Has anyone gone from a Windows 7 machine to an Apple and thought OMG...

[postmortemIA]

I hooked up via VGA a 22" Ultrasharp Widescreen bought in 2008 to my unibody MBP.

At first the MBP couldn't detect its native resolution of 1680x1050 - it didn't show up in display preferences. I googled and found SwitchResX and manually added the resolution (60Hz), but the display still looks horrible. There is a ton of ghosting and text isn't sharp at all.

Taken from Video Cards and Graphics ...

 

[pcgeek11]

My son bought an Apple Mac Book Pro and when he showed it to me I said OMG, you paid twice as much for the same thing you could get in a Windows PC, OMG!

 

[Dominato3r]

I don't know, a part of me wants to buy a Macintosh, but the other half says - DON'T DO IT!

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I don't know, a part of me wants to buy a Macintosh, but the other half says - DON'T DO IT!

If you make more than 60k and aren't facing bankruptcy then go with the former half; otherwise go with the latter half.

 

[dwell]

My son bought an Apple Mac Book Pro and when he showed it to me I said OMG, you paid twice as much for the same thing you could get in a Windows PC, OMG!

After you finish paying for the virus/malware/spyware scanners and system utilities on the PC side the costs about even out

 

[BladeVenom]

After you finish paying for the virus/malware/spyware scanners and system utilities on the PC side the costs about even out

All that can be found for free.

 

[NFS4]

I made the switch personally over a year ago by going from a Lenovo ThinkPad X300 to a 13" MacBook Pro and have never looked back.

A few months after I got my MBP, I bought my wife an Acer Aspire One. Six months into ownership, the power port failed -- I had to send it off to be repaired. A few months later, the Wi-Fi card failed. I was going to go on eBay to get a cheap replacement to fix it myself, then I found out that I basically had to take the whole damn thing apart just to get to the Wi-Fi card. So I said fuck it, and got rid of the thing.

My wife is now using a used 2009-era 13" MacBook Air with a 128GB SSD. I recently traded in my year-old MacBook Pro (the resale value is so crazy high that I nearly sold it for what I paid last year) and bought a brand new 2010 13" MacBook Air (128GB/4GB) and couldn't be happier. It has all the lightness of my old X300 but is much faster.

The only "Windows PC" left in our house is my HP MediaSmart WHS which performs Time Machine backups and stores all of our photos, movies, software installs, etc.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Oh hell yeah, for $5k you could build a system that would make that $6.5k Mac Pro look like a trash bin.

A rather attractive trash bin, I must say......

 

[Ninjahedge]

All that can be found for free.

Unless, of course, you are a typical Mac user and do not know about free apps...


BTW, although it does not play Blu as for as I know, MPC works pretty well with the CCCP codec pack (I know, saying "codec pack" after CCCP is like saying PIN Number.......but whatever).



One little thing to think about guys.

If Dell sells 10X more machines than Apple, in general, how can Apple's profits be more than Dell (forgive me for not having the exact numbers for either).

I remember an article not too long ago siting Apple as the company posting best profits for XXX (maybe it was just notebooks) but NOT posting the most sales by a long shot.

Their profit margin is obnoxious. I have a tolerance for paying what something is worth, but not for what other people will think it is worth when they see you with it.

Vanity should not be a feature in buying a computer........ (Yes, that also applies to Alienware et all on the PC side!)

 

[erikistired]

My son bought an Apple Mac Book Pro and when he showed it to me I said OMG, you paid twice as much for the same thing you could get in a Windows PC, OMG!

old people are funny. my dad still complains about my macbook pro purchase, but he's an old school ibm guy, so it's somewhat ingrained in him to dislike apple.

 

[Acanthus]

Apple claims 3.36m Macs sold (desktop/notebook/etc, excluding ipad/iphone/ipod) in 2009

Global PC sales 2009 = 305.9m units

Dell Market share average for past 5 years for PCs (Desktops/Notebooks/Netbooks/Servers) = 11.5-15.9% (trending lower) = between 35 and 48.6m units sold yearly.

Perhaps with the notably higher cost per unit of Macs vs. Dells, and the lower overseas success to boot, Apples sales $ is a bit higher than their volume share indicates.

In any case, Dell sells about 10-15x more units annually than Apple, which lines up perfectly with what I see in corporate and home environments. For every 10-20 Dells I see, I see a Mac of some sort. Dropping all PCs into the mix, I see maybe a Mac for every 50 PCs.

That sounds accurate, but how well is Apple doing in the $1000+ laptop bracket?

http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-market-for-1000-PCs-says-NPD/1248313624

 

[mrcaffeinex]

I have owned the MacBook Pro listed in my signature for a few years now. I have been running Windows XP Professional on it since the day I purchased it. I had at one point upgraded it to Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit and it performed very well, but I ended up going back to XP to free up some resources for running virtual machines in VMWare, which I do for both work and school.

As for play time, I use it to play World of Warcraft, but from the XP side. For some reason it always gave me better framerates than on Tiger/Leopard/Snow Leopard. It has suffered a bit since Cataclysm came out, but I feel that is mostly the 8600M showing its age. I use it as a media center computer at home watching everything from Netflix to HD videos on my HDTV and it works great.

It is still running all the original hardware, including the battery. The magnetic power adapter is the greatest invention to ever be connected to a laptop, in my opinion. The only real complaint I have is that upgrading the hard drive on my particular model is a chore, which is why I haven't done it. I had several external hard drives anyway...

If I had the money and desire to purchase a new laptop I would definitely be considering another MacBook Pro. I even enjoy using OSX at this point and can honestly say I boot Snow Leopard as often as I boot XP now.

-MrCaffeineX

 

[Dominato3r]

After you finish paying for the virus/malware/spyware scanners and system utilities on the PC side the costs about even out

Isn't MSE free?

 

[bfdd]

Unless, of course, you are a typical Mac user and do not know about free apps...


BTW, although it does not play Blu as for as I know, MPC works pretty well with the CCCP codec pack (I know, saying "codec pack" after CCCP is like saying PIN Number.......but whatever).



One little thing to think about guys.

If Dell sells 10X more machines than Apple, in general, how can Apple's profits be more than Dell (forgive me for not having the exact numbers for either).

I remember an article not too long ago siting Apple as the company posting best profits for XXX (maybe it was just notebooks) but NOT posting the most sales by a long shot.

Their profit margin is obnoxious. I have a tolerance for paying what something is worth, but not for what other people will think it is worth when they see you with it.

Vanity should not be a feature in buying a computer........ (Yes, that also applies to Alienware et all on the PC side!)

Apple makes a shit load of money because they sell shit at a huge mark ups. Their profit margins are ridiculous and they're allowed to get away with it because idiots think they're some how special.

 

[HAL9000]

Apple makes a shit load of money because they sell shit at a huge mark ups. Their profit margins are ridiculous and they're allowed to get away with it because idiots think they're some how special.

OSX is special.

 

[LikeLinus]

That sounds accurate, but how well is Apple doing in the $1000+ laptop bracket?

http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-market-for-1000-PCs-says-NPD/1248313624

NPD’s Stephen Baker had a warning for Apple: the premium segment for computer sales is shrinking.

“They continue to gain share in those segments, but almost all the growth was in under $500 computers, where they don’t play,” Baker told me today. “So at some point they are clearly going to run out of headroom in $1,000-plus, and in the $500-$1,000 segment they are still pretty small. And, of course, if selling prices continue on this path, the ‘premium’ segment is going to be over $500 not over $1,000.”

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

OSX is special.

Step in front of a bus.

 

[HAL9000]

GodlessAstronomer's back! YAY! I hope it's not more insults you silly ah heck...

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Apple makes a shit load of money because they sell shit at a huge mark ups. Their profit margins are ridiculous and they're allowed to get away with it because idiots think they're some how special.

The simplest argument for me is to compare battery life. When running OSX, I get 5-6 hours on my MBP. If I boot into Windows 7, it becomes 2 hours.

I didn't have to tweak anything or configure anything, it just "works."

I was a Windows guy for the longest time, but absolutely enjoy OSX. I've been on a MBP for the past 1.5 years and don't see myself switching.

Yes, Apple has higher profit margins, but that arises from their ability to create *value*. Making a profit is a good thing - it shows the value you create for others, because money is how we exchange value for value. It's a good thing that they make tons of money, it should set an example for how business should be conducted.

 

[Ninjahedge]

GodlessAstronomer's back! YAY! I hope it's not more insults you silly ah heck...

The point of ignoring someone is to ignore them, not to keep responding to them when they post.

You do nothing for your case when you choose to be petty.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Yes, Apple has higher profit margins, but that arises from their ability to create *value*. Making a profit is a good thing - it shows the value you create for others, because money is how we exchange value for value. It's a good thing that they make tons of money, it should set an example for how business should be conducted.

No, it really points out to marketing.

There have been products that are similar in quality and capability to Apple on many occasions, but they figured out the way to make the most money.

Appeal EMOTIONALLY to someone in regards to the electronics they purchase. It makes it easier to make someone happy when they are not comparing actual numbers. When you take the stats out of a computer, you make the semi-technical and non-technical more comfortable around it.

Then you go and make fun of anyone that would not buy your product as some form of social reject (the whole ad series that insulted PC users about 8-10 years ago).

So now you do not control the home computer market, but you can charge a premium over others simply because it appeals to an emotional, rather than technical base.

BOSE would be another example of this. Where other companies list the stats of their equipment, BOSE simply lists how "warm" the sound is and "How it makes you feel".

<3 = $$

 

[HAL9000]

The point of ignoring someone is to ignore them, not to keep responding to them when they post.

You do nothing for your case when you choose to be petty.

- I have no case
- I'm trying to be petty
- I haven't read his posts that's the point of ignoring someone.

 

[HAL9000]

No, it really points out to marketing.

There have been products that are similar in quality and capability to Apple on many occasions, but they figured out the way to make the most money.

Appeal EMOTIONALLY to someone in regards to the electronics they purchase. It makes it easier to make someone happy when they are not comparing actual numbers. When you take the stats out of a computer, you make the semi-technical and non-technical more comfortable around it.

Then you go and make fun of anyone that would not buy your product as some form of social reject (the whole ad series that insulted PC users about 8-10 years ago).

So now you do not control the home computer market, but you can charge a premium over others simply because it appeals to an emotional, rather than technical base.

BOSE would be another example of this. Where other companies list the stats of their equipment, BOSE simply lists how "warm" the sound is and "How it makes you feel".

<3 = $$

I could not agree more about bose, it's just phillips repackaged. But with Apple It is more than just emotional appeal (although there is that to it) it is a preference in terms of operating system (for me).

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

- I have no case
- I'm trying to be petty
- I haven't read his posts that's the point of ignoring someone.

Even on your ignore list I can still get under your skin. Glorious.

 

[MrX8503]

Apple makes a shit load of money because they sell shit at a huge mark ups. Their profit margins are ridiculous and they're allowed to get away with it because idiots think they're some how special.

This is why I bought my MBP

Magnetic Latch
Smooth LCD Hinge (One hand One finger to open lid)
Glass trackpad (Always smooth, never wears out)
Multi Touch trackpad with Inertia
CNC Machined Unibody Aluminum
Edge to Edge Glass display
Rubber Screen Gasket that doubles up as a bumper
Microscopic Drilled holes for the sleep/wake light
.95" Thin even with a disc drive
Magsafe power adapter

On the software end I like both OSX and Win7. Lastly the superior battery life coupled with the features above sealed the deal for me. There isn't another laptop like this in existence, guaranteed. Not in mass production anyway.

Then if you look on the inside everything is precision cut. The ribbon for the hard drive, the mobo to fit the fans and cd drive, the battery is also custom fitted and has a curved bevel to fit inside. This kind of precision is not found in any Windows laptop.

There are people who will pay for these extras cause they don't want a laptop that is a 1.5-2" thick behemoth with plastics galore.