Hamas stealing humanitarian aid?

[SamurAchzar]

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Report: Hamas stealing aid supplies to sell to residents

Grim picture of Gazans' lives painted by reports emerging from Strip, claiming gunmen hiding in civilian homes, using residents as human shields, and hijacking trucks of humanitarian aid
Roee Nahmias

A government or a gang? As the Israeli operation in Gaza wears on it appears Hamas has relinquished any visage of a socio-political party, abandoning its claim to govern the residents of Gaza in favor of engaging in open war at their expense.

Case In Point

Reports say Hamas takes a cut out of all aid that arrives, including flour and medicine. Supplies intended to be distributed without gain among the population is seized by the group and sold to the residents, at a profit to the Hamas government.


One such incident was recorded Monday, when a convoy of trucks carrying supplies through the Kerem Shalom crossing was opened fire upon and seized by Hamas gunmen. Similar incidents occurred with trucks carrying fuel.


Forced to flee. Residents of Gaza (Photo: AP)


In other cases, civilians are simply used as cannon fodder or human shields. Reports out of Gaza say residents who attempted to flee their homes in the northern area of the Strip were forced to go back at gunpoint, by Hamas men.


The organization is presumably interested in increasing civilian casualties in order to give rise to international pressure against Israel. Arab media reported that in an IDF strike on a UN school 30 civilians were killed, but there is no legitimate way to prove gunmen were among those killed as Hamas tends to bury these bodies quickly, thus eliminating evidence in Israel's favor.


Other civilian complaints state that Hamas gunmen pull children along with them "by the ears" from place to place, fearing that if they don't have a child with them they will be fair game to the IDF. Others hide in civilian homes and stairwells, UNRWA ambulances, and mosques.


In other reported cases Hamas gunmen hold civilians hostage in alleyways in order to provide themselves with a living barricade to ward off IDF forces. Reports somewhat more difficult to verify say the group's men shot Fatah operatives in the feet to make sure the latter would not attempt a coup.


No one to turn to

These reports lead to the assumption that Hamas is attempting to exacerbate the atmosphere of a humanitarian crisis in the Strip, as this may promote an international ceasefire initiative. In any case the reports clearly show that the residents of Gaza have fallen prey to Hamas as well as the IDF.


Reports of alarming shortages are also forthcoming, as residents appear to lack water, flour, electricity, and any sign of a capable government. Chaos reigns as no one appears to know when electricity will be available, how to obtain water or food, or whom to address in order to evacuate the injured.


The "emergency numbers" given to residents have ceased to function, and citizens in need of assistance have only international organizations, the Red Crescent, and the hospitals themselves to turn to.


The Hamas leaders, aside from two addresses, have not been heard from. Their speeches were broadcast a number of times, but in any case many in the Strip can no longer access televisions, radios, or internet without electricity.


Despite this, no authoritative anti-Hamas sentiments have been heard from the Gazans. However Palestinian sources claim that grievances against the group are voiced in secret. The animosity towards Israel has not disappeared, say the sources, but it is now accompanied by bitterness towards the organization many are dubbing Iranian in its extremism.

Lovely. First Arafat stealing their money, and now Hamas stealing their supplies for financing its private crusades against Israel. Go Palestinians!

 

[OCGuy]

Hamas would never do such a thing. They are a peaceful organization that is part of a peaceful religion.

 

[blackangst1]

ugh. I feel so bad for the residents

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
ugh. I feel so bad for the residents

yep.. theres a new saying

man your fucked
fucked like a palestian living right outside isreal under hamas's governement

cause, they're fucked.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
ugh. I feel so bad for the residents

Me too. Where are these reports coming from though, has Israel finally started allowing journalists into Gaza?

Regardless, if only Israel hadn't kept expanding their colonization of the rest of Palestine while pulling out of Gaza to leave it in chaos, Hamas wouldn't have this opportunity to engage in such banditry.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: blackangst1
ugh. I feel so bad for the residents

Me too. Where are these reports coming from though, has Israel finally started allowing journalists into Gaza?

Regardless, if only Israel hadn't kept expanding their colonization of the rest of Palestine while pulling out of Gaza to leave it in chaos, Hamas wouldn't have this opportunity to engage in such banditry.

And if Tim Mcveigh's parents never had sex, the OKC bombing would have never happened.


Wait...

If his grandparents never had sex, his parents would not have been born, and therefor couldnt make Tim.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
ugh. I feel so bad for the residents

Why? They voted them in. Why don't they revolt against Hamas? Because they support their cause.

 

[dahunan]

Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

how much do the pali rats get?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: blackangst1
ugh. I feel so bad for the residents

Why? They voted them in. Why don't they revolt against Hamas? Because they support their cause.

How many voted them in sicko.. tell us .. was voter turnout just like that in the US..

Like you say.. Iraqis should then start killing you and your family members here in the US since you voted in Bush and the neocons..


You really should do us all a favor and take a break from posting your desier to murder all of a certain people.. your posts calling for the murder of all Palestinians are disgusting and a disgrace to humanity

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Hamas would never do such a thing. They are a peaceful organization that is part of a peaceful religion.

:laugh::thumbsup:

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

how much do the pali rats get?

did I call Israelis names?? You are so biased it is useless to hold any conversation with you

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Regardless, if only Israel hadn't kept expanding their colonization of the rest of Palestine while pulling out of Gaza to leave it in chaos, Hamas wouldn't have this opportunity to engage in such banditry.

And if Tim Mcveigh's parents never had sex, the OKC bombing would have never happened.


Wait...

If his grandparents never had sex, his parents would not have been born, and therefor couldnt make Tim.

You missed the part where they are all still having sex and turning out more bombers, while we buy them Viagra.

Or did you not realize that Israel conentues to expand their colonization of the rest of Palestine as we keep right on backing them?

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

how much do the pali rats get?

So this kind of talk is appropriate now?

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

Ah, the ol' "Jew" stereotypes.


If I ever see anyone warned for making other racial comments/stereotypes on these forums im linking to your posts.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
Text

Report: Hamas stealing aid supplies to sell to residents

Grim picture of Gazans' lives painted by reports emerging from Strip, claiming gunmen hiding in civilian homes, using residents as human shields, and hijacking trucks of humanitarian aid
Roee Nahmias

A government or a gang? As the Israeli operation in Gaza wears on it appears Hamas has relinquished any visage of a socio-political party, abandoning its claim to govern the residents of Gaza in favor of engaging in open war at their expense.

Case In Point

Reports say Hamas takes a cut out of all aid that arrives, including flour and medicine. Supplies intended to be distributed without gain among the population is seized by the group and sold to the residents, at a profit to the Hamas government.


One such incident was recorded Monday, when a convoy of trucks carrying supplies through the Kerem Shalom crossing was opened fire upon and seized by Hamas gunmen. Similar incidents occurred with trucks carrying fuel.


Forced to flee. Residents of Gaza (Photo: AP)


In other cases, civilians are simply used as cannon fodder or human shields. Reports out of Gaza say residents who attempted to flee their homes in the northern area of the Strip were forced to go back at gunpoint, by Hamas men.


The organization is presumably interested in increasing civilian casualties in order to give rise to international pressure against Israel. Arab media reported that in an IDF strike on a UN school 30 civilians were killed, but there is no legitimate way to prove gunmen were among those killed as Hamas tends to bury these bodies quickly, thus eliminating evidence in Israel's favor.


Other civilian complaints state that Hamas gunmen pull children along with them "by the ears" from place to place, fearing that if they don't have a child with them they will be fair game to the IDF. Others hide in civilian homes and stairwells, UNRWA ambulances, and mosques.


In other reported cases Hamas gunmen hold civilians hostage in alleyways in order to provide themselves with a living barricade to ward off IDF forces. Reports somewhat more difficult to verify say the group's men shot Fatah operatives in the feet to make sure the latter would not attempt a coup.


No one to turn to

These reports lead to the assumption that Hamas is attempting to exacerbate the atmosphere of a humanitarian crisis in the Strip, as this may promote an international ceasefire initiative. In any case the reports clearly show that the residents of Gaza have fallen prey to Hamas as well as the IDF.


Reports of alarming shortages are also forthcoming, as residents appear to lack water, flour, electricity, and any sign of a capable government. Chaos reigns as no one appears to know when electricity will be available, how to obtain water or food, or whom to address in order to evacuate the injured.


The "emergency numbers" given to residents have ceased to function, and citizens in need of assistance have only international organizations, the Red Crescent, and the hospitals themselves to turn to.


The Hamas leaders, aside from two addresses, have not been heard from. Their speeches were broadcast a number of times, but in any case many in the Strip can no longer access televisions, radios, or internet without electricity.


Despite this, no authoritative anti-Hamas sentiments have been heard from the Gazans. However Palestinian sources claim that grievances against the group are voiced in secret. The animosity towards Israel has not disappeared, say the sources, but it is now accompanied by bitterness towards the organization many are dubbing Iranian in its extremism.

Lovely. First Arafat stealing their money, and now Hamas stealing their supplies for financing its private crusades against Israel. Go Palestinians!

Is anyone supposed to take this article seriously? It was written by an Israeli newspaper and they use the term "Reports out of". What kind of journalism is this? Funny how if this was Al-Jeezera, the same group of cheerleaders would be saying its propoganda.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

Ah, the ol' "Jew" stereotypes.


If I ever see anyone warned for making other racial comments/stereotypes on these forums im linking to your posts.

Was it a bad stereotype?? lol

You are the one who used the race card on me.. lol... and then didn't have the nerve to reply to my reply... /ignore

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

how much do the pali rats get?

So this kind of talk is appropriate now?

He should have been banned LONG ago.. More than once I have seen him call for the murder of ALL Palestinians.. he is nuts ** He said even the babies should be killed

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

how much do the pali rats get?

So this kind of talk is appropriate now?

He should have been banned LONG ago.. More than once I have seen him call for the murder of ALL Palestinians.. he is nuts ** He said even the babies should be killed

Why do you like to defend people who take honor in using children as shields and pride themselves in suicide bombing Jewish cafes? Does that even sound anything like a human being?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

how much do the pali rats get?

So this kind of talk is appropriate now?

Kind of like how talking about destruction of an entire state is appropriate?

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: JS80
how much do the pali rats get?

So this kind of talk is appropriate now?

I think it is worth elaborating on.

Imagine if you lock a few hundred rats into a cage with dividers between them, and then poke and prod them for months while dropping in some occasional scraps of food to keep them alive. Take the dividers out and drop a pile of food in, and watch what happens.

Now, imagine if you lock say Rhode Islanders into their state for decades, with military occupation to divide them, and bullets and bombs to poke and prod them, dropping in some occasional scraps of food to keep them alive. Now take the military out and drop a pile of food in.

I doubt anyone here can make an reasonable argument that Rhode Islanders or any population would react with any notable difference than the Gazens have, or as rats would for that matter.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

how much do the pali rats get?

So this kind of talk is appropriate now?

Kind of like how talking about destruction of an entire state is appropriate?

I'll let the mods take care of you.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

What, you mean 3.5 billion dollars of which most can only be used to by American products on American soil? Mostly used to buy military American hardware anyway?

I know this kind of thinking might be on the overly complicated side for you, but this is how US buys much of the influence over Israel. Nethanyau looked at stopping this handout a few years ago and the Americans weren't overly enthusiastic for it.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: dahunan
Does Israel really need Welfare and Food Stamps from US Citizens.. richest and most intelligent people .. yet they steal .. how much. 3.5 billion from US citiznes mouths every year.. W/E

how much do the pali rats get?

So this kind of talk is appropriate now?

Kind of like how talking about destruction of an entire state is appropriate?

I'll let the mods take care of you.

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Its funny that Israel has turned into something they've been bitching about for the last 60 years... Nazi Germany.

I'll take a ban if you take ban. I'd be glad to take you out with a suicide ban.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: JS80
how much do the pali rats get?

So this kind of talk is appropriate now?

I think it is worth elaborating on.

Imagine if you lock a few hundred rats into a cage with dividers between them, and then poke and prod them for months while dropping in some occasional scraps of food to keep them alive. Take the dividers out and drop a pile of food in, and watch what happens.

Now, imagine if you lock say Rhode Islanders into their state for decades, with military occupation to divide them, and bullets and bombs to poke and prod them, dropping in some occasional scraps of food to keep them alive. Now take the military out and drop a pile of food in.

I doubt anyone here can make an reasonable argument that Rhode Islanders or any population would react with any notable difference than the Gazens have, or as rats would for that matter.

Even your imaginary rats wouldn't be foolish enough to vote Hamas. Before deteriorating to analogies involving turds locked up in a sewage plant, mentally retarded kids in a deathrow or 8 ho's locked in an apartment with no crack - or whatever else you have in store - please consider the prosperity Palestinians had during the years of the Oslo process, before Arafat decided to wage another Intifada so to not be confronted with the option of a viable peace agreement, heavens forbid.