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Has anyone gone from a Windows 7 machine to an Apple and thought OMG...

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dwell said:
That's not true. Apple computers are used abundantly in the creative profession. Just because graphics designers, sound engineers, photographers, etc don't work in banks does not mean they are not professionals who use professional applications.
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Yes, it does. 🙄
 
Both Mac OSX and Windows require some form of maintenance to keep it running quick, but a Windows machine requires a bit more legwork.

When you first start up that brand new Windows laptop what are you greeted with? BLOATWARE. Its actually kind of ridiculous how much bloatware there is. Granted you can remove those items, but you shouldn't have to.

I've owned PCs and built some of my own desktops for a good part of my life and I just bought a MBP a year ago. Its not hard to maintain a windows machine, but those who believe that a Windows machine "just works" are delusional.

Acanthus said:
Maintenance being windows update?

Yeah, that's a rough automatically done while im asleep experience.
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Funny thing, I tried to do a windows update on my desktop and I got errors. Fancy that. I like Win7, but its not as easy to maintain as OSX.
 
MrX8503 said:
When you first start up that brand new Windows laptop what are you greeted with? BLOATWARE. Its actually kind of ridiculous how much bloatware there is. Granted you can remove those items, but you shouldn't have to.
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This is really vendor specific, not anything to do with Windows. A fresh copy of windows runs very fast and requires no upkeep other than windows update, and antivirus if you are going to be accessing questionable sites/files. The fact that a lot of these companies that sell pre-configured PC's and Laptops add all this crap to their new installations isn't MS's fault.
 
lol @ bloatware, it's no where near as bad as it was in yesteryears and has NOTHING to do with Windows so why even bring it up?
 
bfdd said:
lol @ bloatware, it's no where near as bad as it was in yesteryears and has NOTHING to do with Windows so why even bring it up?
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Because you don't have it with Apple computers.

And of course it has something to do with Windows, since most Windows computers come with it. Microsoft could stop vendors from adding it, if they really wanted to.
 
BladeVenom said:
Because you don't have it with Apple computers.

And of course it has something to do with Windows, since most Windows computers come with it. Microsoft could stop vendors from adding it, if they really wanted to.
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It's different, if were comparing vendors then fair enough, but were not were comparing operating systems primarily.
 
MrX8503 said:
I've owned PCs and built some of my own desktops for a good part of my life and I just bought a MBP a year ago. Its not hard to maintain a windows machine, but those who believe that a Windows machine "just works" are delusional.



Funny thing, I tried to do a windows update on my desktop and I got errors. Fancy that. I like Win7, but its not as easy to maintain as OSX.
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I'm still not convinced
 
dwell said:
That's not true. Apple computers are used abundantly in the creative profession. Just because graphics designers, sound engineers, photographers, etc don't work in banks does not mean they are not professionals who use professional applications.
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I've always wondered if OSX is really better for those types of applications, or if it's just the norm so that's what gets used. I would think that given the same applications (like Creative Suite), raw processing power would dictate which machine gets used.

Did Adobe ever release 64-bit CS for OSX?
 
Chaotic42 said:
I've always wondered if OSX is really better for those types of applications, or if it's just the norm so that's what gets used. I would think that given the same applications (like Creative Suite), raw processing power would dictate which machine gets used.

Did Adobe ever release 64-bit CS for OSX?
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In the past when Apple used different hardware and their relationship with Adobe was better they were "better" for those industries. When I was 15 making printing plates for my aunts graphic design company everyone had Apple workstations. Haven't been there for a few years so I'm not sure if they're still running Apples or what, I would guess they are though. Now a days it's rather silly to pay for the Apple premium when there really is no benefit.
 
neckarb said:
It's different, if were comparing vendors then fair enough, but were not were comparing operating systems primarily.
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since apple is the only vendor of apple computers, that's all you CAN compare. apple allows resellers, but not other vendors of apple computers.
 
Chaotic42 said:
I've always wondered if OSX is really better for those types of applications, or if it's just the norm so that's what gets used. I would think that given the same applications (like Creative Suite), raw processing power would dictate which machine gets used.

Did Adobe ever release 64-bit CS for OSX?
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Pros don't want to dick around with their workstations (drivers, AV, etc.) they just want plug-and-play. This is something the PC vendors never got because their thin margins force them to load up PCs with crapware and trials.
 
dwell said:
Pros don't want to dick around with their workstations (drivers, AV, etc.) they just want plug-and-play. This is something the PC vendors never got because their thin margins force them to load up PCs with crapware and trials.
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Pros don't set up their own machines so your argument is a bit irrelevant.
 
dwell said:
Pros don't want to dick around with their workstations (drivers, AV, etc.) they just want plug-and-play. This is something the PC vendors never got because their thin margins force them to load up PCs with crapware and trials.
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Professionals don't buy machines that come with bloatware/crapware. Obviously you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about so please just shut the fuck up. Hell what company do you work for that gives you a computer right off the shelf of Best Buy and doesn't let it go through IT first? Moron.
 
dwell said:
Pros don't want to dick around with their workstations (drivers, AV, etc.) they just want plug-and-play. This is something the PC vendors never got because their thin margins force them to load up PCs with crapware and trials.
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Why are creative professionals any different than non-creative professionals when it comes to the computers they can use? I've never had a job where there was any bloatware on my workstation. Why would a creative professional not be able to get a Windows machine without all of that garbage?
 
bfdd said:
Professionals don't buy machines that come with bloatware/crapware. Obviously you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about so please just shut the fuck up. Hell what company do you work for that gives you a computer right off the shelf of Best Buy and doesn't let it go through IT first? Moron.
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u mad? Heck, the PCs I've seen come out of IT departments are worse than off the shelf at Best Buy. AV up the ass, policies, corporate bloatware. I've worked at several large firms and this has been the case at each.

At least with the Macs there's less IT shitware they can install.
 
dwell said:
u mad? Heck, the PCs I've seen come out of IT departments are worse than off the shelf at Best Buy. AV up the ass, policies, corporate bloatware. I've worked at several large firms and this has been the case at each.

At least with the Macs there's less IT shitware they can install.
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That has nothing to do with Windows or OSX and everything to do with the IT department.
 
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