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Budman

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Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
hey bud. Thanks for the reply. Here is a "CPUZ" shot

http://members.cox.net/ksufan/desktop.JPG

But...no one has answered my question. HAS AMD RELEASED A STATEMENT REGARDING THE GAMING PROBLEMS?

How gay. :brokenheart:
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batmanuel

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Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
LOL..if you notice, those guys are KU football players. I am a KSU fan.

Yeah, but their poses in that pic are teh ghey. Not only does the guy in the middle have a serious O-face going on, but he looks like he's playing grab-arse with the guy on the left. The fact that the pics are on his hompage at Cox.net adds even more unintended humor.

 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Not to hijack the thread but Duvie or other gentlemen and gentleladies; I have a question. This thread appears headed for the crapper anyway. I have my X2 4400+ overclocked to 2640 at 1.49 volts (watercooled and quiet, my God do I love quiet, hell it is quieter than my old AMD XP 2400 system!
Anyway I was wondering if 1.49 volts was an acceptable voltage for my X2 4400+ at 2640. I am 24 hour prime 95 (both cores) stable.

System specs for what they are worth
X2 4400+ at 2640 at 1.49vcore
Patriot 2gigs ram at 205 (9/10 divider) 2.5-2-3-7 1t timing
BFG 7800GTX at 521core 1330 memory
Raptor 74gig
Seasonic 600watt psu
DFI Nforce 4 Ultra SLI motherboard
Sound Blaster Audigy 2
Dell 2405 monitor (I am in love, LOL)

Edit PS. That screen shot of the three leaping men on fatty's screen was ... ... ... ... ... interesting.
 

Dothan

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duvie is still trying to recover from showing himself as a big arsewipe. ban the mods? LOL!

at any rate there are clearly issues with x2 and games. no point denying it.

ps Fatty your KSU pictures gave me a real laugh, are you gay?
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Da troll lives! Da troll lives! You make me smile in gentle amusement at your condescending bombast of Intel market speak as you resolutedly attempt to bolster your ego at the expense of creating tension in others by deliberately posting emotion producing errr posts. Namaste my fine friend, Namaste.
 

Hacp

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Fatty, let me ask you this. If you pop in a video card, and don't install any drivers, do you expect to play the latest games at high settings without problems???????

How about your latest sound card? Do you expect to pop in your Creative Fatality and get great sound without installing drivers?

Same thing with the X2. If you install an X2 and have no drivers, your being irresponsible.
 

Gamingphreek

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Can you prove that this is a problem with only the X2's. As Duvie mentioned earlier, this could easily be a problem with all dual core CPU's. Im no OS expert but couldn't this "problem" (I still think a lot of it is exaggerated and made up) be with the excellet, the ever efficient.... WINDOWS SCHEDULER. That has given a lot of problems before, who is to say that it isn't at fault right now?

Hacp. CPU's should not require drivers. Evidently AMD saw something wrong and scrambled and released something to fix it.

-Kevin
 

Viditor

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at any rate there are clearly issues with x2 and games. no point denying it

Absolutely...the issues are that games are better played on an AMD dualcore than an Intel one.
Thanks for pointing that out Dothan!
 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Can you prove that this is a problem with only the X2's. As Duvie mentioned earlier, this could easily be a problem with all dual core CPU's. Im no OS expert but couldn't this "problem" (I still think a lot of it is exaggerated and made up) be with the excellet, the ever efficient.... WINDOWS SCHEDULER. That has given a lot of problems before, who is to say that it isn't at fault right now?

Hacp. CPU's should not require drivers. Evidently AMD saw something wrong and scrambled and released something to fix it.

-Kevin


Obvoiusly I knwo that CPuz don't require drivers. But its like a game patch. AMD saw that people did'nt know how to set affinity with games, so they just decided to patch it up.
 

Gamingphreek

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Even on dual processor systems you shouldn't have to set the affinity. My dad did on his 2.4C because he thought it would do something. It doesn't. The game isn't multi-threaded in the first place. Because of that all setting the affinity does is prevent the other core (or virtual core) from trying to help in executing the program.

If the app was multi-threaded, then it would lock it to 1 processor, thereby freeing the other one up for other apps and system programs.

That is my understanding of it.

-Kevin
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: AMDrulZ
it's most likely a driver issue or OS issue NOT the X2 AMD might not be Intel but they Test there cpu's extensively and they will not release a buggy CPU like intel has done several times.

No, it's most likely a problem between the keyboard and the chair.
 

Viditor

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Even on dual processor systems you shouldn't have to set the affinity. My dad did on his 2.4C because he thought it would do something. It doesn't. The game isn't multi-threaded in the first place. Because of that all setting the affinity does is prevent the other core (or virtual core) from trying to help in executing the program.

If the app was multi-threaded, then it would lock it to 1 processor, thereby freeing the other one up for other apps and system programs.

That is my understanding of it.

-Kevin

It depends on the game GP...some of them have very sloppy code. The bottom line is that this is an issue that has occured since HT first came out, but is easily resolved. The drivers for processors are automatically installed when you load up your mobo disk, though sometimes they need a later patch.
The reason that AMD has been picked on for this is that (unlike Intel) they have made their newest processors backwards compatible with the older motherboards. Obviously the older mobos didn't ship with an X2 driver in the bundle, so you must go through the process of actually downloading it (as well as the latest bios).
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Even on dual processor systems you shouldn't have to set the affinity. My dad did on his 2.4C because he thought it would do something. It doesn't. The game isn't multi-threaded in the first place. Because of that all setting the affinity does is prevent the other core (or virtual core) from trying to help in executing the program.

If the app was multi-threaded, then it would lock it to 1 processor, thereby freeing the other one up for other apps and system programs.

That is my understanding of it.

-Kevin

It depends on the game GP...some of them have very sloppy code. The bottom line is that this is an issue that has occured since HT first came out, but is easily resolved. The drivers for processors are automatically installed when you load up your mobo disk, though sometimes they need a later patch.
The reason that AMD has been picked on for this is that (unlike Intel) they have made their newest processors backwards compatible with the older motherboards. Obviously the older mobos didn't ship with an X2 driver in the bundle, so you must go through the process of actually downloading it (as well as the latest bios).

While i dont know about the validity of the CPU drivers installing with the chipset drivers.... it does seem like an extremely logical reason concerning what is happening.

-Kevin
 

batmanuel

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Hacp. CPU's should not require drivers. Evidently AMD saw something wrong and scrambled and released something to fix it.

-Kevin


Obvoiusly I knwo that CPuz don't require drivers. But its like a game patch. AMD saw that people did'nt know how to set affinity with games, so they just decided to patch it up.

AMD processor actually often need drivers because they tend to add new processor features faster than Microsoft can put out new OSes with native support for those features. The older Athlon 64s also needed drivers for Cool'N Quiet to work properly, so this isn't a new development by any means.
 

kirbymixmasta

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Guys, why don't we just stop this post here since fatty doesn't seem to be doing anything except, LOL, *rose* whatever. No point in continuing a useless thread when he's obviously trolling.
 

Viditor

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Originally posted by: kirbymixmasta
Guys, why don't we just stop this post here since fatty doesn't seem to be doing anything except, LOL, *rose* whatever. No point in continuing a useless thread when he's obviously trolling.

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Gamingphreek

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Guys this time while he keeps slipping in biased remarks he is posting a valid thread. Trolling in his threads makes you no better than.... well other trolls :p
 
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Just wish they'd send out a "Fix" or somthing like that. Or maybe microsoft can do it?

A fix for what? There are no cpu problems, unless you do something like not installing the drivers.
What do you want fixed?

I love this thread. It's like talking to a badly programmed chatbot.
 

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Originally posted by: Vanden
It's like talking to a badly programmed chatbot.
:laugh: Now that's the funniest thing I've read here in a good while :beer: