Hardwick is added to the list.

[pauldun170]

No, but it's in a locked box and I think one of my dogs buried the key in the back yard.

If you still have a reciept you can still register.
Coupon book has some good coupons in it.

 

[jackstar7]

I had to quote this for the laughs. You are clearly the most biased person in this thread. But of course you can't see that, because of aforementioned bias...

I admit I am biased. No problem with that. My bias is for the victims of abuse.

That something you want to argue against? Please explain the value of doing so.

 

[jackstar7]

I never believed her and I'm a woman.

Cool. Why not?

 

[Younigue]

That was the joke...

Ha, the tables have turned!

Wait I misread that? So very used to men's frightened little egos taking swipes.

 

[Younigue]

If you still have a reciept you can still register.
Coupon book has some good coupons in it.

I'm gonna get my misplaced pride roaring with or with out a penis *taking a large spread stance, puffing my chest out* I pay full price bi*ch! You think I can't?!?!

*my impression is a nod and compliments of my recent interactions with speedy and ya know, several very insecure men spanning the entirety of my life.

 

[pauldun170]

I'm gonna get my misplaced pride roaring with or with out a penis *taking a large spread stance, puffing my chest out* I pay full price bi*ch! You think I can't?!?!

That's stupid.
There is 50% off coupon for a pack of paper towels that expires tommorrow.
You would be foolish to pass on those savings

 

[Younigue]

Cool. Why not?

Well, and you're not going to like my answer, just preparing you now... Just my feelings, instincts on it. Her words read to me like a person with regrets about who she once was but has also skewed her own perspective of herself a bit to shed blame.

You're welcome to tear me apart over this but I won't change my mind.

 

[Younigue]

That's stupid

Now you're getting it!

There is 50% off coupon for a pack of paper towels that expires tommorrow.
You would be foolish to pass on those savings

I thought I might just stand in a crowd somewhere and hope Trump might throw some at me. FREE is better than 50% off by my masculine math!

 

[pauldun170]

Now you're getting it!



I thought I might just stand in a crowd somewhere and hope Trump might throw some at me. FREE is better than 50% off by my masculine math!

Well, if you are not going to take advantage of the coupon book then it should be pointed out that there is a 95% off sale on "Hardwick is a POS" t-shirts on Amazon.

 

[realibrad]

Wait I misread that? So very used to men's frightened little egos taking swipes.

BB grl, my ego has never met anything that can dent it.

 

[cytg111]

So you're defending the guy because?

You certainly don't have jack shit tangible to call it into question either (so a simple "well its just accusations for now" would have sufficed). I'm not saying you need to be getting pitchforks and calling for him to be castrated or other such idiocy, but you defending him (and your argument about women imposing such rules is) is straight up stupid. Sorry but if you think those rules are typical you're straight fucked in the head. This isn't "don't go out getting drunk with your buddies at strip clubs", this was "you no longer have guy friends, except possibly co-workers, you don't go out with your friends, you don't have pictures of you with other guys in your apartment, you can't take pictures of us". I don't know what women you're around (let alone what group took over your neighborhood), but I've never known a woman that imposed shit like that that was not crazy. And yes, I've known guys that go along with it, and that is not ok either.

Actually I'm calling bullshit that you even fucking read the article, because if you read this and think its fine, then holy fucking shit.



Yeah, totally normal behavior:


Sure, just accusation, but if you're seriously going to defend shit like that as normal, then, sorry, just no, that's fucked up.

I've known guys like that.. assholes I no longer see, also girls... that I no longer date, cause who got time for that. I also knew a guy like that and later it turned out the girlfriend was 100% psycho and had made the entire thing up .. along with a great many other things.. (that broad still owes be $$).. So, to my mind, life is complicated.

 

[Younigue]

Well, if you are not going to take advantage of the coupon book then it should be pointed out that there is a 95% off sale on "Hardwick is a POS" t-shirts on Amazon.

I'm good. I like that piece of shit insecure basstid.

 

[Younigue]

BB grl, my ego has never met anything that can dent it.

Mine either. Though some have tried. The last guy for his efforts wound up having a billiards hall full of people throwing paper airplanes at him at my request. He's one of my dearest friends now.

 

[jackstar7]

Well, and you're not going to like my answer, just preparing you now... Just my feelings, instincts on it. Her words read to me like a person with regrets about who she once was but has also skewed her own perspective of herself a bit to shed blame.

You're welcome to tear me apart over this but I won't change my mind.

Feelings. Got it.

 

[Younigue]

Feelings. Got it.

So ahh.... Why do you believe her?

 

[96Firebird]

So ahh.... Why do you believe her?

I'll answer for him... His bias.

 

[Younigue]

I'll answer for him... His bias.

Well I think that's not all of it. His bias comes from how the woman's essay made him "feel". Is that correct @jackstar7 ?

 

[jackstar7]

Well I think that's not all of it. His bias comes from how the woman's essay made him "feel". Is that correct @jackstar7 ?

My bias is for victims of abuse. Moreso for those that don't come forward, but might feel emboldened by her story to escape their own situations.

Yep, I'm motivated by my feelings. I'd like to see the culture change away from accepting abuse to not tolerating/rewarding it.

Once again, people want to argue for siding with potential abusers over potential abuse victims, be my guest. I think it's an ugly road, but you can walk it as long as you like. The status quo always appeals to plenty of folks.

 

[child of wonder]

Jackstar is such a good little virtue signaling white knight.

“I’ll save you, m’lady!”

The fact that you refer to the accuser as a “victim of abuse” right out of the gate shows you are heavily biased and don’t care about facts.

AMC investigated, is extremely financially affected if they make the wrong choice, yet STILL brought Hardwick back. That’s a pretty solid indication that this was all smoke and no fire.

 

[Younigue]

My bias is for victims of abuse. Moreso for those that don't come forward, but might feel emboldened by her story to escape their own situations.

Yep, I'm motivated by my feelings. I'd like to see the culture change away from accepting abuse to not tolerating/rewarding it.

Once again, people want to argue for siding with potential abusers over potential abuse victims, be my guest. I think it's an ugly road, but you can walk it as long as you like. The status quo always appeals to plenty of folks.

So, you don't know my history or the degree of outrage I feel about abuse and harassment. But as should be the case each incident should be scrutinized individually regardless of how tempting it is to use wide brush strokes. If Hardwick has a history before and after this woman of abuse we'll hear about it no matter who tries to conver it up.

Insecurities that she opted to accept and live with is not the same as feeling helpless, powerless and psychologically trapped. I absolutely think and fear that some women before they know themselves or who don't know themselves can confuse those things. I think this woman is doing just that. She also may have had sex with him when she didn't want to, ask any woman in a relationship if she wants to have sex every time she has sex with her partner. We sometimes do it to shut y'all up and even ... Wait for it... To gain leverage.

I am against abuse. I am against violence. I am against gaining control over another human being by intimidation, and physical threat and psychological mind-fuckery. I do not think that is the case here.

I think she was an opportunistic girl, living the high life accepting his idiosyncrasies due to his insecurities because the price wasn't a deal breaker for her.

I'm proud of the metoo movement, it's high time. I personally have not met one woman in my life who doesn't have her own experience(s).

Just because you feel righteous and a need to condescend does not make you right in all cases nor does it give you permission to be dismissive of how I choose to move forward and through the battle of equal, safe and fair treatment for all. Just because you feel like you're on the right side of history doesn't automatically put me on the wrong side of it. We have different perspectives. I'm not willing to believe all claims automatically because there are too many whack-a-doodles out there (male and female) and yes, even people willing to mislead or lie.

I don't believe her situation was abuse. Dysfunctional? For sure. I think she no longer likes who she chose to be in that relationship for whatever reasons and she opted to put her process of getting to the other side of it on "paper". I'm not compelled to loath Hardwick on her behalf.

 

[Younigue]

Jackstar is such a good little virtue signaling white knight.

“I’ll save you, m’lady!”

The fact that you refer to the accuser as a “victim of abuse” right out of the gate shows you are heavily biased and don’t care about facts.

AMC investigated, is extremely financially affected if they make the wrong choice, yet STILL brought Hardwick back. That’s a pretty solid indication that this was all smoke and no fire.

Well, not necessarily. Networks make sketchy ass decisions on the regular.

It's been stated previously that Hardwick's wife's family has a financial stake in the network. Often times those things are taken in to consideration when making decisions no matter who will get hurt.

In this however I believe there were enough eyes on it that they were well aware sketchy wouldn't be tolerated. I'm confident they dotted all their i's and crossed all their t's before signing off on Hardwick's continuing employment with them.

 

[jackstar7]

Jackstar is such a good little virtue signaling white knight.

“I’ll save you, m’lady!”

The fact that you refer to the accuser as a “victim of abuse” right out of the gate shows you are heavily biased and don’t care about facts.

AMC investigated, is extremely financially affected if they make the wrong choice, yet STILL brought Hardwick back. That’s a pretty solid indication that this was all smoke and no fire.

I saw the people who had worked with him/for him and said they were not surprised by the awfulness of her story.

I trust those people over a corporation that had a significant investment in him as well as ties to his wife.

I guess we'll see who goes on his shows for how the rest of the world accepts him or not. To be sure my "virtue signaling" self ain't got no impact on his life.

@Younigue You say you don't know one person who doesn't have a story like this, but you doubt/dismiss hers. That's a weird thing to do, no?

 

[Younigue]

I saw the people who had worked with him/for him and said they were not surprised by the awfulness of her story.

I trust those people over a corporation that had a significant investment in him as well as ties to his wife.

I guess we'll see who goes on his shows for how the rest of the world accepts him or not. To be sure my "virtue signaling" self ain't got no impact on his life.

@Younigue You say you don't know one person who doesn't have a story like this, but you doubt/dismiss hers. That's a weird thing to do, no?

No, I said I don't know a woman who hasn't had a metoo experience. I don't believe this was hers.

Also, don't put words in my mouth.

 

[jackstar7]

No, I said I don't know a woman who hasn't had a metoo experience. I don't believe this was hers.

Also, don't put words in my mouth.

It wasn't my intention, but the two things did seem in discord.

I'm not sure why this experience of hers is disqualified.

 

[Younigue]

It wasn't my intention, but the two things did seem in discord.

I'm not sure why this experience of hers is disqualified.

I already told you. You don't like my answer
<--- I even warned you that you wouldn't.

I'm not trying to change your mind jackstar. If you support her that's what you feel you must do.

I'm pleased about the metoo movement but I won't be misled by it either. I have made the choice to take each [public] incident as they come and call on my feels about them.

I also hate that Al Franken was forced to resign. I don't believe he victimized anyone. Aziz Ansari was also mistreated by metoo.