Half hour a day wasted going through security at work and not paid

[xBiffx]

How can it be bullshit? If it was, it would have been thrown out a long time ago. Just because one facility works the way you describe does not mean all the other subcontracted facilities operate the same way.

These people should be paid for the amount of time their employer makes them wait to go through the loss-prevention screening.

I guess it appears to be a state to state thing. I'm not surprised that the facility operated in NV is the way it is given how the labor laws are there compared to other states. If it is in fact a state issue, the Supreme Court will do nothing to change it. That whole 10th amendment thing....

 

[feralkid]

-snip-

You forgot to say it was uphill both ways and to get off your lawn.

 

[ivwshane]

I just got back from a long weekend so I didn't have time to comment on this.

This story appears to be 100% bullshit. My mother works at the Amazon order processing center in Fernley, NV. She clocks in as soon as she enters the door. Then she goes through security. Then she has to walk almost a mile down to here station. The building is that large.

So from what I can tell, at least at that facility, they are paid for going through security and the time it takes to arrive at their workstation.

What the fuck does arriving to work, clocking in and walking a mile to your station have to do with clocking out and waiting for security to let you go?

Perhaps you should take a longer vacation

 

[OutHouse]

What the fuck does arriving to work, clocking in and walking a mile to your station have to do with clocking out and waiting for security to let you go?

Perhaps you should take a longer vacation

lol.

 

[xBiffx]

I talked to my mom again about this. She's thinking this was from an incident at her facility. Apparently, someone either didn't or wouldn't empty out their pockets while going through security and it caused a huge delay (hundreds of people have to go through at the same time).

She did confirm that she does clock out before going through security but that it takes like 30 seconds to get through normally.

Sounds like another frivolous lawsuit to add to the pile.

 

[brycejones]

I talked to my mom again about this. She's thinking this was from an incident at her facility. Apparently, someone either didn't or wouldn't empty out their pockets while going through security and it caused a huge delay (hundreds of people have to go through at the same time).

She did confirm that she does clock out before going through security but that it takes like 30 seconds to get through normally.

Sounds like another frivolous lawsuit to add to the pile.

So you think the company should be able to keep you standing around for free? I'm glad you value your time so little.

 

[crashtech]

That's part of the problem; when other people around me don't value their own time, it drives down the market value of my time as well.

 

[xBiffx]

So you think the company should be able to keep you standing around for free? I'm glad you value your time so little.

30 seconds is surely worth a lawsuit.

 

[theeedude]

I talked to my mom again about this. She's thinking this was from an incident at her facility. Apparently, someone either didn't or wouldn't empty out their pockets while going through security and it caused a huge delay (hundreds of people have to go through at the same time).

She did confirm that she does clock out before going through security but that it takes like 30 seconds to get through normally.

Sounds like another frivolous lawsuit to add to the pile.

If it only takes 30 seconds normally, why doesn't Amazon just pay for that time? It's obviously not frivolous to them, since they are not willing to pay for that time.

 

[xBiffx]

If it only takes 30 seconds normally, why doesn't Amazon just pay for that time? It's obviously not frivolous to them, since they are not willing to pay for that time.

Because wage/hour laws don't normally allow for paying for seconds? Unless you think that the granularity of an average paycheck is calculated down to the 0.01 of an hour?

Are you serious?

 

[brycejones]

30 seconds is surely worth a lawsuit.

So what if it was 10 minutes every day? According to the lawsuit the delay was up to 30 minutes? You're assuming based on a conversation with your mother of all people that it is only 30 seconds a day.

Even if it is only 30 minutes once every 4 weeks over the course of a year the company just wasted the equivalent 6.5 hours of your time. You don't think you should be compensated for that?

What's pathetic is the solution is dead freaking simple put the damn time clock after the security checkpoint. If there wasn't real money involved for compensating people for their time spent waiting on security you can be sure this what the company would do.

Hell even its only 30 seconds * 500 employees * 250 work days per year it adds up to roughly 1042 hours of time the employer is getting from its employees without compensating them every year.

But I guess your philosophy is if you only steal a little bit at a time it doesn't matter.

 

[theeedude]

Because wage/hour laws don't normally allow for paying for seconds? Unless you think that the granularity of an average paycheck is calculated down to the 0.01 of an hour?

Are you serious?

So you have no problem if employees clock out after going through security? I mean it's 0.01 of an hour, who cares?

 

[Matt1970]

Even if it is only 30 minutes once every 4 weeks over the course of a year the company just wasted the equivalent 6.5 hours of your time. You don't think you should be compensated for that?

Wow, just wow.

 

[theeedude]

Corporatists are very cavalier with workers' time, but throw a huge fit when asked to pay for it.

 

[brycejones]

Wow, just wow.

You're right just wow....but I'm assuming we have very different view points.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I buy a fair amount of stuff from Amazon, not because it's cheap but because it's convenient.

I side with the workers, and I do not envy them their jobs or wages.

Same here. Amazon Prime member, don't see that stopping anytime soon. It's way too convenient to get that 50lb bag of dog food 2nd day air shipped (free), along with 100's of other things, however. I side with the employees on this. If your employer is FORCING you to do something, it should absolutely, without question, be on the company's dime.

 

[Matt1970]

You're right just wow....but I'm assuming we have very different view points.

Well I am not going to sue a company over less than a days pay in a years time. If it was taking 30 minutes a day, hell ya, but 6.5 hours in a year? Sorry, my sympathy just ran out.

 

[theeedude]

Well I am not going to sue a company over less than a days pay in a years time. If it was taking 30 minutes a day, hell ya, but 6.5 hours in a year? Sorry, my sympathy just ran out.

So you wouldn't mind sending me 6.5 hrs worth of YOUR pay every year?

 

[Matt1970]

So you wouldn't mind sending me 6.5 hrs worth of YOUR pay every year?

Do I work for you?

 

[brycejones]

Well I am not going to sue a company over less than a days pay in a years time. If it was taking 30 minutes a day, hell ya, but 6.5 hours in a year? Sorry, my sympathy just ran out.

Steal just a little at a time and you're good with it...

Got it.

 

[xBiffx]

So you have no problem if employees clock out after going through security? I mean it's 0.01 of an hour, who cares?

It makes no sense to have a computer outside the door/security.

Herp derp.

 

[xBiffx]

So what if it was 10 minutes every day? According to the lawsuit the delay was up to 30 minutes? You're assuming based on a conversation with your mother of all people that it is only 30 seconds a day.

Even if it is only 30 minutes once every 4 weeks over the course of a year the company just wasted the equivalent 6.5 hours of your time. You don't think you should be compensated for that?

What's pathetic is the solution is dead freaking simple put the damn time clock after the security checkpoint. If there wasn't real money involved for compensating people for their time spent waiting on security you can be sure this what the company would do.

Hell even its only 30 seconds * 500 employees * 250 work days per year it adds up to roughly 1042 hours of time the employer is getting from its employees without compensating them every year.

But I guess your philosophy is if you only steal a little bit at a time it doesn't matter.

From first hand knowledge, the 30 minute delay was once. This isn't an everyday occurrence and the weekly time it takes is a minute or two. Nothing worth getting into a twist over.

Now, if we are talking about 30 minutes a day, yeah I might have a problem with that. But we aren't. That number appears to be thrown out to drive clicks and sensationalize an otherwise mundane topic.

 

[xBiffx]

Corporatists are very cavalier with workers' time, but throw a huge fit when asked to pay for it.

So are workers. I mean, who doesn't take 20 minutes on occasion for that 15 minute smoking break. And who doesn't get it cut short from time to time.

Give me a fucken break. Either work the job and roll with the punches or be a pansy and sue for $40 worth of your time a year. Grow a pair.

 

[ivwshane]

Corporate apologizing must run in the family

 

[TheSlamma]

It makes no sense to have a computer outside the door/security.

Herp derp.

Like a non-removable clock or KIOSK to clock out on? Speaking of less herp and more derp