Has anyone else noticed pizza quality has hit rock bottom?

[Fritzo]

from wiki:
In 2001, Chipotle released a mission statement called Food With Integrity, which highlighted Chipotle's efforts to increase their use of naturally raised meat, organic produce, and dairy without added hormones.[3] All of Chipotle's pork is naturally raised – defined by the company as open-range, antibiotic free, and with a vegetarian diet – as well as 80% of its chicken and 85% of the beef (100% of the barabacoa served is from naturally-raised beef). The company formerly served 100% natural chicken, but demand exceeded supply.[48] Approximately 40% of the beans are organically grown.[49] In 2009, Chipotle planned to serve over 60 million pounds (27 million kilograms) of naturally raised meat, more than any other restaurant company,[50] and plans to use 75 million pounds in 2010.[48] The company pledges to use more local produce when possible,[51][52] using "35 percent of at least one of its produce items for every restaurant sourced from small and midsize local farms throughout the growing season" in 2009,[3] and increasing to 50% in 2010.[53] Chipotle advertises its support of family farms, such as Niman Ranch, a California "natural" meat producer that contracts with farms in the Midwest to raise pork and other livestock.[54] All of the cheese and sour cream comes from cows that do not receive recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH), and 30% of the dairy comes from open pasture cows.[55] Founder Steve Ells has testified before Congress in support of the Preservation of Antibiotics for Medical Treatment Act, which aims to reduce the amount of hormones given to farm animals.[56][25]




Chipotle is probably not for those trying to lose weight but I would consider it healthy the same way that roast beef I make at my house with mashed potatoes from scratch is. It is a perfectly healthy food. My definition of healthy is free of preservatives and processing.

Subway uses cold cuts from who knows where. The obviously don't cook their chicken on premises They do not make their meatballs (other than heat) on premises either. Their bread and veggies are probably fine. How is that the same as chipotle? That said I would eat their tuna because tuna is tuna.

I am not really familiar with Del Taco but if they are like Taco Bell than I doubt it.

I lift weights and eat unprocessed/high protein foods 6/7 days of the week. Chipotle is a great place to eat if you get the right thing:

Get a burrito bowl, no rice, but pinto and black beans, chicken, salsa, cheese, and guacamole, and make it two meals.

That thing is nearly 60g of protein, full of omega-3 fats, 25g of fiber, and 725 calories. Divided into two meals (the things are huge anyway) and you've got a great muscle building meal.

 

[Wyndru]

FTFY

 

[IceBergSLiM]

I'm sure you can figure this out if you think hard enough. Give it a try.

 

[DrPizza]

This.

I just make my own now, with the doughballs you get from the refrigerated isle at the supermarket and a pizza stone.

Then I can put a ton of toppings on it, and it still ends up being under $5.

Shens, unless it's a tiny pizza. Shredded mozzarella runs around $4 a pound, and it takes roughly a pound to make a decent 16" pizza. So, you've already got $4 wrapped up in cheese alone, not to mention the sauce and dough. You're over $5 for a 16" pizza before you add a single other topping.

 

[Craig234]

airlines have "food"??!!😱

People might not know you used to get gourmet meals served with fine crystal and such in first class. Nice wine, nice steak, and so on.

Of course, it cost a fortune to fly. You can still get decent food in first class on longer flights. I suspect foreign airlines are best, but here's a US meal:

 

[NatePo717]

I only get pizza from Sal's. Best damn pizza place around. $10 for a 19" 3lb. cheese pizza? Thick chewy crust with plenty of sauce and cheese. Yes please! *drool*

 

[Craig234]

Be happy you're not stuck in California's bay area. Pizza here is generally terrible, chain or no, at least compared to the New York pies I'm used to - every time I head back out East I tend to stuff my face with as much pizza as possible. Every other block there's an Italian deli or restaurant that does pizza better than anyplace I've been to out West.

More on topic, chain pizza sucks, etc.

You're wrong. Unless you simply hate anything because of the location.

I was thinking of giving you a list of some good ones, and that quickly turned into a 'top 20' and then that's not enough.

So instead, here's just one link with some pointers, but you can google many more.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Bay-Area-Home-to-Some-of-the-Nations-Best-Pizza-116920223.html

 

[Craig234]

I only get pizza from Sal's. Best damn pizza place around. $10 for a 19" 3lb. cheese pizza? Thick chewy crust with plenty of sauce and cheese. Yes please! *drool*

Having no idea what state you are in...

 

[GTSRguy]

Exhibit A: The modern consumer wants dirt cheap food. The rise of the "Value Menu".

Exhibit B: The rise of the rising self bake pizza available at your local grocery for $5.50.

I get my pizza walmart on sale $3.33

So when i buy 2 (which i usually do) its $6.66

The other super cheap route is Cici's pizza. All you can eat shit pizza for like $5.00, ok its not the best pizza but its not bad.

 

[Wyndru]

Shens, unless it's a tiny pizza. Shredded mozzarella runs around $4 a pound, and it takes roughly a pound to make a decent 16" pizza. So, you've already got $4 wrapped up in cheese alone, not to mention the sauce and dough. You're over $5 for a 16" pizza before you add a single other topping.

In 2010 when I posted this it was. Now it's $6. :awe:

 

[Fritzo]

i get my pizza walmart on sale $3.33

so when i buy 2 (which i usually do) its $6.66

the other super cheap route is cici's pizza. All you can eat shit pizza for like $5.00, ok its not the best pizza but its not bad.

satanic pizza

 

[shortylickens]

Aww....someone's having a problem finding the right words again.

Check the dates.
Then slap yourself.













:awe:

 

[ElFenix]

People might not know you used to get gourmet meals served with fine crystal and such in first class. Nice wine, nice steak, and so on.

Of course, it cost a fortune to fly. You can still get decent food in first class on longer flights. I suspect foreign airlines are best, but here's a US meal:

still pissed off i got bumped from first last month.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Sheesh. I make my own pie:

1) Put pizza stone in oven. Preheat to 500F.
2) I use a Boboli THIN CUT WHEAT crust as my base.
3) Smash about 3-4 garlic cloves and add this to about a 1/3 cup of extra virgin olive oil. In addition, add (to taste) salt and pepper, oregano, crushed red pepper, paprika, and fresh basil paste. Stir the resulting mixture.
4) Pour mixture evenly onto crust.
5) Slice 1-2 vine-ripe tomatoes into 1/4 inch (or smaller) slices. Arrange pizza crust with tomato slices in a circular pattern.
6) Place about 15-30 black olive halves in a random pattern on tomato slices.
7) Repeat previous with julienne-cut sun-dried tomato pieces.
8) OPTIONAL: Slice thin pieces of your favorite cooked sausage and/or salami and add this to the bed of tomato slices as well. I personally like to use organic chicken sausage.
9) Grate your favorite assortment of cheeses, such as parmesan and/or mozzarella.
10) Place into oven onto pizza stone. REDUCE heat to 350F.
11) Allow to cook for 20-30 minutes or until cheese is nice and brown and bubbly.

Excluding shopping time, I am sure you can do the above in the time it takes you to order and wait for Pizza Hut, not to mention the above would be much healthier.

 

[spidey07]

Ahh, Wicks is the bomb. Mighty Meaty for the fucking win! Nothing better than a big pizza with about 4 dead animals on it.

It's pricey, but DAMN it's worth it. To this day I've never had a better pizza.

The Big Wick...

 

[bfdd]

Exhibit A: The modern consumer wants dirt cheap food. The rise of the "Value Menu".

Exhibit B: The rise of the rising self bake pizza available at your local grocery for $5.50.

Food 4 Less has some awesome self bake pizzas for like 7 bucks. Better than anything I can get delivered for the same price.

 

[davmat787]

Sheesh. I make my own pie:

1) Put pizza stone in oven. Preheat to 500F.
2) I use a Boboli THIN CUT WHEAT crust as my base.
3) Smash about 3-4 garlic cloves and add this to about a 1/3 cup of extra virgin olive oil. In addition, add (to taste) salt and pepper, oregano, crushed red pepper, paprika, and fresh basil paste. Stir the resulting mixture.
4) Pour mixture evenly onto crust.
5) Slice 1-2 vine-ripe tomatoes into 1/4 inch (or smaller) slices. Arrange pizza crust with tomato slices in a circular pattern.
6) Place about 15-30 black olive halves in a random pattern on tomato slices.
7) Repeat previous with julienne-cut sun-dried tomato pieces.
8) OPTIONAL: Slice thin pieces of your favorite cooked sausage and/or salami and add this to the bed of tomato slices as well. I personally like to use organic chicken sausage.
9) Grate your favorite assortment of cheeses, such as parmesan and/or mozzarella.
10) Place into oven onto pizza stone. REDUCE heat to 350F.
11) Allow to cook for 20-30 minutes or until cheese is nice and brown and bubbly.

Excluding shopping time, I am sure you can do the above in the time it takes you to order and wait for Pizza Hut, not to mention the above would be much healthier.

This is pretty much what I do. I find using a pizza stone really helps, and Boboli is good enough when you don't want to mess with real dough. The pizza I make this way is considerably better than pizza hut, dominoes, etc according to everyone who has had it. Very easy to make, and well worth it. You just can't beat fresh ingredients. I can usually have the pizza prepped by the time the oven finishes heating up.

The other key is to broil the top of the pizza for a minute or so at the end to make the cheese and meats finish properly. You have to watch it so you don't burn it.

 

[blinblue]

Shens, unless it's a tiny pizza. Shredded mozzarella runs around $4 a pound, and it takes roughly a pound to make a decent 16" pizza. So, you've already got $4 wrapped up in cheese alone, not to mention the sauce and dough. You're over $5 for a 16" pizza before you add a single other topping.

Shredded mozzarella cheese can be had cheaper than that. Costco has a 5lb bag for $10 or a 2lb block for $5 (pretty sure those are the prices)

Nothing beats a good homemade pizza. Im on a flight to seattle to my parents house and they have a brick pizza oven and im excited to stuff my face with yummy food

 

[ponyo]

I don't understand people who make their own pizza at home yet use store bought dough for crust. Why? I mean why go through all the trouble of topping your own pie and not make the dough? Making dough and sauce are about as easy as it gets when it comes to cooking. You might as well just order from a pizza joint if you're just topping pizza. They let you choose your toppings.

 

[KeithP]

Quit buying mass market chain pizza and find a local place making good pies. If they start loosing sales, the chains will improve.

-KeithP

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'm not too picky with pizza, it's pizza, how can pizza be bad?

We just got a Dominos here not too long ago, it's cool to be able to order online. This is something that before, was only seen in movies, now we can actually do it. They should all be like that imo.

 

[spidey07]

I'm not too picky with pizza, it's pizza, how can pizza be bad?

We just got a Dominos here not too long ago, it's cool to be able to order online. This is something that before, was only seen in movies, now we can actually do it. They should all be like that imo.

They are.

 

[IGemini]

There's a place across the pond that has some really great stone-hearth pizza, with a different special each month. Their BBQ chicken pizza is plain awesome...tasty sauce and they use gouda. :awe: They even have the best take-out idea, can be cooked at home on one's own pizza stone, tastes like it just came out of their oven.

 

[Red Squirrel]

They are.

Maybe in the big cities but not here. I don't really get why not though, it's not like the concept is space age technology or anything. :awe:

 

[Rudee]

Has anyone else noticed the sheer amount of people who bitch about pizza on these forums?

this.