Happy birthday Obamacare!!!

[superccs]

This legislature allows my mom to get insurance since she has "previous-medical-conditions"

 

[lothar]

I used to be 100% against it...However one of the biggest stocks in my portfolio(HUM) is doing very well thanks to this law so I therefore have a conflict of interest.
I'm probably now more like 65-70% against it now.

JNJ, GILD, ESRX, COV and HUM FTW!!!

 

[Zorkorist]

The second Health Insurance is mandated is the second we have lost control of our lives to a socialist government.

I'm a no, was a no, and still a no.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

This legislature allows my mom to get insurance since she has "previous-medical-conditions"

Don't you mean free health care?

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

If Lawyers and Insurance Companies, and Government weren't involved, your Mom could probably find a Doctor that would help her for a fair price.

-John

 

[IronWing]

If Lawyers and Insurance Companies, and Government weren't involved, your Mom could probably find a Doctor that would help her for a fair price.

-John

Not likely. Prior to employer provided health insurance and Medicare doctors' services were beyond the financial reach of most Americans. There is no reason to believe that in the absence of socialized medicine that medical care would not again become a perk of being rich.

 

[Zorkorist]

I disagree. Every town has a Doctor, and the Doctor collects his pay.

It's not rocket science. It's health care.

Until insurance, lawyers, and Government came around, everyone could easily afford health care.

-John

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Eventually government will run healthcare just like Iraq.

 

[irwincur]

Just found out today that my small business rates are going to 32% next year. Fucking awesome.

I am thinking of applying for a waiver, but then again I don't "know" someone.

 

[Zorkorist]

Sounds like something a person might say when opressed by a Government.

-John

 

[soccerballtux]

seeing all the special favors & exemptions that Obama has granted to big business like Walmart and McDonalds, IMO they all should be required or none. Used to be for now against.

 

[Zivic]

considering my premiums have increased 42% since this bill was mentioned... and continue to increase. I would have to say I am not a big fan of the bill.... oh, but I did get my lifetime benefit cap removed. I guess when I can't afford my premium anymore this bill might be a good thing?

 

[Zivic]

oh, and not to mention the hundreds upon hundreds of exemptions to the bill that have been granted and the whole lot is a bad joke..... don't worry, I got the tab

 

[Zebo]

All I notice is a I pay about $250 more a month for family of 5.

I wish my wife would go back to nursing just for the insurance rather than train horses. :roll:

 

[sportage]

serious question:

Obama kept saying the whole point of this was the millions of people who don't have health insurance.

But he exempted 2.5 million people from this.

So do those 2.5 million people not need health insurance? Why/how are they special?

Really! Republicans had no hand in that?
You can thank republicans for any failure of this so called "Obama care".
Healthcare reform could have been done right. But sadly republicans had enough power to make sure that would never happen.
So NOW you blame Obama?
I think you've been Fauxed Newsed a bit (to say the least).

For one thing, because of republican objections, much of the reform will not go into effect until 2014.
For another, a lot of people can now insure their older kids by adding the kid to the adults healthcare plan.
And another plus you overlook, as we approach tax time, a large number of businesses that began offering healthcare to employees will now be able to take advantage of tax breaks for doing so.
It's called a win-win situation...
Employees get healthcare from employers, and employers get a tax break to offset that cost.

The best is yet to come... HaPpY BiRtHdAy HeAlThCaRe ReFoRm
(despite republicans attempts so kill it, then allow the insurance companies to rule the day)

 

[Vette73]

considering my premiums have increased 42% since this bill was mentioned... and continue to increase. I would have to say I am not a big fan of the bill.... oh, but I did get my lifetime benefit cap removed. I guess when I can't afford my premium anymore this bill might be a good thing?

Health insruance premiums were going up before the bill was passed, might want to see what the insruance companies are doing before you blame something that came well after the problem started.

 

[boomerang]

Really! Republicans had no hand in that?
You can thank republicans for any failure of this so called "Obama care".
Healthcare reform could have been done right. But sadly republicans had enough power to make sure that would never happen.
So NOW you blame Obama?
I think you've been Fauxed Newsed a bit (to say the least). Ah, the progressive blame game. We're uber smart, you're all dumb and when we get something all fucked up, it sure as shit wasn't us that's responsible, so it must be the Republicans.

For one thing, because of republican objections, much of the reform will not go into effect until 2014. Link please?
For another, a lot of people can now insure their adult children by adding the lazy slackers to mommy and daddy's healthcare plan.
And another plus you overlook, as we approach tax time, a large number of businesses that began offering healthcare to employees will now be able to take advantage of tax breaks for doing so. You mean they get to spend a lot to save a little? Yeah!!
It's called a win-win situation... Only in lib land...
Employees get healthcare from employers, and employers get a tax break to offset that cost. The multitude of healthy small businesses are really looking forward to increasing their costs. They're hoping to be able to pass it on to the consumer, but the economy isn't real healthy right now what with gasoline and food costs going through the roof, but hey, it's all good, right?

The best is yet to come... HaPpY BiRtHdAy HeAlThCaRe ReFoRm
(despite republicans attempts so kill it, then allow the insurance companies to rule the day)

Here's a big one for you...

 

[werepossum]

This legislature allows my mom to get insurance since she has "previous-medical-conditions"

Good point. Although I don't like Obamacare there are good things about it, and whatever is proposed to replace it needs to address those points.

All I notice is a I pay about $250 more a month for family of 5.

I wish my wife would go back to nursing just for the insurance rather than train horses. :roll:

Maybe you could compromise and she could start training nurses. Lots of demand for that on the Internet, and she can probably use a lot of the same crops . . .

 

[bfdd]

it raised my rates

 

[werepossum]

it raised my rates

It's going to raise everyone's rates. However there is something to be said for providing a means for people to afford health insurance even knowing that our rates will go up. That's a good thing, even if it's wrapped in 2400 pages of government-issue bullshit.

 

[CycloWizard]

It's going to raise everyone's rates. However there is something to be said for providing a means for people to afford health insurance even knowing that our rates will go up. That's a good thing, even if it's wrapped in 2400 pages of government-issue bullshit.

The problem is that raising rates makes things less affordable rather than more affordable. The people who couldn't afford it before surely can't now. Some of the people who could afford it before can't now. Add in the fact that people with pre-existing conditions are now guaranteed insurance (but not at a reasonable rate) and you have a lot of people being thrown under the bus.

 

[pcgeek11]

Even better 60% Hate it 17% Love it....

 

[Naeeldar]

It's going to raise everyone's rates. However there is something to be said for providing a means for people to afford health insurance even knowing that our rates will go up. That's a good thing, even if it's wrapped in 2400 pages of government-issue bullshit.

I'm glad you feel that way. Feel free to go out and buy insurance for somebody if you want. Explain to me why it's good for me to have to pay for somebody else insurance? If i wanted to do that I'd do it.

And yes I know I'm a heartless sob.

 

[rudeguy]

I'm glad you feel that way. Feel free to go out and buy insurance for somebody if you want. Explain to me why it's good for me to have to pay for somebody else insurance? If i wanted to do that I'd do it.

And yes I know I'm a heartless sob.

aren't we already doing that with our state and federal taxes? Why do I need to pay again and again and again?

 

[Naeeldar]

aren't we already doing that with our state and federal taxes? Why do I need to pay again and again and again?

Don't really understand what you are saying. Not sure if your chiming in with agreement or being sarcastic at my point.