Have people gotten stupid lately!?

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Yes go back in memory lane since alot of people forget about the past :

From HardOP which was called a bias review towards nvidia by alot of people back then.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Njk3LDExLCw=

"Make no bones about it, the X850XT-PE can easily best the NVIDIA 6800Ultra in many of today?s latest 3D gaming titles, and Catalyst driver maturation is evident in these latest evaluations. And while it does fall a bit behind in DOOM 3, it hardly delivers anything close to what could be described as ?bad? performance."

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=936&page=7
"At the time of writing, Radeon X850 XT Platinum Edition is undoubtedly the fastest graphics product money can buy."

http://www.guru3d.com/article/content/176/15/
"Of course the Radeon x850 XT PE is the fastest thing around, once you have it in your rig you will absolutely love it. Whatever task you'll assign it in terms of media playback, 2D desktop, recording video and of course playing games You'll simply love it. You better start saving though because the prices of the fastest graphics cards around are getting a bit more steep then is good for them."


http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_x850xt_agp/page12.asp

Just look at bechmark at high res.

QFT. My X800XT PE was faster than my 6800GT@Ultra speeds through a series of games I benched. My X850XT PE only widened the margin.

Back on topic: I agree with the OP in that there seems to be even more unfounded "facts" being thrown around the Video forum than usual. We have very little hard facts at this point and while speculation threads are interesting IMO, people shouldn't spout speculation as fact.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Elfear
I agree with the OP in that there seems to be even more unfounded "facts" being thrown around the Video forum than usual. We have very little hard facts at this point and while speculation threads are interesting IMO, people shouldn't spout speculation as fact.

Couldn't agree more. :thumbsup:

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: StopSign

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

-Kevin

I am pretty sure all of these problems could be solved if you quit signing your name after every post.

:light:

Lies.

- M4H

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: xtknight
I've noticed a gradual increase in my own stupidity after several days in ATOT. So I've come back for rehab.

I can?t help myself, it?s contagious.

I find myself over there quite a bit now, where as I used to solely reside in the OC forum.

 

[Avalon]

I've always been extremely stupid.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: StopSign

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

-Kevin

I am pretty sure all of these problems could be solved if you quit signing your name after every post.

:light:

Lies.

- M4H

QFT

-Kevin

 

[Mullzy]

Welcome to an interweb forum... where lack of facts and knowledge are made up for with loads of attitude use of the link/quote functions.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

-Kevin

I am pretty sure all of these problems could be solved if you quit signing your name after every post.

LOL you really need to stop with your pet peeves Angel. You have a problem with DAAMIT, and now Kevin signing his posts. Wut up wit dat?

 

[Keysplayr]

We need to hire a spy. A techno spy. To infiltrate DAAMIT's secret lair and to extract all the underlying truths covered by current marketing BS.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

-Kevin

I am pretty sure all of these problems could be solved if you quit signing your name after every post.

LOL you really need to stop with your pet peeves Angel. You have a problem with DAAMIT, and now Kevin signing his posts. Wut up wit dat?

Some small things do get on my nerves, no doubt which is why they are called pet peeves.

 

[Regs]

I like to think of it as venting from The Doom and Gloom cult.

 

[CaiNaM]

lately? no.

many have been stupid for quite some time.

 

[Acanthus]

I agree with most of your rant, but to say AMD isnt in trouble without looking at their situation and knowing wtf you are talking about isnt exactly wise either.

They are posting huge losses, both the former ATi graphics division and CPU division lost money, not counting the enormous amount of debt from the merger.

They have no flagship product for their next gen, and wont until May.

Their 65nm process isnt shaping up well, whereas Intel has announced their 45nm is ahead of schedule. AMD will retain their manufacturing disadvantage.

AMD has a lot of outstanding debt from the new facility in NY and the aquisition of ATi, now theres talks of a buyout of AMD outright.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I agree with most of your rant, but to say AMD isnt in trouble without looking at their situation and knowing wtf you are talking about isnt exactly wise either.

They are posting huge losses, both the former ATi graphics division and CPU division lost money, not counting the enormous amount of debt from the merger.

They have no flagship product for their next gen, and wont until May.

Their 65nm process isnt shaping up well, whereas Intel has announced their 45nm is ahead of schedule. AMD will retain their manufacturing disadvantage.

AMD has a lot of outstanding debt from the new facility in NY and the aquisition of ATi, now theres talks of a buyout of AMD outright.

I don't know where you got all of your info, but AMD is in no trouble whatsoever. They lost what $1.50 on their stock last quarter?

As for a flagship product....seriously, you can't be serious. <1% of the people in this world are gamers and will buy a flag ship product. They are probably want to get it out ASAP, but are certainly not in any trouble.

As for their CPU...65nm process is fine. It's just new. When Intel's came out it wasn't the best either. As for not "beating" Intel, do you remember the days of the AXP? They didn't win then and they did just fine.

AMD/ATI is absolutely fine.

-Kevin

 

[Killrose]

There are very few "True" enthusiasts here. Fanboyism sucks and the gluing of oneself to a particular brand for a 6month period with a re-fresh in the spring is pretty rdiculous.

I myself do not live upto what I would consider a "True" enthusiast on all points, not even close. And I really wish we had more than two dominate performance video GPU and CPU manufactures.

 

[Zebo]

The X850 was definitely not faster than the 6 series. Better IQ, absolutely, but certainly not faster.

Have people gotten stupid lately!?

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Killrose
There are very few "True" enthusiasts here. Fanboyism sucks and the gluing of oneself to a particular brand for a 6month period with a re-fresh in the spring is pretty rdiculous.

I myself do not live upto what I would consider a "True" enthusiast on all points, not even close. And I really wish we had more than two dominate performance video GPU and CPU manufactures.

QFT

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Zebo

The X850 was definitely not faster than the 6 series. Better IQ, absolutely, but certainly not faster.

Have people gotten stupid lately!?

with that statement...I would say so

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: Zebo

The X850 was definitely not faster than the 6 series. Better IQ, absolutely, but certainly not faster.

Have people gotten stupid lately!?

with that statement...I would say so

even Rollo admitted this but pimped on the SM3 bandwagon as it's advantage. Being an NV fan I bought the 6800GT for it's cooler running and better drivers But I know ATI's was faster. Hell I even bought a FX5900 over 9500/9700/9800 - all faster


For those stupid like the thread starter.

In recent history ATI began it's lead as follows

8500=GF4
9800>GF5
850>GF6

Then NV took lead with 7800.
Then ATI came back with 1900.
Then NV slapped ATI around with 8800's

ATI is far from being a has been, you're right in that.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: Zebo

The X850 was definitely not faster than the 6 series. Better IQ, absolutely, but certainly not faster.

Have people gotten stupid lately!?

with that statement...I would say so

even Rollo admitted this but pimped on the SM3 bandwagon as it's advantage. Being an NV fan I bought the 6800GT for it's cooler running and better drivers But I know ATI's was faster. Hell I even bought a FX5900


For those stupid like the thread starter.

In recent history ATI began it's lead as follows

8500>GF4
9800>GF5
850>GF6

Then NV took lead with 7800.
Then ATI came back with 1900.
Then NV slapped ATI around with 8800's

ATI is far from being a has been, you're right in that.

that one is wrong....the 8500 wasn't faster than the GF4 TI 4600 or 4800 series cards...it was close but not faster...I know...because I still own both types.

 

[Zebo]

I was still editing.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I was still editing.

:roll:

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Nvidia's drivers are not as bad as people (Particularly the Inq) make them out to be.

Everyone with an 8800 card and Vista have told me Nvidia drivers are a lot worse than you can imagine.

 

[SickBeast]

The R8500 was not equal or better than the GF4ti series. The ti4600 *dusted* it completely. It could *barely* keep pace w/ a ti4200 under ideal conditions.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
The R8500 was not equal or better than the GF4ti series. The ti4600 *dusted* it completely. It could *barely* keep pace w/ a ti4200 under ideal conditions.

You're high, again.
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/videocards/article.php/3211_1140671__6

And if you guys don't like the 8500 analogy I could just as easily put the 9700pro in there which came out three months after ti4600 which really did destroy it.