Originally posted by: Alexstarfire
Ok, does the sound actually matter.
Not so much to me, but if its annoying reviewers, and whines like a little hair dryer, I think we can all remember a card with a similar problem? (5800U)
Anyone who can afford to buy one isn't going to use the stock heatsink anyways.
Do you have some proof that all, or even most, X1800XTs buyers are going to void their warranties and go to the work to add Silencers? I doubt this VERY much.
Not to mentin that in the HardOCP article they say that the sound levels are going to vary based on what HSF combinations the card manufacturers put on them.
That remains to be seen. Thus far we've only seen these reference designs.
I hate HardOCP video card reviews, always have and always will, because they don't bench them at the same settings with varying quality.
Well, everyone else does cookie cutter 4X8X reviews so you have plenty of other choices. A lot of people think Hs reviews are the MOST useful because they actually play levels of games and show the performance graph all the way through. It's been shown many times that timedemos can provide a different result than actual gameplay, for a variety of reasons.
Pretty much every other reviewer does it that way.
I do too, because it's easier. Doesn't invalidate his results.
Another things is that playable has a different meanign for everyone. I would hardly have considered a lot of there stuff playable, but that's just me.
That's your opinion, many don't share it. Perhaps you should get a website and make your opinion well known?
I've seen other, better, reviews.
Like I said, your opinion only. What are your credentials to question theirs?
I also don't believe that the HardOCP review takes into accoutn the new Catalyst drivers that make use of the programmable memory controller.
Because of that I believe the X1800XT isn't winning by that much in some reviews, and losing in a select few. Taking both of those things into account makes the X1800XT a far superior card for the moment.
You're wrong about that and should misrepresent this fact to the public if you haven't read the review.
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODc1
ATI sent us a beta version of this driver to use for this review, which contains the same OpenGL fix that will be in Catalyst 5.11. The version we are using is the 8.183 ?OpenGL Fix.? Basically, these drivers are Catalyst 5.11 betas.
I have heard some rather interesting news about the new nVidia card, the 512MB 7800GTX.
Really? What is it and what is your source?
Either way I don't think getting either card is going to be worth it. While the new nVidia card may be better than the X1800XT I still don't think it's worth paying like $600+ for it.
Some people either have more money than you, or choose to spend it differently. It's your opinion only it's "not worth it". You'd be surprised what computer gaming is worht to someone like me.
You can get a brand new 7800 GT for half that price, about $300 after rebates and it's definitely more than half the performance of even the new nVidia card should the rumors be true.
1. The best you can buy is never the best bang for buck, so this isn't exactly news.
2. Some people have the budget and/or inclination to want more than a 7800GT can give them.
3. You don't know what performance the 512 will offer.
EDIT: Wow, after posting on Guru3D so much I forgot my post count here is like nill. Though I don't think it's matters much since a lot of people's posts are probably just bumps for selling stuff anyways, like mine.
Care to elaborate? Are you a nVidia or ATI employee?
In any case, I doubt a "lot of people are". Most of us aren't lucky enough to work at our hobby?