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Moonbeam

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Also theatres, good restaurants, shops with produce from around the world, bars that don't go silent when you walk in if you aren't related to the barman...
The thing about hating yourself is that it causes people to brag about whatever externalizations they accidentally happen to find themselves in. I am delighted by good restaurants and black starry skies. I love the hubbub of crowds and the solitude of hiking deep into the forest. Bigoted minds create blind eyes. You speak of the good things here that are better than there but these are only memories retold. I am typing to you and eating a bowl of cherries and spitting the pits in a glass and boy of boy do they taste good. I have two fillet mignons in the frig I just bought, potatoes and zucchini squash already made. I've eaten in the Eiffel Tower and at London't finest restaurants arriving in my Mercedes-Benz convertable. Don't you envy my greatness? Yesterday while I was asleep on my bed my cat jumped of my computer landing on and tearing open my forehead with her razer sharp claws. I thoughjt it prudent to use antiseptic but it hurt like hell. Future and past, what matters is only the now because it's the only place you will ever really be.
 

Moonbeam

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So Denmark have two cities in top 10, three in top 20 and four in top 30.

Not bad for a 6 mio population country. :)
The problem with success is that people from miserable countries will want the same for themselves and especially their children and they will want to move in. This will stress your welfare system and provide grist for the right wing elites that don't want to shoulder your higher tax burden They will try to convince the people they are stupid for being used by those worthless and undeserving immigrants. It's the problem of the camel getting his nose under the tent. In this way enlightenment is destroyed by self hate and the fear and the greed it creates. I hope your nation can navigate this problem successfully without becoming Nazi Germany. We evolved as shit and move primates a great option for a world of few people and no national boundaries. One result was the evolution of sufficient brain power to notice the need to prevent inbreeding by making mutually beneficial trade agreements dealing with different tribes. Your culture in my opinion contains great wisdom, insuring that everybody buys into the benefits that come from making people feel trust in their neighbor, that they will be there for them.
 

pete6032

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Yeah, our family made fun of living in the rural parts of Denmark growing up, and now I couldn't dream about moving back.

I only live 30 minutes drive from Aarhus, (number 4 on the list) Denmark is after all pretty small, so I can easily get city vibes if I wanted.

I just went outside, and the only "noise" was birds chirping.
I have to say if you ever came to the rural U.S. it would be unrecognizable versus rural Denmark.
 

biostud

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The problem with success is that people from miserable countries will want the same for themselves and especially their children and they will want to move in. This will stress your welfare system and provide grist for the right wing elites that don't want to shoulder your higher tax burden They will try to convince the people they are stupid for being used by those worthless and undeserving immigrants. It's the problem of the camel getting his nose under the tent. In this way enlightenment is destroyed by self hate and the fear and the greed it creates. I hope your nation can navigate this problem successfully without becoming Nazi Germany. We evolved as shit and move primates a great option for a world of few people and no national boundaries. One result was the evolution of sufficient brain power to notice the need to prevent inbreeding by making mutually beneficial trade agreements dealing with different tribes. Your culture in my opinion contains great wisdom, insuring that everybody buys into the benefits that come from making people feel trust in their neighbor, that they will be there for them.
Sort of, but yeah we do have a social democrat prime minister who says migration will be the largest problem we will face. And a justice department minister who says more surveillance equals more freedom...
 

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Also Copenhagen is insanely expensive. If you are a "normal" first time buyer buying an apartment will often take 60-70% of your disposable income, in Aarhus it will be around 40% and in Odense/Aalborg 25%.
 

Moonbeam

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Also Copenhagen is insanely expensive. If you are a "normal" first time buyer buying an apartment will often take 60-70% of your disposable income, in Aarhus it will be around 40% and in Odense/Aalborg 25%.
I don't know the difference between disposable monthly income and monthly income but I checked for a studio where I live and the first one I saw listed for 3000 a month. Pretty obvious to me why people want to throw bombs at the politicians even though it's the voters who elect them. Everybody you call a normal buyer is on a tread mill and 4 hours a day on the freeway. I bought when prices were skyrocketing to preserve a 20 minute commute which thanks to the need for housing is what it takes now just to get to the freeway.
I remember driving with family and friends, stuck in traffic and saying, I'm praying for a plague. Traffic got much better for a while. The convenience and variety offered by cities comes with a price. In must of the places in the US I've been public transportation sucks and parking is an arm and a leg.
 

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I don't know the difference between disposable monthly income and monthly income but I checked for a studio where I live and the first one I saw listed for 3000 a month. Pretty obvious to me why people want to throw bombs at the politicians even though it's the voters who elect them. Everybody you call a normal buyer is on a tread mill and 4 hours a day on the freeway. I bought when prices were skyrocketing to preserve a 20 minute commute which thanks to the need for housing is what it takes now just to get to the freeway.
I remember driving with family and friends, stuck in traffic and saying, I'm praying for a plague. Traffic got much better for a while. The convenience and variety offered by cities comes with a price. In must of the places in the US I've been public transportation sucks and parking is an arm and a leg.
Disposable is after income taxes. Here in Denmark it's not too bad in regards to regulations and building, the problem is that Copenhagen is really crowded, so there are really not that many places where you can build new, and as more are living alone then it also put a pressure on the market. If you have a capacity index of for 100 and 120 wants to live in the city, no matter how you slice the cake, 20 are not going to get their wishes. And if you can raise capacity, then the lower prices will attract more people and now with a capacity of 120, 140 wants to live there.

Politicians can prevent large expensive renting zones if they want, and there is a good deal of non profit renting in Denmark, but the waiting lists are 20+ years.
 

Greenman

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Also theatres, good restaurants, shops with produce from around the world, bars that don't go silent when you walk in if you aren't related to the barman...
Never been much of a theater fan. Good restaurants are everywhere. I've never once in my life walked into a bar and had any sort of reaction, and that includes one that was the hangout for a biker gang. I never even got a second look when I wandered into a gay bar. I was a little disappointed.
 
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Good restaurants are everywhere.

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I've never once in my life walked into a bar and had any sort of reaction, and that includes one that was the hangout for a biker gang. I never even got a second look when I wandered into a gay bar. I was a little disappointed.

Man I’ve ambled into a few one horse town’s only bar before and totally had that happen. Also as a male entering a gay bar would generally be…the expectation.
 

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Disposable is after income taxes. Here in Denmark it's not too bad in regards to regulations and building, the problem is that Copenhagen is really crowded, so there are really not that many places where you can build new, and as more are living alone then it also put a pressure on the market. If you have a capacity index of for 100 and 120 wants to live in the city, no matter how you slice the cake, 20 are not going to get their wishes. And if you can raise capacity, then the lower prices will attract more people and now with a capacity of 120, 140 wants to live there.

Politicians can prevent large expensive renting zones if they want, and there is a good deal of non profit renting in Denmark, but the waiting lists are 20+ years.
Any place that's popular is going to be expensive. There really isn't any getting around it.
The problem around here is investor groups buying up homes to rent out. They run commercials offering to buy homes in any condition, no closing costs, no inspections, you get paid in a week.
 
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Man I’ve ambled into a few one horse town’s only bar before and totally had that happen. Also as a male entering a gay bar would generally be…the expectation.
I used to ride with a couple of fellows that seemed to know of every dive bar on the west coast, and we hit them all. Never even got the side eye from the locals.
 

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Any place that's popular is going to be expensive. There really isn't any getting around it.
The problem around here is investor groups buying up homes to rent out. They run commercials offering to buy homes in any condition, no closing costs, no inspections, you get paid in a week.
Especially if they are sponsoring the politicians...
 
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Any place that's popular is going to be expensive. There really isn't any getting around it.
The problem around here is investor groups buying up homes to rent out. They run commercials offering to buy homes in any condition, no closing costs, no inspections, you get paid in a week.
The best way to undercut people buying homes as investment properties is to let people build more homes in the areas that are popular. Homes are expensive in popular areas because there isn't enough supply, so people bid up the prices.
 
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WelshBloke

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Never been much of a theater fan. Good restaurants are everywhere. I've never once in my life walked into a bar and had any sort of reaction, and that includes one that was the hangout for a biker gang. I never even got a second look when I wandered into a gay bar. I was a little disappointed.
And thats fine that that suits you.

I live in a largish village, its about 2k population. Im lucky because its at the edge of a tourist area and this we get enough people in the summer to keep pubs and restaurants open. There are 4 pubs, two of which do extremely good food, a good Indian takeaway, Chinese takeaway and chip shop. Plus a few tea and cake places.
Why am I saying that? Well even though there are great places to eat here there's a fantastic tapas restaurant in the local city, some good Thai restaurants and a fantastic Italian restaurant (along with a bunch of others, those are just my go tos). There's a bunch of fancy cocktail places and bars that are also fun to take visitors.
What im saying is that cities give you choices that small towns don't. To act surprised that people like living in cities is strange, they have a lot to give even if you don't want to live in one day to day.
 

Greenman

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The best way to undercut people buying homes as investment properties is to let people build more homes in the areas that are popular. Homes are expensive in popular areas because there isn't enough supply, so people bid up the prices.
There is thousands of acres of land around here that could be developed, a reasonable permit process, few restrictions, and a pro growth local government. There is actually quite a bit of building going on.
 

WelshBloke

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Also as a male entering a gay bar would generally be…the expectation.
When I lived in the city my local was the "gay pub". It was just around the corner from where I lived and I just used to go in the day, in the week (so pretty quiet times). It took me a few weeks to realise that it was a "gay pub" and I used to sit at the bar and chat with the barman if my book was crappy!
I think people have a strange idea about what constitutes that sort of bar. It was just a chill pub where people could just be themselves. The city now is full of places that advertise themselves as "trans friendly" or fly flags of inclusion and ill always pop into one of those if im in a new area because I know that there won't be any dick heads in them trying to start a fight!
 
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WelshBloke

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There is thousands of acres of land around here that could be developed, a reasonable permit process, few restrictions, and a pro growth local government. There is actually quite a bit of building going on.
Just slapping loads of houses down somewhere doesn't make a nice place to live though. Housing areas need local shops, pubs, schools, restaurants...
And while you can make provisions for those those seem very much an afterthought with little effect put into making them work.
 

Greenman

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Just slapping loads of houses down somewhere doesn't make a nice place to live though. Housing areas need local shops, pubs, schools, restaurants...
And while you can make provisions for those those seem very much an afterthought with little effect put into making them work.
All of those things are almost organic. Wherever there is a group of people with money there will be someone to sell them the stuff they want.
It's rare that someone buys a huge tract of land 100 miles from anything and decides to build a city on it. Though the one place I know of that did it was fabulously successful.