has 2k8 Server hyper-v met your VM needs?

[Zargon]

oh sorry 6-8 core, was thinking that many sockets for some reason.

I blame lack of coffee and recovering from a serious network looping issue 😛

 

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oh sorry 6-8 core, was thinking that many sockets for some reason.

I blame lack of coffee and recovering from a serious network looping issue 😛

Good idea. I'm heading out for a coffee myself. Can hardly keep my eyes open this morning.

 

[imagoon]

they have a dedicated hypervisor you can run now

Yes I am aware. It is a Windows 2008R2 standard core install with a hyper-V role. You get the same thing from doing a Standard Core install from the CD. My point from above was I see lots of people throw files / dhcp / dns on the base host not realizing they consumed a license when they did so.

 

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😉

 

[imagoon]

😉

Saved! Having been on the "bad side" of an MS audit... That image is pretty true...

 

[Zargon]

Yes I am aware. It is a Windows 2008R2 standard core install with a hyper-V role. You get the same thing from doing a Standard Core install from the CD. My point from above was I see lots of people throw files / dhcp / dns on the base host not realizing they consumed a license when they did so.

I havent installed it but I thought it was merely a hypervisor now, but I havent installed CORE just standard so I dont know the difference between those

work and renovating my house are keeping me from really playing at home 🙁

 

[imagoon]

I havent installed it but I thought it was merely a hypervisor now, but I havent installed CORE just standard so I dont know the difference between those

work and renovating my house are keeping me from really playing at home 🙁

It truly is just Windows 2008R2 Standard Core with the ability to add roles and features removed.

 

[Zargon]

It truly is just Windows 2008R2 Standard Core with the ability to add roles and features removed.

aaah.

weird. so not near as bare as ESXi's hypervisor

 

[Agamar]

The 4 Virtual machines per Enterprise license applies to VMWare also. Same with the Datacenter unlimited rights.

The key with hyper-V is to be really careful because just adding "DHCP" to the host-os makes that license go from "free" to "1" meaning you can only virtualize 3 instances. Basically the host must do hyper-V only and nothing else to "not count."

No, VMWARE does not come with free MS Server 2008 R2 licenses. If you install Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise (Core or Full), you get the rights to install 4 Windows 2008 R2 server guest VMs on that server (in other words, you speedn ~$2000 for an Enterprise license, and get to install 4 $600 licensed copies of Server 2008 R2 under it)

 

[stash]

It's true VMware doesn't come with Windows licenses, but the 4 VMs per Enterprise license does apply to VMware (or any other hypervisor). You "assign" the Enterprise license to a ESX host.

http://www.vmware.com/pdf/ms_licensing_faqs.pdf

 

[imagoon]

No, VMWARE does not come with free MS Server 2008 R2 licenses. If you install Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise (Core or Full), you get the rights to install 4 Windows 2008 R2 server guest VMs on that server (in other words, you speedn ~$2000 for an Enterprise license, and get to install 4 $600 licensed copies of Server 2008 R2 under it)

Yes.... Hyper-V doesn't come with free Windows licenses either.

It is very simple (for Microsoft at least):

ESXi - Windows 2008R2 Enterprise -> 4 virtual installs
Hyper-v - Windows 2008R2 Enterprise (assuming only hyper-v role. Any other role or feature uses a license -> 4 (or 3) virtual installs.

It gets a bit more hairy because your supposed to license boxes where the instance *could* reside. IE 2 servers need 2 licenses even if you only use 2 virtual instances etc. The only exception they make is for HA operations while licensed hardware has failed.

 

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Yes.... Hyper-V doesn't come with free Windows licenses either.

It is very simple (for Microsoft at least):

ESXi - Windows 2008R2 Enterprise -> 4 virtual installs
Hyper-v - Windows 2008R2 Enterprise (assuming only hyper-v role. Any other role or feature uses a license -> 4 (or 3) virtual installs.

It gets a bit more hairy because your supposed to license boxes where the instance *could* reside. IE 2 servers need 2 licenses even if you only use 2 virtual instances etc. The only exception they make is for HA operations while licensed hardware has failed.

Yeah, another case of MS twisting arms to get people to spring for Datacenter "just in case" they decide to move those VM's around. I don't see why anyone would go with Enterprise anyway, unless it's a very small company with a single server and they're absolutely positive they won't need more than a few VM's for the foreseeable future, in which case SBS is probably a better solution.