I know that downloading music is illegal but i believe that the RIAA and the production companies brought it on themselves. I have a 128 disc folder full of $15.00+ cd's with one or two songs on it that i like. The fact is that people were ripped off so badly for so long that when the opportunity came along for free music, they jumped at the opportunity with little guilt. I honestly believe that if someone had come out with something like iTunes when all of this was starting 4 years ago, much of the piracy would have been avoided. if i could have purchased a quality version of any song i like for $0.99 i dont know if i would have hassled with finding one on napster. the fact is that the RIAA and its clients were so fat and happy at the time that they completely ignored the digitalization of music, only waking up in time to see the stampede dust pass them by. They are now trying their best to hold it back but there is too much out there.
Like it's been said before and i will say it again... until they offer us a reasonable solution for downloading music we will like.. the will continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
They could be making millions and millions more per year if they just let us download songs we want to for a fee. No nonsense... no bull, just music we want to pay for.
I think they also can offer EVERY SINGLE SONG & version ever made. It couldn't be that hard. In fact, if they offered me a million dollars in hardware, I could easily set up a system for them to do so
They could be making millions and millions more per year if they just let us download songs we want to for a fee. No nonsense... no bull, just music we want to pay for.
I think they also can offer EVERY SINGLE SONG & version ever made. It couldn't be that hard. In fact, if they offered me a million dollars in hardware, I could easily set up a system for them to do so
Heh, the majority of users will never go onto any music download source. Why? Because you have to pay! Why would anyone pay when you can download Kazaa...WinMx. Emule.....
Yeah, they're hitting Verizon so hard because Verizon fought them so hard. So this is their idea of payback. Their thoughts are "Oh, so you want to prevent us from being greedy turds? Fine, we'll be gready turds and make your life misserable."
Personally, I hope Verizon takes forever to get the info to them, or mysteriously looses the customer data.
hear about this,
i recently formated my hard drive
nothing saved on it any longer
also i reinstalled ZoneAlarm
i recently formated my hard drive
nothing saved on it any longer
also i reinstalled ZoneAlarm
ViRGE
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It'll still never hold. You can't use the DMCA to cover up illegal activities; the AIMster case more or less proved that.Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: Hubris
Yeah, I'm sure that would hold up in court.
Under the DMCA it does. All you have to have are logs showing that when they were informed of the policy and told that doing anything but exiting immediately implied consent of these rules that they did something that indicated they agreed. The wording of the warning does have to be specific though.
Its REALLY ironic , them saying its effecting RECORD SALES! I work in a warehouse, were a good share is Music CD's, and we've just been informed that the warehouse incresed its sales by 20% !!!!!! So much so they're expanding.
No names mentioned.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... go figgure
And no, this isnt bull...suprised me too!
No names mentioned.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... go figgure
And no, this isnt bull...suprised me too!
It looks like what the RIAA does to Kazaa users is go through their shared folder to see how much copyrighted material a user has. I don't think they'd waste their time on someone who has 10 songs downloaded. Well the new KazaaLite has an option that will not let you look through a users shared folder. VERY sweet! All we need now is an IP spoofing "feature" and all will be complete. Let the RIAA try to get the logs of an ISP in Switzerland, only to find out it is a rogue IP. Fvck the RIAA! Fvck them hard!!!
RIAA, let me let you in on a little secret...The reason your records sales are down isn't because of P2P, it's because ALL OF THE MUSIC OUT NOW SUCKS!!! I download VERY few songs. And the ones I download, I usually buy the CD. I'm REALLY picky about what I put in my music library, and the only music that goes in there are MP3 that are ripped from CDs I OWN. I have 350+ CDs (that I bought and paid for) in my music libray, but I haven't bought CDs lately, because there is nothing out there that I like. Sh!t, I haven't used Kazaa Lite to download music in...forever.
And here is another suggestion for the RIAA...Let's start paying these ex-crack dealers (50 cent) less so you can drop the price of the CDs, so more people will buy them. $16 for a CD is BS!
Fvck the RIAA! Fvck them hard!!!RIAA, let me let you in on a little secret...The reason your records sales are down isn't because of P2P, it's because ALL OF THE MUSIC OUT NOW SUCKS!!! I download VERY few songs. And the ones I download, I usually buy the CD. I'm REALLY picky about what I put in my music library, and the only music that goes in there are MP3 that are ripped from CDs I OWN. I have 350+ CDs (that I bought and paid for) in my music libray, but I haven't bought CDs lately, because there is nothing out there that I like. Sh!t, I haven't used Kazaa Lite to download music in...forever.
And here is another suggestion for the RIAA...Let's start paying these ex-crack dealers (50 cent) less so you can drop the price of the CDs, so more people will buy them. $16 for a CD is BS!
Originally posted by: JackBurton
It looks like what the RIAA does to Kazaa users is go through their shared folder to see how much copyrighted material a user has. I don't think they'd waste their time on someone who has 10 songs downloaded. Well the new KazaaLite has an option that will not let you look through a users shared folder. VERY sweet! All we need now is an IP spoofing "feature" and all will be complete. Let the RIAA try to get the logs of an ISP in Switzerland, only to find out it is a rogue IP.
RIAA, let me let you in on a little secret...The reason your records sales are down isn't because of P2P, it's because ALL OF THE MUSIC OUT NOW SUCKS!!! I download VERY few songs. And the ones I download, I usually buy the CD. I'm REALLY picky about what I put in my music library, and the only music that goes in there are MP3 that are ripped from CDs I OWN. I have 350+ CDs (that I bought and paid for) in my music libray, but I haven't bought CDs lately, because there is nothing out there that I like. Sh!t, I haven't used Kazaa Lite to download music in...forever.
And here is another suggestion for the RIAA...Let's start paying these ex-crack dealers (50 cent) less so you can drop the price of the CDs, so more people will buy them. $16 for a CD is BS!
LMAO ....^^^^^Someone has a clue!^^^^^ Can I get an amen? how about a whoa Bundy!
but but...the ex crack dealers and no talent insane ass clown musicians out there are so kewl! a 13 year old girl said so on a talk show. and they are like so kewl! like m&ms, I like the green ones. insane is in man, haven't you heard? the whole world has gone looney. or maybe they always were.
I think its funny how many people are looking to somehow justify the fact that they are stealing by saying things like the RIAA is so greedy or so much music sucks. If the music sucks, why are you downloading it to begin with? The RIAA has the right to be greedy if they want. It still doesn't change the fact that you are stealing from them. While I do agree that the artists aren't getting a cut, it doesn't change the fact that people are stealing from the RIAA. They have every right to try and take back what is theirs, and I think it's so pathetic that so many people are willing to risk being sued over it.
The biggest thing that cracks me up though, is when people try to say they do it because CDs cost too much. People, CDs have been the same price for the past 8 or 9 years, if you aren't used to the price by now then it probably means you have piss poor financial skills and you spend too much money on pure CRAP. You don't need to buy every CD in the world just because they have one song you like.
For the record, that is not a fact, that is merely your opinion.
The biggest thing that cracks me up though, is when people try to say they do it because CDs cost too much. People, CDs have been the same price for the past 8 or 9 years, if you aren't used to the price by now then it probably means you have piss poor financial skills and you spend too much money on pure CRAP. You don't need to buy every CD in the world just because they have one song you like.
For the record, that is not a fact, that is merely your opinion.
I'm not downloading JACK! The point is, the RIAA is blaming poor record sales on P2P, when in all actuality it is because there isn't anything out there worth buying (OR downloading)!
i was signed up to emusic.com for a while (when tmbg released new "exlclusive" stuff every month) it was like 10 bucks a month all the downloads you want. a lot of good stuff...even excellent spoken word.
let me get a listen for a lot of bands i might not haveotherwise.
So what if the record companies arent releasing anything good. So what if they are blaming record sales on P2P, I know I am. It is still stealing! You idiots think you can hide by putting a little note, you dont have permission to download from me blah blah blah. I bet 100% of all the anandtech users who 'warez' dont have the resources to put up with any legal battle from the RIAA a multi billion dollar recording company. Are the RIAA Assholes by ruining college kids lives? Who was the person who started a campus wide Direct Connect Network which could easly have over 100k over stolen software and music? Which would most likely be copywritten forbidding you of redistrubiting without a proper permit. Of course the RIAA could have just slapped them on the wrist, a $5k fine instead of narly 175k one. The DMCA eliminates all of your protection of hiding your secert stash of mp3s. Its what its meant to do. I do actively download, but am I afraid? Yes, but I am still a minor and I've only got less than 12Gbs of warez. Do you see me ranting like a idiot on how the RIAA is evil? Nope, its stealing! I do it because I know I can get away with it 99.9% of the time! I really enjoy the suggestions on how the RIAA should offer a download system. Why in the hell would anyone pay for anything when they can download their music for free? Not many people respect any of the artists, if they did they would be buying their albums.
emule = www.emule-project.net, if you don't know something, google it.
Personally I prefer the other edits/mods of emule like emule+ and fusion/LSD.
yukichigai
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That's the same logic people used when cable TV first came out. "Why would anyone pay for TV when they can get it for free?" Easy: because if you pay for TV you'll get extra stuff. The same should go for a pay-per-track music system. And we do have something like that out: iTunes. As far as I can tell Apple doesn't seem to think it's a bad thing. In fact they seem to be moving on with it quite nicely. The only thing really holding them back is the restriction to Apple-based Operating Systems.
The DMCA did not cover AIMster because it was a centralized server that had been proven to be used nearly exclusively for piracy. On top of that AIMster didn't have any sort of option to allow legal text to be displayed upon user connection. With FTPs and fservs it's integrated into the system. And honestly, how many people running fservs have you heard of being prosecuted for information on that fserv?
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