Has Liberalism Jumped the Shark?

[BarrySotero]

Democrats were hijacked by MoveOn/Soros crowd (you could tell how far the fell when they attacked the tropps in public and wished for them to lose so they could ranty-rant on Bush). Now the less radical elements remaining in Democratic party see Obama and Prozac Pelosi are taking them over a cliff. Dems from MoveOn crowd think a person is an extremist if: they dont think AWG is real, reject boys marrying each other, don't see terrorists as "like our founding fathers", don't think ACORN is peachy etc. It was obvious what Obama was before the elections but libs are good at using emotions to block facts. Back in Jan many of them were talking about Dem rule for 40 years. At the rate Obama is going the Dem party is headed for crack-up that makes what Bush did to GOP look like a picnic

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: alchemize

The real issue is, Obama, while running for change, has no real change in mind. Just a different flavor of kool aid. I'm glad you like grape better than cherry.

Or perhaps you're one of those "we're just not spending enough money, waging wars in the right places, and spying on the right americans" liberals, and that's what you classify as "handling the bush disaster".

Who you be?

Ah yes, It's Allsurmise with his endless opinions stated as facts. Oh wait, he said 'or perhaps' even if with 'perhaps' the same implication.

But the cases you mention are all a result of Republican disaster. Republicans as you well know are the party of fear thine enemy and kill him first if you can. It is the party of cowards who have no faith in the American legal system and believe only in raw power. It is the party of cowards morons and fools, as it were, but anyway.....

As the Republicans made a demon of Communists and China only a Republican could open that door. Democrats are soft of defense. Say that a million times till you believe it.

So you imbeciles with your irrational fears have put the Democrats in the corner. There is no way any intelligent Democrat is going to allow the Republicans to paint him as soft of defense.

If those issues are important to you and, I know they are not, you just love to point to hypocrisy, then get the Republicans to lead the way. Only Republicans can compromise with the dread monster under the bed.

Name one single, significant policy that is substantially different than Bush's. And you can't use torture (although I would argue torture isn't significant, it's symbolic and effects zero citizens of the US)

We've been over this before. Remember when I named like 6 or 8 things that were substantially different? Iraq, stem cells, environmental issues, etc... etc.... etc.

Remember who you are talking to. You can't reprogram a wind up top.

 

[Lemon law]

One wonders exactly how many bats inhabits Barry Sotera's belfry. As he tries to paint all democrats as extreme as Soros and move on.org.

As it is, much of the GOP electorate remains rational, about 75% by my count, while only 25% are driven by Limbots and the religious right. But the problem is and remains, the GOP leadership are far too driven by the 25% wacky minority.

And the election of 2008 have removed many of the GOP's elder Senate spokesmen, people like Warner, DeMedici, and others who knew how to work on a bi-partisan basis, and not because they would have lost their seats in the last election, but because old age and poor health prompted them to retire.

And anyone who has any faith in the leadership or vision of McConnell or Boehner as the new GOP Moses has to have more nuts than a fruitcake.

And even if the republirats love to bash Pelsoi and Reid, they knew how to work with the GOP when Bush was Pres, and they keep the various range of democrats happy by working with the various wings.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Democrats were hijacked by MoveOn/Soros crowd (you could tell how far the fell when they attacked the tropps in public and wished for them to lose so they could ranty-rant on Bush). Now the less radical elements remaining in Democratic party see Obama and Prozac Pelosi are taking them over a cliff. Dems from MoveOn crowd think a person is an extremist if: they dont think AWG is real, reject boys marrying each other, don't see terrorists as "like our founding fathers", don't think ACORN is peachy etc. It was obvious what Obama was before the elections but libs are good at using emotions to block facts. Back in Jan many of them were talking about Dem rule for 40 years. At the rate Obama is going the Dem party is headed for crack-up that makes what Bush did to GOP look like a picnic

Actually you see what you see only because you're insane. You hate what makes you human. I think you could help yourself a lot if you start wearing girls underpants. It will do your ego some good and keep you from always having to pretend you have testicles.

 

[Steeplerot]

It probably does look like liberalism has overextended yourself if you listen to talk radio, luckily no one gives a shit what they or their listeners think outside of their own little outraged world they made for themselves.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
One wonders exactly how many bats inhabits Barry Sotera's belfry. As he tries to paint all democrats as extreme as Soros and move on.org.

As it is, much of the GOP electorate remains rational, about 75% by my count, while only 25% are driven by Limbots and the religious right. But the problem is and remains, the GOP leadership are far too driven by the 25% wacky minority.

And the election of 2008 have removed many of the GOP's elder Senate spokesmen, people like Warner, DeMedici, and others who knew how to work on a bi-partisan basis, and not because they would have lost their seats in the last election, but because old age and poor health prompted them to retire.

And anyone who has any faith in the leadership or vision of McConnell or Boehner as the new GOP Moses has to have more nuts than a fruitcake.

And even if the republirats love to bash Pelsoi and Reid, they knew how to work with the GOP when Bush was Pres, and they keep the various range of democrats happy by working with the various wings.

He works for NASA and is making a list of the crazies who PM to support his positions. There aren't that many bats in the universe.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
It probably does look like liberalism has overextended yourself if you listen to talk radio, luckily no one gives a shit what they or their listeners think outside of their own little outraged world they made for themselves.

Outrage gives people who feel worthless a sense of importance and meaning.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: PJABBER

I have never seen a monkey cornered by a tiger that was liberal.

Who are you calling a liberal, the monkey or the tiger?

Neither. I didn't say liberal, I said not liberal. I never saw one that was liberal.

You are saying both the monkey and the tiger are conservatives?

You still have not responded to this important question.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Funny, while you see liberalism all I see is more of the same. But the real issue, I believe, is that Obama, while running for change, was handed the Bush disaster instead. All the effort of this administration is going, not into progress, but in saving us from drowning.

We are in the doldrums with nothing to do but bail. It was clear what would happen if we elected a disaster like Bush and now we pay the piper.

By the way, people are full of doubt because they hate themselves and the kind of pieces you post are there to sew more seeds of doubt. Hope will always be destroyed by power seekers who manipulate to stay in power. They have no hope and have replaced it with lust for money and control.

I am going to make some Folgers Instant in a few with milk and play some Warcraft and maybe have a piece of old bread. Then I'll go out and water my tomato.

The real issue is, Obama, while running for change, has no real change in mind. Just a different flavor of kool aid. I'm glad you like grape better than cherry.

Or perhaps you're one of those "we're just not spending enough money, waging wars in the right places, and spying on the right americans" liberals, and that's what you classify as "handling the bush disaster".

Who you be?

Ah yes, It's Allsurmise with his endless opinions stated as facts. Oh wait, he said 'or perhaps' even if with 'perhaps' the same implication.

But the cases you mention are all a result of Republican disaster. Republicans as you well know are the party of fear thine enemy and kill him first if you can. It is the party of cowards who have no faith in the American legal system and believe only in raw power. It is the party of cowards morons and fools, as it were, but anyway.....

As the Republicans made a demon of Communists and China only a Republican could open that door. Democrats are soft of defense. Say that a million times till you believe it.

So you imbeciles with your irrational fears have put the Democrats in the corner. There is no way any intelligent Democrat is going to allow the Republicans to paint him as soft of defense.

If those issues are important to you and, I know they are not, you just love to point to hypocrisy, then get the Republicans to lead the way. Only Republicans can compromise with the dread monster under the bed.

Name one single, significant policy that is substantially different than Bush's. And you can't use torture (although I would argue torture isn't significant, it's symbolic and effects zero citizens of the US)

It affects me. It makes me ashamed to be an American is a nation so full of assholes that would willingly torture others in the name of rights, human dignity, and freedom. Such assholes are not Americans at all but filthy cowards who have evolved out of scum. Torture is a violation of everything America stands for. That you don't see that is truly disgusting.

I'm tempted to say fuck you but you've taken care of that yourself. Cowards die many times before their deaths......

Way to ignore the question.

How do you think it's affecting that recently captured army private? Do you think his captors have any qualms about torturing him? especially now when they know that we torture their brothers? Zero effect bullshit. Not for you sitting in your underwear on a Saturday afternoon because you don't give 2 shits about that private as long as you are "safe".

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
How do you think it's affecting that recently captured army private? Do you think his captors have any qualms about torturing him? especially now when they know that we torture their brothers? Zero effect bullshit. Not for you sitting in your underwear on a Saturday afternoon because you don't give 2 shits about that private as long as you are "safe".

I don't think they had any qualms about torturing him, regardless of our policy. The whole "if we don't torture, then insane islamic terrorists who will behead journalists but won't torture soldiers" is completely preposterous.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
It probably does look like liberalism has overextended yourself if you listen to talk radio, luckily no one gives a shit what they or their listeners think outside of their own little outraged world they made for themselves.

Outrage gives people who feel worthless a sense of importance and meaning.

People I find who are addicted to outrage at others regularly either have no life or cannot deal with their own.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: alchemize

The real issue is, Obama, while running for change, has no real change in mind. Just a different flavor of kool aid. I'm glad you like grape better than cherry.

Or perhaps you're one of those "we're just not spending enough money, waging wars in the right places, and spying on the right americans" liberals, and that's what you classify as "handling the bush disaster".

Who you be?

Ah yes, It's Allsurmise with his endless opinions stated as facts. Oh wait, he said 'or perhaps' even if with 'perhaps' the same implication.

But the cases you mention are all a result of Republican disaster. Republicans as you well know are the party of fear thine enemy and kill him first if you can. It is the party of cowards who have no faith in the American legal system and believe only in raw power. It is the party of cowards morons and fools, as it were, but anyway.....

As the Republicans made a demon of Communists and China only a Republican could open that door. Democrats are soft of defense. Say that a million times till you believe it.

So you imbeciles with your irrational fears have put the Democrats in the corner. There is no way any intelligent Democrat is going to allow the Republicans to paint him as soft of defense.

If those issues are important to you and, I know they are not, you just love to point to hypocrisy, then get the Republicans to lead the way. Only Republicans can compromise with the dread monster under the bed.

Name one single, significant policy that is substantially different than Bush's. And you can't use torture (although I would argue torture isn't significant, it's symbolic and effects zero citizens of the US)

We've been over this before. Remember when I named like 6 or 8 things that were substantially different? Iraq, stem cells, environmental issues, etc... etc.... etc.

Remember who you are talking to. You can't reprogram a wind up top.

Still waiting for YOUR answer....

 

[Steeplerot]

double post ftl

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: alchemize
I don't think

You got that right.

 

[moparacer]

especially now when they know that we torture their brothers?

And you think, this all started after it was revealed we were water boarding?

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
It probably does look like liberalism has overextended yourself if you listen to talk radio, luckily no one gives a shit what they or their listeners think outside of their own little outraged world they made for themselves.

Outrage gives people who feel worthless a sense of importance and meaning.

People I find who are addicted to outrage at others regularly either have no life or cannot deal with their own.

So true.

 

[PJABBER]

Are we still talking about liberalism jumping the shark?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: alchemize

The real issue is, Obama, while running for change, has no real change in mind. Just a different flavor of kool aid. I'm glad you like grape better than cherry.

Or perhaps you're one of those "we're just not spending enough money, waging wars in the right places, and spying on the right americans" liberals, and that's what you classify as "handling the bush disaster".

Who you be?

Ah yes, It's Allsurmise with his endless opinions stated as facts. Oh wait, he said 'or perhaps' even if with 'perhaps' the same implication.

But the cases you mention are all a result of Republican disaster. Republicans as you well know are the party of fear thine enemy and kill him first if you can. It is the party of cowards who have no faith in the American legal system and believe only in raw power. It is the party of cowards morons and fools, as it were, but anyway.....

As the Republicans made a demon of Communists and China only a Republican could open that door. Democrats are soft of defense. Say that a million times till you believe it.

So you imbeciles with your irrational fears have put the Democrats in the corner. There is no way any intelligent Democrat is going to allow the Republicans to paint him as soft of defense.

If those issues are important to you and, I know they are not, you just love to point to hypocrisy, then get the Republicans to lead the way. Only Republicans can compromise with the dread monster under the bed.

Name one single, significant policy that is substantially different than Bush's. And you can't use torture (although I would argue torture isn't significant, it's symbolic and effects zero citizens of the US)

We've been over this before. Remember when I named like 6 or 8 things that were substantially different? Iraq, stem cells, environmental issues, etc... etc.... etc.

Remember who you are talking to. You can't reprogram a wind up top.

Still waiting for YOUR answer....

Sorry, I wrote you off the moment I saw you needed to ask. The answer to a fool is silence, but experience teaches us that any other answer, in the long run, has the same effect. Consider this my alternative.

 

[alchemize]

Moonbeam jumped the shark in 2003 when he decided to support Kerry. It's been 6 years since you sold out, time flies, eh buddy?

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: PJABBER

I have never seen a monkey cornered by a tiger that was liberal.

Who are you calling a liberal, the monkey or the tiger?

Neither. I didn't say liberal, I said not liberal. I never saw one that was liberal.

You are saying both the monkey and the tiger are conservatives?

You still have not responded to this important question.

And you STILL have not answered this important question.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Moonbeam jumped the shark in 2003 when he decided to support Kerry. It's been 6 years since you sold out, time flies, eh buddy?

OMG, Moonbeam, say it ain't so!

Are we still waiting on Kerry's signed Standard Form 180 and a chance for the electorate atlarge and the press to access his Navy files? Like Obama's long form birth certificate, are Kerry's original discharge papers, award citations and DD-214 state secrets?

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: alchemize
Moonbeam jumped the shark in 2003 when he decided to support Kerry. It's been 6 years since you sold out, time flies, eh buddy?

OMG, Moonbeam, say it ain't so!

Are we still waiting on Kerry's signed Standard Form 180 giving the electorate and the press access to his Navy files? Like Obama's long form birth certificate, Kerry's original discharge papers and DD-214 are state secrets?

almost half the country supported kerry. Your point? Are you glad bush was in power for 8 years?

 

[PJABBER]

Hmmm. The Bush record vs. a Massachusetts liberal with delusions of grandeur?

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: MrMatt
I've always considered myself a liberal, but with the rise of Obama and his drove of slack-jawed retard followers I'm pretty much a moderate, or slightly liberal moderate at this point. The funny thing is, nowadays if you're a moderate, liberals consider you an extreme conservative, and conservatives consider you an extreme liberal. Our country is too polarized, there's these two extremes, with no happy medium anymore. So yeah, I think liberalism has not only jumped the shark, it's drowning in it's own self-righteous vomit.

QFT

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: PJABBER
Hmmm. The Bush record vs. a Massachusetts liberal with delusions of grandeur?

hmmm redneck neocon fucks afraid of the world?

fyi It was nyc that was attacked not your precious southern plantations. Your white women will be safe from all the black I mean bad people.