Have a sick kid that needs basic Meds, NNAAA just pray that will work!!!

[JS80]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
This is murder, plain and simple. If people want to forgo medical treatment because of their idiotic belief in a fairytale, let them. But when children are involved, the government needs to step in and stop pussing out to the religious morons in this country. Freedom of Religion means freedom from a set governmental religion, not complete disregard of standard decency, law, and logic in the name of religious freedom. It isn't the time of witches, demons, and mass murder in the name of a god anymore; we need to distinguish between logic and idiocy at some point.

I wonder what religion they were following.

The family does not attend an organized church or participate in an organized religion, Vergin said. "They have a little Bible study of a few people."

 

[Amused]

I hate to sound cruel, but why do we want the children of stupid people to survive?

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Reminds me of the joke where god sent two boats and a helicopter...

The tools to fix the problem were available, they just ignored it.

Going to say the same thing.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
You gotta ask yourself why this is allowed to continue. It has been happening here ever since this country was founded.

The problem is that any government action regarding this issue is infringing on the freedom of religion, one of the founding principles of this country. Who is uncle Sam to tell a parent or a child that they will not heal because there is no God?

People have a right to their belief no matter how fvcked up it is.

If they beleive in divine intervention then so be it....and I'll tell ya, as an example I have NEVER seen an Amish person in any hospital ever, so when they are ill like this what do you think they do?

If one of theirs goes into a diabetic coma do you think they load them up in a cart and trot into the city for medical attention or call for a squad?...doubt it.

It is an unfortunate thing, but like it or not the government is not always the answer to the problem, sometime you just gotta let people do what they are gonna do....it's all part of natural selection.


....and let me add, how do any of us know for sure that isn't some kind of divine intervention?....how may deathly ill people have you heard about that were on the brink of death and then suddenly made a full recovery without any scientific explanation what so ever?

I am not saying there is someone in the sky performing miracles, just playing devils advocate......

i think its very sad that the girl died, as well as the parents are morons for not getting modern medical help. but i also dont condemn them for their beliefs. religious beliefs are all about faith and being tested on that faith. im not a religious person, but i wouldnt have much respect for them if they started out saying that their god will heal all and then when it gets a bit tough they back pedal and say "woops, mebbe we should try out some pills for this one". at least they stuck to their beliefs, however wrong you or i feel they may be.

 

[sutahz]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

The mother believes the girl could still be resurrected, the police chief said

I find it funny she believes in reanimating the dead.

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i don't buy any justifications for this. they let their daughter suffer and die when she could be very alive right now.

You're not religeous as them. They are way more holy then thou.

The government couldn't step in, they didn't know it was happening (I'm guessing, can't read the article, websense).

The law has no common sense. From a legal stand point the parents may not have done anything wrong and taking their still living children away is not legal. There needs to be a common sense law that overrides other laws when necessary (and word it just like that).

Originally posted by: waffleironhead
What I cant get my head around is that if they believe in god then why the fuck do they not bevieve that god made the medicine exist and wants them to take it?

Is modern medicine in the bible? I thought not. Blasphemy!

"She should still be alive and living a pretty normal life!"
I don't think where she would be growing up is pretty normal, based of what this story has told us.

Originally posted by: JS80
I wonder what religion they were following.

The family does not attend an organized church or participate in an organized religion, Vergin said. "They have a little Bible study of a few people."

A new age church, they're probably the leaders or founders, doesn't matter though.

All in all retard parents who no doubt didn't learn a lesson or are telling one big lie to cover up their neglect.

Originally posted by: randay
insulin is not a cure for diabetes.

True, but it would have been a cure for her death (per say, just wanted to use the word cure).

 

[TwiceOver]

Reality: 1; God: 0

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Reality: 8; God: 0

Fixed it for you.


This is what you get from religion. When people are free to believe in invisible men in the sky it stands to reason that he's not going to come through.

 

[Ns1]

They did it for the lulz

 

[Vic]

Which religion are we supposed to be bashing today? The article forgot to say.

The family does not attend an organized church or participate in an organized religion, Vergin said. "They have a little Bible study of a few people."

Let me explain to you guys how the media works. They tell outright lies in order to sell copy. Why do they do that? Because the truth is boring. What they do is they start with the boring truth, which is the actual news, and then spin the importance of some small and usually irrelevant aspect of that in order to make it and interesting to get your attention and (most importantly) to generate outrage. That makes you angry, which releases adrenaline, which becomes addictive. In the end, the media is just pushers to adrenaline junkies.

This is a tragic instance of child abuse. There will unfortunately be many today. And we might be able to deal with and address the causes of such, but the adrenaline junkies are too busy pretending this is something else so they can get their regular hate fix.

 

[Kalvin00]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i don't buy any justifications for this.

Sadly, our legal system does.

 

[Nocturnal]

I believe in God and believe that God has made all of these treatments available to us. The parents are truly to blame for this and I believe they should be locked up. They're truly fucked in the head.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Kalvin00

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i don't buy any justifications for this.

Sadly, in our legal system, there is.

There might be if they actually belonged to some church that subscribed to such anti-medical science beliefs.

I remain hopeful, however, that the DA will see through this pathetic alibi being used by the parents here.

 

[dainthomas]

As time goes on these groups will have less reproductive success than normal people, therefore through evolution they will eventually be driven to extinction. Kind of funny that they will eventually be wiped out by something they probably don't believe in.

 

[drinkmorejava]

Should I know what NNAAA means?

 

[randay]

god works in mysterious ways.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Reminds me of the joke where god sent two boats and a helicopter...

The tools to fix the problem were available, they just ignored it.

There's a similar one:

A man was hiking high on a mountain and came to the summit. As he was walking towards the ledge, it gave way and he began falling. Fearing his life he prayed to God saying: "God please help me - I know I haven't been the best person and I don't ask for much but please help me and I promise that I will change my life!"

Just seconds later a branch growing out of the side of the mountain caught onto the strap on his lucky backpack and stopped his fall. The man looked up and said: "Nevermind God, I've got it handled."


It's just ridiculous. I don't see how they can't believe that medicine isn't evil, etc. There are plenty of Christian doctors and researchers. If they believe in an all powerful God, then they should believe that the medicine to cure someone only exists because God has allowed it to exist.

Though they could say that it is a temptation from the Devil but....I dunno how these people come up with any ideas like this anywhere in the Bible.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: child of wonder
I don't get it. I'm sure many people who are outraged by these parents allowing their child to die would consider themselves Christians.

So didn't Jesus himself say "ask and you shall receive?"

Yes He did. But He also said not to test God.

I would think that if a simple, well known cure to a problem is readily available - there wouldn't really be the need to ask for some miracle.

If they are dying of an untreatable cancer and have 2 days to live - that's something to pray for a miracle about.

 

[Nitemare]

A man fell overboard from his little boat and was thrashing around in the water when another boat pulled up.

"Jump in," shouted the boater. "We'll save you."

"No", cried the drowning man, "God will save me."

The scene was repeated twice more, before a helicopter finally arrived and hovered over him. Once again, the man refused help on the same grounds ... God would save him.

The man finally drowned and as he crossed the Pearly Gates he gazed into God's eyes with obvious confusion.

"I placed my faith in you and you let me drown," he complained.

"Let you drown?", exclaimed God. "I sent three boats and a helicopter."


Culling the herd, it's a shame the kid died instead of the parents though.

 

[RESmonkey]

LOL RELIGION

 

[Canai]

People are fucking retarded, and many just use religion as an excuse.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: child of wonder
I don't get it. I'm sure many people who are outraged by these parents allowing their child to die would consider themselves Christians.

So didn't Jesus himself say "ask and you shall receive?"

Yes He did. But He also said not to test God.

I would think that if a simple, well known cure to a problem is readily available - there wouldn't really be the need to ask for some miracle.

If they are dying of an untreatable cancer and have 2 days to live - that's something to pray for a miracle about.

insulin is not a cure for diabetes.

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Should I know what NNAAA means?

i thought the same thing when i first read the thread title. But he means, "nahhhh"

 

[dakels]

good thread with good points. I wonder if our judicial system can prosecute this under willful neglect or something.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

LAWL@YOUPEEPHOLE

Freedom of religion? Abuse how? They believe in their god and not modern medicine. In all areas of the law, your children are effectively your property, so it's their call.

Shall we go round up all the children from all of the remote areas of the world where just the same thing, and what most of us would find far more barbaric things occur all the time, and save them?

It's sad to me that there are still people that believe in hokey crap like god, or worse, that he is affecting your life, but it is much sadder to me, despite all of the history we have at our disposal, that so many amoung us feel that we should dictate people's beliefs simply because we think we know better.

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
In all areas of the law, your children are effectively your property, so it's their call.

So i can go ahead and beat the shit out of my property whenever i want, right? After all, it's just my property. It's not against the law to break my TV and that's just property.


Sweet.