Has anyone gone from a Windows 7 machine to an Apple and thought OMG...

[HAL9000]

these are the things OSX/apple does well:

trackpads
F3 (splits all the windows up)

everything else is equal or better on windows IMO.

CLI!

 

[WelshBloke]

these are the things OSX/apple does well:

trackpads
F3 (splits all the windows up)

everything else is equal or better on windows IMO.

I effing hate that clicky trackpad. The trackpads great but having to press the whole thing down is stupid.

On my windows laptop I can just tap the trackpad with 1 or 2 fingers for LC/RC, I dont have to press it down.

What Apple does well is put out really, really nice looking laptops.

 

[HAL9000]

I effing hate that clicky trackpad. The trackpads great but having to press the whole thing down is stupid.

On my windows laptop I can just tap the trackpad with 1 or 2 fingers for LC/RC, I dont have to press it down.

What Apple does well is put out really, really nice looking laptops.

On a side note, I'm 2 minutes and 17 seconds into the first misfits episode and I love it, I will have finished S01 by end of the night.

 

[WelshBloke]

On a side note, I'm 2 minutes and 17 seconds into the first misfits episode and I love it, I will have finished S01 by end of the night.

Yeah it just gets better.

 

[bfdd]

Maybe so, but it has constraints, if you've got no good cli, I wont like it. It's also got more problems than I have hairs (alot).

Seriously? That's your argument? Constraints? OSX has ten fold the constraints of Windows, so what the fuck are you talking about?

 

[WelshBloke]

Seriously? That's your argument? Constraints? OSX has ten fold the constraints of Windows, so what the fuck are you talking about?

Hey, leave the guy alone to watch his TV!!



:sneaky:

 

[HAL9000]

Seriously? That's your argument? Constraints? OSX has ten fold the constraints of Windows, so what the fuck are you talking about?

The constraints of OSX are:

Hardware incompatibility (which results in good compatibility with specific hardware and minimises issues)
Lack of games
Incompatibility with the specific video codec listed in this thread.

That is all.

 

[WelshBloke]

The constraints of OSX are:

Hardware incompatibility (which results in good compatibility with specific hardware and minimises issues)
Lack of games
Incompatibility with the specific video codec listed in this thread.

That is all.

The constraints of Windows are?...

Anyway concentrate on Misfits, it really is a good series.

 

[bfdd]

Don't forget less secure. OSX is less secure than Windows 7.

 

[HAL9000]

The constraints of Windows are?...

Anyway concentrate on Misfits, it really is a good series.

The constraints of windows are:

Hardware/ software issues. I.e. Driver problems.
It has a registry...
You have to replace the software it comes with I.e. IE. with Firefox
You need antivirus software to use it.
You need security against addware.
Every windows operating system I have ever used, on every system I've ever used it one has crashed and required a re-install at some point.

 

[HAL9000]

Don't forget less secure. OSX is less secure than Windows 7.

True. but I'm not replying to you anymore until you reply to you reply to my long explination of the retarded argument you were making about software needs to be good for the planet for it to be a smart purchase.

 

[WelshBloke]

The constraints of windows are:

Hardware/ software issues. I.e. Driver problems.
It has a registry...
You have to replace the software it comes with I.e. IE. with Firefox
You need antivirus software to use it.
You need security against addware.
Every windows operating system I have ever used, on every system I've ever used it one has crashed and required a re-install at some point.

See, you were doing ok till you started making shit up.

Its fair enough you like OSX over Windows.
Its fair enough you find it easier.
You cant get away with making up random problems that windows has that Apple OS doesn't.

 

[HAL9000]

See, you were doing ok till you started making shit up.

Its fair enough you like OSX over Windows.
Its fair enough you find it easier.
You cant get away with making up random problems that windows has that Apple OS doesn't.

What did I make up.

P.S. I forgot lack of a propper CLI.

 

[Fenixgoon]

The constraints of windows are:

Hardware/ software issues. I.e. Driver problems.
It has a registry...
You have to replace the software it comes with I.e. IE. with Firefox
You need antivirus software to use it.
You need security against addware.
Every windows operating system I have ever used, on every system I've ever used it one has crashed and required a re-install at some point.

1) apple lacks much hardware support
2) no idea about OSX's file system
3) you have to replace the software that comes with it, i.e. apple works, safari, etc.
4) you should still run antivirus software, lest you be an idiot
5) see above

every apple operating system i have ever used has crashed at some point.

there, apple OS blows too (hell, one of my friends at work, who is a HUGE apple fan, lost all his data when his macbook crashed. and he calls windows unstable. LULZ.)

 

[HAL9000]

1) apple lacks much hardware support
2) no idea about OSX's file system
3) you have to replace the software that comes with it, i.e. apple works, safari, etc.
4) you should still run antivirus software, lest you be an idiot
5) see above

every apple operating system i have ever used has crashed at some point.

there, apple OS blows too (hell, one of my friends at work, who is a HUGE apple fan, lost all his data when his macbook crashed. and he calls windows unstable. LULZ.)

1) That is also a benefit as I mentioned
2) that's not a constraint because you don't know about it
3) Safari works really well on OSX, probably better than FireFox.
4) You really don't need to, the chances of getting a virus are so remote it's un true.
5) This isn't a downside

You've got 3 downsides, the same as the number I listed, but yours had problems.

Mac OS X Doesn't "blow" evidently you know nothing about it so it's abit silly to argue this.

 

[WelshBloke]

What did I make up.

P.S. I forgot lack of a propper CLI.

You don't have to replace any software with Windows, you can replace IE with firefox (or anything else) if you wish)
You do, however, with OSX (see video editing issue above)

You dont need AV/Adware software, although its a good idea to run it, and MS provide it free.

My Win7 system has only crashed when I've overclocked it too high, pretty much like my OSX one(or my ex OSX one)

Why do I need a CLI, I thought you Apple fans were all about the UI?

 

[HAL9000]

You don't have to replace any software with Windows, you can replace IE with firefox (or anything else) if you wish)
You do, however, with OSX (see video editing issue above)

You dont need AV/Adware software, although its a good idea to run it, and MS provide it free.

My Win7 system has only crashed when I've overclocked it too high, pretty much like my OSX one(or my ex OSX one)

Why do I need a CLI, I thought you Apple fans were all about the UI?

You really should replace IE. it sucks. you really should get anti virus, computer will die without it. CLI is the way forward for power users. I'm not a gui person.

 

[erikistired]

erikistired, you call me ignorant? the world would stop in its tracks if windows up and disappeared right this second. linux same, osx no it wouldn't. fucking moron.

yes, you are ignorant. the world doesn't rely on windows. sorry to burst your bubble. as i said, people use whatever is put in front of them. if windows went away and we went back to using dos people would adapt. the world doesn't stop for a front end.

Given that editing AVCHD video is something I ( and a fair amount of others) do, why is Imovie kick ass if it doesn't do this.

It may be good for the things it does do but that's not relevant for the things it doesn't.

If i have to fork out a grand to do something I can do for free in another OS' I cant see much argument for the first one.

because it's a great free movie editing program? it's quite easy to use and apparently you can import your movies straight off the camera? (note, i haven't tried this, just going by a quick search) worst case, you can always convert it. i choose my operating system based on the operating system, because there are always ways to do most anything on any of them. i happen to like working in os x, almost as much as windows 7, so i would simply find a way to make it do whatever i needed to do. there was a point you couldn't watch dvds in windows without purchasing a program to do it, nobody dropped windows because of it.

I think his point is OSX is fine for dicking around but most people will have to use something else as well, whereas if you use windows (or linux?) you can do everything there.

the problem is that it's not a toy, and most people don't have to use anything else. you don't HAVE to use windows to do what you want, it's just easier to edit avchd video on windows. it's a very powerful operating system, hell, it's based on unix. bfdd is just trolling, quite obviously.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Windows has no CLI? Excuse me? Ever heard of Powershell? A CLI with the power of the .NET framework. And all Windows power users should have Cygwin installed.

 

[WelshBloke]

You really should replace IE. it sucks. you really should get anti virus, computer will die without it. CLI is the way forward for power users. I'm not a gui person.

Why not use Linux then?

IE9 is fine, its fast and pretty robust, its only drawback is free addblocking.

Everyone should use AV, it uses up minimal resources and you can get it for free, I don't see the issue.

I get the feeling you're someone that hasn't run windows in a long time, remember os9 and lower were pretty crap.

 

[HAL9000]

Why not use Linux then?

IE9 is fine, its fast and pretty robust, its only drawback is free addblocking.

Everyone should use AV, it uses up minimal resources and you can get it for free, I don't see the issue.

I get the feeling you're someone that hasn't run windows in a long time, remember os9 and lower were pretty crap.

I started OSX when Vista hit, I use linux all the time and love it, but when it comes to needing a gui, for browsing the web and all I use OSX, for me it's like the perfect Linux distro.

 

[WelshBloke]

I started OSX when Vista hit, I use linux all the time and love it, but when it comes to needing a gui, for browsing the web and all I use OSX, for me it's like the perfect Linux distro.

Browsing the web doesn't work under Linux?

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Browsing the web doesn't work under Linux?

Why do you bother arguing with necktard? He's an obvious troll and not smart to boot.

 

[Crono]

I started OSX when Vista hit, I use linux all the time and love it, but when it comes to needing a gui, for browsing the web and all I use OSX, for me it's like the perfect Linux distro.

No wonder you like OSX so much.

Vista was a piece of crap at launch. Windows 7 has been much smoother.

Anyway, OSX is good but I don't see the point in arguing over which is the better OS now. They've both copied each other so much and adapted their features to accommodate most users. No OS "wins" in every single category. Just use whichever OS works for you. Or multiboot/run VMs and use them all

 

[WelshBloke]

Why do you bother arguing with necktard? He's an obvious troll and not smart to boot.

I'm a look for the good side type of guy.