Patranus
Diamond Member
Play nice now.
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Harris Poll - Scary Republican results
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Play nice now.
You forget, Thump, that Righties are only semi-rational, at best.
When they're hearing what they want to hear, mere innuendo is proof positive. When they're not, no proof is possible. First and foremost, they believe what they believe because they believe it, use their intellect merely to rationalize what are, in their minds, axiomatic concepts beyond question.
Start with a belief in A, which leads to B, which leads to C... most Righties are somewhere near the letter Z in this chain... 30 years of well formulated propaganda have seen to that.
What if A isn't true? They can't possibly even consider that because it'd shatter their worldview, and their self esteem along with it. Denial is their only answer. The stronger the stimulus to re-evaluate, the stronger and more violent the denial, the wilder and more desperate the justifications for it become. The most reactionary among them are truly beyond redemption, because their emotional investment in lies effectively prevents rationality.
When they're hearing what they want to hear, mere innuendo is proof positive. When they're not, no proof is possible. First and foremost, they believe what they believe because they believe it, use their intellect merely to rationalize what are, in their minds, axiomatic concepts beyond question.
Start with a belief in A, which leads to B, which leads to C... most Righties are somewhere near the letter Z in this chain... 30 years of well formulated propaganda have seen to that.
What if A isn't true? They can't possibly even consider that because it'd shatter their worldview, and their self esteem along with it. Denial is their only answer. The stronger the stimulus to re-evaluate, the stronger and more violent the denial, the wilder and more desperate the justifications for it become. The most reactionary among them are truly beyond redemption, because their emotional investment in lies effectively prevents rationality.
Thanks for proving my point. :awe:
Corn
Diamond Member
Fixed that for you.
You're soo clever, Corn, in a snide and vacuous sort of way.
57% think Obama is Muslim
48% think Obama wasn't born in the US
38% think Obama is doing the same things Hitler did
24% think Obama is the "Anti-Christ"
When that's the truth according to the republican base, it's obviously necessary to engage in some cutesy denial of your own, right?
57% think Obama is Muslim
48% think Obama wasn't born in the US
38% think Obama is doing the same things Hitler did
24% think Obama is the "Anti-Christ"
When that's the truth according to the republican base, it's obviously necessary to engage in some cutesy denial of your own, right?
I blame Fox News. It has a strong republican bias, which is ok, but it does that through blatant lying and misleading people. It's disgusting.
Believe it or not, Fox News actually has less credibility than a comedy show.
Daily Show and Colbert Report viewers are more informed than Fox News viewers
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/19/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/
This link has a bunch of links to instances where Fox news was full of shit.
http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberalViewer#grid/user/A3BD2524FE99BD4D
LiberalViewer is a youtube user who keeps track of Fox News bullshit and posts videos of it.
Atreus21
Lifer
shira
Diamond Member
So you're claiming the beliefs explored by the poll are correct?
Obviously.
Jaskalas
Lifer
at some point,the GOP and it's mindless zealots stopped caring if what they were saying was true - listen to the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush, and the talking-point repeating bunch of GOP Senators/Sheep we have now
I'm not surprised at these poll results to be honest.
yes, the 'left' has it's own annoying people like Olberman - but at least he doesn't blatantly, intentionally ignore the truth like Rush and his cronies - and you fanboys eat it up
I'm not surprised at these poll results to be honest.
yes, the 'left' has it's own annoying people like Olberman - but at least he doesn't blatantly, intentionally ignore the truth like Rush and his cronies - and you fanboys eat it up
GodlessAstronomer
Lifer
Would you shut up? We're trying to have a circle jerk here.
Noobtastic
Banned
Obama is obviously a closet marxist.
this is very obvious.
this is very obvious.
Yeh, but the repub base has unshakable faith in what they believe, and that's all that matters to them. They believe government is bad, for example, so they elect people to run it who hate it and seek to exploit it, "proving" what they believed in the first place...
Nifty, huh?
Fox News has credibility. True story :awe:
99.999999999345% of Americans are closet communists. Try to take away Medicare and watch how many old people try to murder you.
"I'll kill whichever young whipper snapper took my communist medicare and social security!"
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GodlessAstronomer
Lifer
What on Earth for? Because they don't like him/his policies? How ridiculous.
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nonlnear
Platinum Member
They just love Joe Biden that much!
zinfamous
No Lifer
Bush was arguably closer to fascism than Obama is to communism (the fascism link to Obama is a joke)
the only other thing I would say is that Cheney is certainly the anti Christ; not Bush 😛
the rest is just silly. ....but believing that Bush is a Texan is also laughable. He's a northeastern yuppie boy.
zinfamous
No Lifer
Claiming that Obama is not a Christian b/c of what Rev Wright believes is well...mind-numbingly stupid.
I don't know any easier way to say this. But you have absolutely no credibility, trying to make such an illogical, laughable connection like that.
GarfieldtheCat
Diamond Member
So the fact that about 30% of the US believes these ideas, when they are clearly and factually wrong, doesn't bother anyone?
These are the people that vote and elect officials. How on earth would we expect to get decent politicians elected, when they can make up anything they want, and 30% or more of people will believe them <insert PT Barnum comment about a sucker born every minute>.
What effect will this stupidity have on our country long-term?
These are the people that vote and elect officials. How on earth would we expect to get decent politicians elected, when they can make up anything they want, and 30% or more of people will believe them <insert PT Barnum comment about a sucker born every minute>.
What effect will this stupidity have on our country long-term?
jackschmittusa
Diamond Member
No one seems to mention what appears to be an obvious truth to me, that the Republicans and Fox have chosen to target a large segment of people who are predisposed to strong beliefs requiring no proof or rational thought. Namely those who feel that their religious beliefs can never be questioned or threatened.
For example, I believe that those who deny evolution do so strictly because of religious beliefs and willfully exempt themselves from considering facts and analytical thinking. Since they seem to be so comfortable with such a relationship with reality, why should their political considerations be any different? This makes them a prime target for lies and deception since facts and logic play no role in their assumptions. I believe many have recognized this and have successfully exploited it.
For example, I believe that those who deny evolution do so strictly because of religious beliefs and willfully exempt themselves from considering facts and analytical thinking. Since they seem to be so comfortable with such a relationship with reality, why should their political considerations be any different? This makes them a prime target for lies and deception since facts and logic play no role in their assumptions. I believe many have recognized this and have successfully exploited it.
heyheybooboo
Diamond Member
Don't forget the Fundie TV preachers.
Jack Van Impe spends 1/3 of his broadcast on "... The Socialist Obama, Dictator of the New World Order ... "
It's almost like the Harris Poll was taken directly from one of his scripts. We call 'em Wing Nuts; the Cons call them their base.
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Red Dawn
Elite Member
And you're a closet SS Storm Trooper here on this site pretending to be a Jew to give them a bad name. That's about as obvious as Obama being a closet Marxist
GodlessAstronomer
Lifer
To be fair I think most people aren't really convinced of the veracity of the poll. I'm skeptical myself, and I'm well aware of how far the right wingers have fallen off the deep end recently.
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