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Happy New Year...Does Time Exist?

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Lifer
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Where? Show it to me.


Then measure time. Tell me how long an hour is. I've already asked you, and you've pretended that question doesn't exist. Why is that?


So what? This has absolutely nothing to do with the point at hand.


Precisely. No equipment exists to measure either Planck Length or Planck Time.
But it's generally accepted that whenever we can get around to producing such equipment, we will never be able to measure anything smaller.


Also (from wiki, but relevant and accurate):

"Under the International System of Units (via the International Committee for Weights and Measures, or CIPM), since 1967 the second has been defined as the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom.[1] In 1997 CIPM added that the periods would be defined for a caesium atom at rest, and approaching the theoretical temperature of absolute zero, and in 1999, it included corrections from ambient radiation.[1]
This definition refers to a caesium atom at rest at a temperature of 0 K (absolute zero). Absolute zero implies no movement, and therefore zero external radiation effects (i.e., zero local electric and magnetic fields). The second thus defined is consistent with the ephemeris second, which was based on astronomical measurements."

You quoted the post, but failed to address the actual substance of said post.

For someone who talks of lacking substance, it seems clear the substance might just be there, but you failed to comprehend it.
Or blatantly chose to ignore it, and/or dismiss it due to it not fitting your preconceptions of the subject.

You want a defined hour: take that number in my quoted post (defined as intervals relating to decay, a cold hard reality of the universe that could be applied to any element with decay), and do a small bit of math.

one hour = 33093474372000 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom.

You will once again reply this is arbitrary. Of course, we have our own defined second, minute and day, originally based on astronomical revolutions, so this is the number that matches up. But it's an intrinsic property of the universe, and matter at large: it's repeatable, predictable, and is one of the many ways the physical reality (time, if you will, is embedded in the fabric itself, manifested in everything but not defined by a particular particle that we have discovered nor likely exists) demonstrates time through physical matter.

I'm not worried if everything in the universe is ageless and immortal - but it's just not so, no evidence possibly submits to it. So again, I assert you refuse to address the matter without subjecting the entire topic to metaphysics, which is patently false and cannot be disproved, in the same light that God and all things metaphysical cannot be disproved.

Your assertion that Time does not exist is comical: how else do you explain everything in the universe?

You have failed to actually assert WHY time does not exist, save for addressing the idea that all measurements are baseless when humanity is removed from the picture. So, give us a good lecture that explains how everything that is and will ever be, exists without time.
I am prepared to be dazzled and amazed.


In short: I think what we are all waiting for is your dissertation that produces a new theory that negates the entire concept of Spacetime.
The fabric of the universe acts on everything, and everything acts on it. Or in other words, time acts upon all physical matter (and all other aspects of the universe), and all physical matter can act on it.