Happiest cities to live in 2025

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There is thousands of acres of land around here that could be developed, a reasonable permit process, few restrictions, and a pro growth local government. There is actually quite a bit of building going on.
While that might be expedient and help people that want to live in sprawl, long-term, you are just letting the more popular areas become playgrounds for rich people as everyone else gets priced out (due to the restricted supply in the popular places driving prices to the moon), and you're going to run into the huge problem that property taxes do a poor job of covering infrastructure for sprawl.
 

Greenman

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While that might be expedient and help people that want to live in sprawl, long-term, you are just letting the more popular areas become playgrounds for rich people as everyone else gets priced out (due to the restricted supply in the popular places driving prices to the moon), and you're going to run into the huge problem that property taxes do a poor job of covering infrastructure for sprawl.
What is it you're saying here? If we need more housing it has to be built, if there isn't any dirt available in the city center you have to move out or up. The space is finite. Around here they always move out because land is cheap, and infrastructure is available and well maintained. A lot of the people moving here are from Memphis.
 

Greenman

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Why? If something is legal, which is harmful, vote for politicians who are going to change the laws for the better. I thought it was how democracy works.
The way you worded the statement made it sound as though government had to specifically approve the activity. My mistake.
I wouldn't mind seeing investment groups being barred from buying up housing as they do no good for the market. It's a purely predatory business.
 
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What is it you're saying here? If we need more housing it has to be built, if there isn't any dirt available in the city center you have to move out or up. The space is finite. Around here they always move out because land is cheap, and infrastructure is available and well maintained. A lot of the people moving here are from Memphis.
If only we had the technology to build in the vertical dimension. Alas...
 

Muse

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Perhaps a financial and cultural center of the country isn't the hellscape that everyone in rural America thinks it is?

Just because YOU don't want to live there, doesn't mean it's a terrible place to live.

Notice how every city on the list...is..well...a city. They're not towns or villages. These are major metro areas.

And again, YOU might not want that. That's fine. But don't pretend other people don't enjoy living in a city - because clearly people do, or they wouldn't exist in the first place.
I venture to say that Greenman has never lived in NYC. Can't force a square peg into a round hole.
 

WelshBloke

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All of those things are almost organic. Wherever there is a group of people with money there will be someone to sell them the stuff they want.
It's rare that someone buys a huge tract of land 100 miles from anything and decides to build a city on it. Though the one place I know of that did it was fabulously successful.
They are organic if the housing grows slowly. Like there's villages around here that every decade someone slaps a few new houses around the edge. That works well.
There are villages here where they have slapped a couple of hundred houses around a small village and thats never as nice!
 

pmv

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Am sure I remember Denmark as a whole coming top of 'national happiness lists', so I guess it's not surprising.

Seems they are currently second to Finland.


Irked that my great-grandfather was born in a city in the top 5 of the OP list, but could he stay there? No, damn fool had to move somewhere else (and then subsequent generations moved again) such that I ended up being born in number 31, and getting stuck here for life (can't help but suspect that that was supposed to be a 'top 30' and there were some shennanigans involved such that they added a '31' just to squeeze London in there. Don't know that it merits even that, I would assume just me on my own brings the average down considerably)
 
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Am sure I remember Denmark as a whole coming top of 'national happiness lists', so I guess it's not surprising.

Seems they are currently second to Finland.
I wonder how these happiness indices are impacted by how much people rot their brains on social media. Plenty of people are just completely steeped to a degree that they are just constantly miserable, thanks to voices that tell us we need to be miserable and a flattening of economic perceptions such that we get miserable when we also can't have X like the guy that looks like Everyday Joe on Facebook.
 

pmv

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I wonder how these happiness indices are impacted by how much people rot their brains on social media. Plenty of people are just completely steeped to a degree that they are just constantly miserable, thanks to voices that tell us we need to be miserable and a flattening of economic perceptions such that we get miserable when we also can't have X like the guy that looks like Everyday Joe on Facebook.

I'm not convinced social media is qualitatively worse than the traditional mass media, in that regard. I mean, the existing mass media already encourages everyone to compare themselves (and what they have) to global outliers and find themselves lacking. Once-upon-a-time you'd have only had the richest (or best-looking, or most athletic...) guy in your village available with which to make dispiriting comparisons.

Also, as I recall, Denmark tended to top these sorts of league tables before social media even existed.
 

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Man I’ve ambled into a few one horse town’s only bar before and totally had that happen. Also as a male entering a gay bar would generally be…the expectation.
lol anyone saying good restaurants are everywhere has probably never been to a good restaurant because they most certainly are not.

Even in NYC you have to look for them and they aren’t always easy to find.
 

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A good restaurant to me is one that serves food that tastes good and seems decently prepared, fresh ingredients not over cooked or underdone and seemingly prepared with a sense of intention and duty to provide a good experience in exchange for a fair price. I have eaten such meals at many a truck stop. I have also been to famous restaurants where I paid an arm and a leg. A good restaurant then is surely in the eye of the beholder or according to the standards of the mouth of the eater. Happy people who are therefore easy to please and willing to share their good nature can enjoy even a Happy Meal. But please not every day. Learn to cook and include plenty of fresh vegetables.

People in the country can raise their own food and eat like kings. People in the city can have fine chefs by farm produce and do wonders with it. I have seen films of women in Africa sifting dirt to retrieve rice grains that spilled from bags delivered by UN relief trucks. That rice must provide an unbelievable dining experience to be worth such an effort. It taught me to be careful not to spill a grain when I wash mine in the sink.
 

biostud

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I wonder how these happiness indices are impacted by how much people rot their brains on social media. Plenty of people are just completely steeped to a degree that they are just constantly miserable, thanks to voices that tell us we need to be miserable and a flattening of economic perceptions such that we get miserable when we also can't have X like the guy that looks like Everyday Joe on Facebook.

 

thilanliyan

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What I like about our town is that it has a public school, a private school (where I work), a high school with boarding school, an sport "After-school", a business high school and a "højskole' which means that the amount of young people and kids are roughly half the population and the vibe of the city isn't small town backwardness, but more open and cultural. As a young person you should definitely go to the city and get that experience, but as an adult and family I do prefer the more quiet life.
Schools?!! That's soshulism... :D
 
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And city people might not understand why people living in the middle of nowhere enjoy that.

Neither is objectively wrong. They are different choices and living preferences for different people.
Imagine that - different people like different things and prioritize different things in their daily living.
 
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Moonbeam

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Imagine that - different people like different things and prioritize different things in their daily living.
Why? Is it not based on discrimination? Would you not prefer a warm spring day after a refreshing rain over a 120 degree desert. How about a middle class home over an apartment with a homeless person sleeping on cardboard bed outside the front door? What if human beings are genetically suited to feel being joy in certain conditions over others. Take arctic hysteria as an example. What is more likely, that people are more genetically evolved to feel good in a natural setting or in a cement jungle, never mind the fine restaurants. A lot of people free from financial dependency build estates that duplicate a garden setting. Bonsai remind me a lot of the African savanna. And so on…

We can adapt to many extremes but to what are we most suited to be at home with? Likes and dislikes, in addition to being discriminated among by pleasure and pain, can also be set by being conditioned by bigotry.

I have heard that many Revered Sufis were slaves and that a real Muslim is surrendered to the Will of God. What is the preference of a person who lives in a state of gratitude?

Thanks be for my life whatever it may be. Does not really being alive create that feeling?
 

fskimospy

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Why? Is it not based on discrimination? Would you not prefer a warm spring day after a refreshing rain over a 120 degree desert. How about a middle class home over an apartment with a homeless person sleeping on cardboard bed outside the front door? What if human beings are genetically suited to feel being joy in certain conditions over others. Take arctic hysteria as an example. What is more likely, that people are more genetically evolved to feel good in a natural setting or in a cement jungle, never mind the fine restaurants. A lot of people free from financial dependency build estates that duplicate a garden setting. Bonsai remind me a lot of the African savanna. And so on…

We can adapt to many extremes but to what are we most suited to be at home with? Likes and dislikes, in addition to being discriminated among by pleasure and pain, can also be set by being conditioned by bigotry.

I have heard that many Revered Sufis were slaves and that a real Muslim is surrendered to the Will of God. What is the preference of a person who lives in a state of gratitude?

Thanks be for my life whatever it may be. Does not really being alive create that feeling?
I think if you’re going to present the choice you should present it more holistically. Sure people generally want a bigger house all else being equal but the whole point is all else isn’t equal.

I don’t want a homeless person outside my door (although that never happens) but I do want good bars and restaurants, culture, access to good jobs, and access to services. I grew up in suburbia so I know it just fine and it was…just…awful. What a nightmare of a way to live.

That’s always been my point though. Maybe other people love living that way, and if so they should do that. This is why I think the government should not ban any type of living and just let people choose.