- 12,653
- 205
- 106
That is squarely the fault of the Democrat party for running John Kerry. Of course the people chose Bush over that moron.
The USA has:
1. Statewide constant surveillance of all US Citizens, indeed, pretty much the entire world, with no court supervision and (until recently) no public knowledge.
2. The Police Force is starting to resemble an organized crime unit. Officers break into the wrong houses all the time, shooting innocent people dead, and get a slap on the wrist. Citizens record officers breaking the law, and are either intimidated or charged with a felony.
3. Laws that will affect US Citizens (the Trans Pacific Partnership) are negotiated behind closed doors by the powers that be, at the behest of the corporate powers.
When I think of the States, I used to think of freedom, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, the American Dream. I think it has become its own worst nightmare - a surveillance police state run for and by the rich and powerful elite.
So yes, the terrorists have won by forcing the States to become its own worst nightmare.
1. Statewide constant surveillance of all US Citizens, indeed, pretty much the entire world, with no court supervision and (until recently) no public knowledge.
2. The Police Force is starting to resemble an organized crime unit. Officers break into the wrong houses all the time, shooting innocent people dead, and get a slap on the wrist. Citizens record officers breaking the law, and are either intimidated or charged with a felony.
3. Laws that will affect US Citizens (the Trans Pacific Partnership) are negotiated behind closed doors by the powers that be, at the behest of the corporate powers.
When I think of the States, I used to think of freedom, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, the American Dream. I think it has become its own worst nightmare - a surveillance police state run for and by the rich and powerful elite.
So yes, the terrorists have won by forcing the States to become its own worst nightmare.
The Boston Dangler
Lifer
- Mar 10, 2005
- 14,647
- 2
- 0
of course terrorists have won - denial is far easier than accomplishment, and our own state denies its citizens the liberty we once had. in order to protect us from terrorists (highly suspect success and motives there), we have given them exactly what they wanted and could not have done themselves.
We're spending eleventy billion pounds every year on anti-terrorist measures due to people being utterly terrified of the 0.00000000000000001% chance that they'll be affected by some kind of terrorist activity.
Yeah, they've won.
Yeah, they've won.
tokie
Golden Member
- Jun 1, 2006
- 1,491
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John Kerry was meh. I think the real problem was Edwards -- everyone know he smelt fishy and there was a gut feeling that guy was dirty.
When you compare the combined ticket of Kerry-Edwards with today's information vs Bush-Cheney (keeping in mind Iraq was invaded before election) then it is obvious why Bush was picked.
JTsyo
Lifer
- Nov 18, 2007
- 12,038
- 1,135
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It's very much possible but we wouldn't have the stomach or desire to do what it takes to end it. If we ever win one of those wars, they all those that have been fighting would be out of a job, good incentive to not win.
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