Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill?

[Brainonska511]

Very simple. You don't change things to make one fringe group or another happy, and you don't change things to tick off one group or another. You change something when it makes logical sense to do so.

Women and minorities are fringe groups? We've changed the faces on our currency since the beginning to honor important people in american history. Why is it a big deal to restart that tradition?

 

[PokerGuy]

Women and minorities are fringe groups?

The SJW's are fringe groups, claiming to represent larger segments of the population. The SJW's are the ones pushing this useless change.

We've changed the faces on our currency since the beginning to honor important people in american history. Why is it a big deal to restart that tradition?

I don't have a problem with a change, nor do I have a problem with many of the choices people have suggested. I just don't see a particular need to make a change to who is already on the currency. Reagan would look great on the $20 though

 

[mindmajick]

The SJW's are fringe groups, claiming to represent larger segments of the population. The SJW's are the ones pushing this useless change.



I don't have a problem with a change, nor do I have a problem with many of the choices people have suggested. I just don't see a particular need to make a change to who is already on the currency. Reagan would look great on the $20 though

Ah yes... Saint Reagan.

The man who pushes the way for big government and the patriot act. He had lots of great quotes (lies) though.

This article is relevant to the OP and My statement for this who don't know Reagan's real history:
http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/12/ronald-reagan-big-government-legacy

Usually not a fan of mother Jones since its a VERY biased site, but in this case the information is irrefutable

Edit: here's an "executive order". Remember how obama got slammed on these? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...eagan-era-executive-order-led-to-mass-spying/

Edit2: i hate being a conservative when my fellows are insane and misinformed

 

[CitizenKain]

The SJW's are fringe groups, claiming to represent larger segments of the population. The SJW's are the ones pushing this useless change.



I don't have a problem with a change, nor do I have a problem with many of the choices people have suggested. I just don't see a particular need to make a change to who is already on the currency. Reagan would look great on the $20 though

The only paper Reagan deserves to be on is toilet paper. It better represents what kind of person he was.

 

[Jaskalas]

I stand for the tradition of Presidents only on our currency.

 

[PokerGuy]

Ah yes... Saint Reagan.

The man who pushes the way for big government and the patriot act. He had lots of great quotes (lies) though.

This article is relevant to the OP and My statement for this who don't know Reagan's real history:
http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/12/ronald-reagan-big-government-legacy

Usually not a fan of mother Jones since its a VERY biased site, but in this case the information is irrefutable

Edit: here's an "executive order". Remember how obama got slammed on these? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...eagan-era-executive-order-led-to-mass-spying/

Apparently you missed the "" right next to my comment about saint Reagan?

Reagan did some very good and some very bad things. He was lightyears better as a leader than what we've had for the past 20 years, but he was certainly not without his faults.

 

[Brainonska511]

I stand for the tradition of Presidents only on our currency.

Presidents like Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton?

 

[mindmajick]

Apparently you missed the "" right next to my comment about saint Reagan?

Reagan did some very good and some very bad things. He was lightyears better as a leader than what we've had for the past 20 years, but he was certainly not without his faults.

I saw it.. My rant wasn't quite directed at you.. Just directed outward.

But you are correct. Like EVERY president Reagan did good and bad things.

Carter accomplished a lot more good than most people, left or right, give him credit for. Unfortunately, his presidency was overshadowed by the first oil crisis which he helped create.

But small government will never equal- giant NSA, CIA and military. Blows my mind all my fellow "small government" advocates are constantly asking for more war.

AND WHO CARES WHO'S ON THE $$ AS LONG AS IT STILL SPENDS! that's the real American way.

 

[norseamd]

I stand for the tradition of Presidents only on our currency.

What about the Founding Fathers?

 

[hal2kilo]

I stand for the tradition of Presidents only on our currency.

I always liked President Franklin

 

[zinfamous]

I always liked President Franklin

Hamilton, too.

I'd be down for replacing Wilson on the 100ker with WR Hearst.

 

[norseamd]

The problem with this idea is that we are not a presidency but a democratic republic.

 

[dainthomas]

We should replace Grant on the $50's with William T Sherman, just to give the south a good reminder.

Unveil it at a press conference in Columbia.

 

[PokerGuy]

But small government will never equal- giant NSA, CIA and military.

The truth is that Reagan the public persona, speeches and positions were generally great, but the actions were often very different or even completely opposite of the public position(s). That's for another thread though.

Blows my mind all my fellow "small government" advocates are constantly asking for more war.

"small government" generally refers to governance and oversight within the country, not to the military activity undertaken to (supposedly) keep the country safe and further our strategic interests. You can be for small government and still advocate for wars (think WWII) and a large military needed to keep the country safe. That said, I think our military might too often gets applied to further political or economic goals rather than true strategic and safety concerns.

 

[norseamd]

The truth is that Reagan the public persona, speeches and positions were generally great, but the actions were often very different or even completely opposite of the public position(s). That's for another thread though.

Reagan was about as neoliberal as you could get.

 

[mindmajick]

The truth is that Reagan the public persona, speeches and positions were generally great, but the actions were often very different or even completely opposite of the public position(s). That's for another thread though.



"small government" generally refers to governance and oversight within the country, not to the military activity undertaken to (supposedly) keep the country safe and further our strategic interests. You can be for small government and still advocate for wars (think WWII) and a large military needed to keep the country safe. That said, I think our military might too often gets applied to further political or economic goals rather than true strategic and safety concerns.

I'm just tired of my fellow conservatives trying to axe social programs that cost practically nothing. Especially when compared to our military and intelligence budgets.

Did you know that 70% of our intelligence spending in 2007 went to "contractng agencies". Yup, mercenaries. We've been using more and more as Obama continues the "more of the same" policies of bush, jr

Edit: 1000% agree on military force being overused.

 

[Mani]

Well, its not the only reason, but seeing a bunch of idiot republicans get mad about a black person being on their money is going to be great. Especially a black woman.

Only way it could be better if it was Michelle Obama.

lol

 

[glenn1]

Well, its not the only reason, but seeing a bunch of idiot republicans get mad about a black person being on their money is going to be great. Especially a black woman.

Only way it could be better if it was Michelle Obama.

Pretty sure you can't be alive and on currency. While I don't think most Repubs care much for her husband's political views I don't think they disagree to the level that they want his wife dead.

 

[Jaskalas]

What about the Founding Fathers?

Fine.

Why does Harriet Tubman compare to the founders?

 

[piasabird]

Never heard of her.

 

[piasabird]

Put Rice on there.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Never heard of her.

Hmm, I'm Canadian and know who she was.

educate yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Tubman

 

[zinfamous]

Fine.

Why does Harriet Tubman compare to the founders?

I guess because it is a part of our history that is more or less overlooked in many ways. Not completely, not anymore, obviously, but it seems that the black heroes tend to be more or less reserved for blacks only, in a way--only MLK has a national monument, I think?

I don't honestly care either way, but I can see the argument for adding that history to our currency--it certainly adds a greater weight to it, makes that history far more indelible to common American history, and not just "reserve status" with its one time per year, one section of history class, fields and disciplines devoted to Black History...if that makes any sense.

I can't think of a great argument against doing that, honestly, and I think choosing Douglas or Tubman, or even MLK, if that is indeed a serious discussion, would be fine.

I also can't think of a great reason for keeping Jackson around, much less who would truly raise a stink about it. I mean, I actually always liked the guy, because he was such a hardass and because he threw a raging kegger at the WH the night of his inauguration--he was the first "regular guy" that ever ran for and won the presidency; but he truly was a piece of shit and is responsible for one of the worst moments in our history.

 

[OutHouse]

Who uses cash anymore? I can't remember the last time I had a $20 bill. Of course, I don't frequent the red light district either. :hmm:

i have six 20's in my wallet now. i pay cash as often as i can.

 

[OutHouse]

i would like to see HT on the 20, i remember the report i did on her in the 6th grade and the underground railroad.