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Happy New Year...Does Time Exist?

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Gintaras

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There is no problem with the Engrish ranguage.

All you have to remember is this: If you can't measure it, it is not real.

You can measure time, therefore it is real.

Clocks and watches do measure so-called human time...If clock or watch does stop, does it mean that time did stop? Or clocks and watches are just a toys in human life?

Mosquitos do live ~3 "human days", do anyone wonder, maybe for moscuitos !3 days is like 100 "human years" - how we look at ourselves...And in Universe are some aliens/life, maybe they do see us - humans same way, like we do look a moscuitos life term? maybe their life term last thousands of "human years"...

Universe is endless... :)
 

Gintaras

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I think you just had a brain aneurysm.

And I do think: to be an idiot might be very good...Idiots don't even know that they're idiots...So, why to wonder about other things...It is an very easy life...
 

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There is no problem with the Engrish ranguage.

All you have to remember is this: If you can't measure it, it is not real.

You can measure time, therefore it is real.

Time exists, the concept of measuring time is man made, but it does not make time itself man made.

Spacetime *is* the measurement of the relationships among real things that exist in external reality.
 

Gintaras

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Calender is human, Time is a function of the universe. :awe:

So, tell, where else besides Earth have you been in Universe?

Calenders? Remember mayan calender that ended in 2012, 12-21-2012?

Well, it was just found another mayan calender, from 2012 to 3005 and it had a note: "Thank You for using our calenders" :)
 

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Lifer
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Clocks and watches do measure so-called human time...If clock or watch does stop, does it mean that time did stop? Or clocks and watches are just a toys in human life?

Clocks measure time, period. Even if there were no humans, and no clocks made by us, time would still exist.
 

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Spacetime *is* the measurement of the relationships among real things that exist in external reality.

Spacetime is not a measurement. Spacetime can be measured using clocks, rulers and other instruments scientists like to play with while the rest of society runs around clueless playing farmville or poasting on failbook.
 

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Lifer
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Spacetime is not a measurement.
Yes, it is. In the future, ask yourself if what you describe of spacetime is also true of longitude and latitude, because ontologically they are equivalent.

Spacetime can be measured using clocks, rulers and other instruments scientists like to play with while the rest of society runs around clueless playing farmville or poasting on failbook.
No. When you put a ruler between two objects, you are relating one measurement to another, and one is simply defined arbitrarily in advance. The space between two points on the ruler *IS* the measurement. You do not measure spacetime, because it is not a thing to which you relate other things. It is rather the collection of relationships among things.
 

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Lifer
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Yes, it is. In the future, ask yourself if what you describe of spacetime is also true of longitude and latitude, because ontologically they are equivalent.


No. When you put a ruler between two objects, you are relating one measurement to another, and one is simply defined arbitrarily in advance. The space between two points on the ruler *IS* the measurement. You do not measure spacetime, because it is not a thing to which you relate other things. It is rather the collection of relationships among things.

Spacetime is actually a thing. You can measure that thing in multiple ways.
 

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Clocks measure time, period.
If I put "period" and the end of a bare assertion, does that establish it as a fact?

Even if there were no humans, and no clocks made by us, time would still exist.
There would exist objects in reality. The abstraction of their relationships among one another would depend on an observer.
 

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Lifer
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Spacetime is actually a thing. You can measure that thing in multiple ways.


I already posted that earlier. Clocks, rulers, lasers (the time it takes photons to travel x distance and bounce back) etc. etc. I won't list them all.

We've proven that spacetime is warped by pointing the hubble bubble telescope at the edge of the sun, seeing stars that were behind it. Because of the curvature of space near the large mass of the sun the photons from the star behind it were seen at it's edge.

I'm paraphrasing but you can look this up on nasa.gov or wherever you like. Just google it.
 

Gintaras

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Are you trolling or serious?

One person living in NY talks to another person living in LA at the same time...If you say "hi", do you need to wait 3 hours for an answer? Between NY and LA is 3 hours of "human time" difference...

We ALL live at the very same time...even human created technologies prove it...No matter where you're - Antarctica, Southpole, Northpole, NYC, Pitcairn Islands, New Zealand...

How can we celebrate a New Year at different times if we all exist at the very same time?
Difference not in hours or minutes, difference in when we see sun or moon....But, on another hand, people living, let's say in Alaska, see sun 1/2 year(human year) Is it right to them? In South Africa now is a summer...If time exist, Why there are two different cycles of the year for people that live at very same time on this planet?

So, what it is: seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years?
 

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Lifer
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I already posted that earlier. Clocks, rulers, lasers (the time it takes photons to travel x distance and bounce back) etc. etc. I won't list them all.
You haven't listed any. Those are merely aribitrarily defined intervals being compared to other random intervals.

We've proven that spacetime is warped by pointing the hubble bubble telescope at the edge of the sun, seeing stars that were behind it. Because of the curvature of space near the large mass of the sun the photons from the star behind it were seen at it's edge.
Spacetime warping is caused by gravity acting on real things in the world. This does not contradict anything I've stated.

I'm paraphrasing but you can look this up on nasa.gov or wherever you like. Just google it.
It's pretty clear you don't really understand what you're saying.
 

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Lifer
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One person living in NY talks to another person living in LA at the same time...If you say "hi", do you need to wait 3 hours for an answer? Between NY and LA is 3 hours of "human time" difference...

We ALL live at the very same time...even human created technologies prove it...No matter where you're - Antarctica, Southpole, Northpole, NYC, Pitcairn Islands, New Zealand...

How can we celebrate a New Year at different times if we all exist at the very same time?
Difference not in hours or minutes, difference in when we see sun or moon....But, on another hand, people living, let's say in Alaska, see sun 1/2 year(human year) Is it right to them? In South Africa now is a summer...If time exist, Why there are two different cycles of the year for people that live at very same time on this planet?

So, what it is: seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years?

I think that has to do with the sun revolving around Kim Kardashian, or the Earth's rotation, one of those two. But what do I know?

Isn't it weird how it takes ~24 hours for the Earth to make a 360 degree rotation on it's axis? I wonder why that is...? But then, I also wonder about time noobs, so, yeah. ah heck all.
 

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Lifer
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Sorry to hear that.
I reckon you're actually sorry that you've been revealed to be ignorant about the things you claimed to know.

I hope you find some time in 2013 to learn more about time. It's about time you did. Don't you think? Happy New Year.
I know enough to know that the things you've claimed are false, and you're now retreating because you cannot support your claims.
 

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Lifer
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I think that has to do with the sun revolving around Kim Kardashian, or the Earth's rotation, one of those two. But what do I know?

Isn't it weird how it takes ~24 hours for the Earth to make a 360 degree rotation on it's axis? I wonder why that is...? But then, I also wonder about time noobs, so, yeah. ah heck all.

How long is an hour? You claim to be able to measure time, so how long is an hour?