'Hail Trump!': White Nationalists Salute the President Elect

[jackstar7]

Hail Hydra!, Obviously....
What is there to talk about? It's not even guilt by association.

No, it is guilt by active encouragement.

Muslim registration. Bigoted appointees.

What more will it take, hmm?


SIDE NOTE: I appreciate that you at least participated in the thread. You and PG might have views I don't agree with, but at least you are willing to mix it up and let those views be tested.

 

[Jaskalas]

At least he's consistent. He didn't denounce the support of them during the campaign either.

*ahem
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/

As I recall, it became a story because Trump didn't sing the right tunes when the media first ran with the story. You may have noticed at some point that Trump says and does his own thing. He'll never match expectations, except maybe those of disappointment. Which says a lot more about failure of personality and/or character than it does about any particular policy.

The Bannon thing? I doubt he regards those issues. I'd argue this indicates that it's simply not important to Trump.

 

[jackstar7]

Good, let them reveal themselves. We know how to tell them to f' off.

Who is going to tell them that? And why? What laws are they breaking?

They need to be disavowed, rebuked, and shamed in all the strongest ways we can, but more importantly by the PEOTUS.

 

[PokerGuy]

So millions of people have expressed concerns that Trump ran on a message of division and hate

If millions of people believe the lies spewed by the lefty media, that's the media's problem, not Trumps.

Now the groups whose entire reason for being is division and hate towards minorities have latched on to that and come out louder and far more visibly to push that agenda of division and hate and your thinking is that there is no reason for Trump, no for the President-Elect of the United States, to speak out against these people for the greater good? To take advantage of the opportunity to reassure all of those who have expressed concern about the future of the country?

Was there a need for obummer to speak out against such organizations as BLM and other SJW / racist groups? Why is it up to Trump to speak out against other hate groups?

The man is about to become the President. He has a duty and an obligation to assure the people that this is not what his administration will be about. All he has to do is condemn them and their message. That is what it is to be President.

No, he has no such duty and obligation. He doesn't have an obligation to condemn anyone or any message just because someone (you, me, or anyone else) thinks their message is bad.

Bannon himself said Breitbart is a platform for white supremacist groups. What part of that don't you get or refuse to acknowledge.

Link it up..... and not some crap link to someone espousing some BS opinion. You're saying Bannon says Breitbart is a platform for white supremacist groups, I've never seen that.

As long as Bannon is in the White House its Trump's problem. Next he must denounce the Alt-right by name. If he can waste his time bitching about the cast of Hamilton what wrong with that?

No, it's not Trump's problem at all, he knows you lefties will whine no matter what. He will ignore you and continue doing exactly what he's been doing and the lefties will continue to throw temper tantrums and whine about it. He doesn't have to denounce anything.

 

[Blue_Max]

No, it is guilt by active encouragement.
Muslim registration.

So you're going to keep following the progressive mindset (as commanded) and keep pretending there is NO conflict of interest between islam and the western world. None. Germany's turmoil is because of white people.
Right.

There are problems and he wants to try to DEAL with them. Carefully. Appropriately.

The progressive collective approach is to throw open the borders, let them all in an smother them with love... and they'll magically appreciate you and instantly become model taxpaying citizens.

Bigoted appointees.

Citation needed.

What more will it take, hmm?

Hyperbole from the left. As much as you can shovel.

You want to equate Trump with KKK/White supremacists/etc? Get back to us when HE endorses THEM, not vice-versa.

 

[HomerJS]

*ahem
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/

As I recall, it became a story because Trump didn't sing the right tunes when the media first ran with the story. You may have noticed at some point that Trump says and does his own thing. He'll never match expectations, except maybe those of disappointment. Which says a lot more about failure of personality and/or character than it does about any particular policy.

The Bannon thing? I doubt he regards those issues. I'd argue this indicates that it's simply not important to Trump.

You are right having a white supremacist supporter in the White House isn't important to Trump and that is the problem. He would rather expend energy bitching about Hamilton and let these alt-right groups have a free pass.

So when does more of Trump's staff start wearing the white hooded sheets.

 

[HomerJS]

If millions of people believe the lies spewed by the lefty media, that's the media's problem, not Trumps.


Link it up..... and not some crap link to someone espousing some BS opinion. You're saying Bannon says Breitbart is a platform for white supremacist groups, I've never seen that.

Bannon is quoted back in July by Sarah Posner. Now I'm sure you will continue condoning having a white supremacist supporter in the White House

"We're the platform for the alt-right," Bannon told me proudly when I interviewed him at the Republican National Convention (RNC) in July.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/stephen-bannon-donald-trump-alt-right-breitbart-news

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

So you're going to keep following the progressive mindset (as commanded) and keep pretending there is NO conflict of interest between islam and the western world. None. Germany's turmoil is because of white people.
Right.

There are problems and he wants to try to DEAL with them. Carefully. Appropriately.

The progressive collective approach is to throw open the borders, let them all in an smother them with love... and they'll magically appreciate you and instantly become model taxpaying citizens.


Citation needed.


Hyperbole from the left. As much as you can shovel.

You want to equate Trump with KKK/White supremacists/etc? Get back to us when HE endorses THEM, not vice-versa.

don't you have some maple syrup to tap?

 

[Blue_Max]

Remember who we're dealing with here... screaming "progressives" so riddled with 'white guilt' that they celebrate the extinction of white males.
Anything less than full support for THAT gets them hurling insults at you, calling you "white supremacist" etc.

Lena Dunham:

 

[UNCjigga]

*SHOCK* "OMG there really was a basket of DEPLORABLES supporting Trump this whole time??? I THOUGHT IT WAS ANOTHER SHILLARY LIE!!!! WTF HAVE WE DONE TO THIS COUNTRY????"


...said no Trump voter ever


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[rudder]

drumpf silence on this speaks more loudly than any other group protesting it. I believe it's called tacit consent.

Ahhh I see how it works now. During Obamas presidency, black nationalists could publicly call for murdering whites, work at the DHS while mainting white genocide websites (guy was eventually fired), Obama could march with a black nationalist leader who sports a "kill whitey" tattoo.... but all of a sudden the media.... who has probably ignored this group the last decade... suddenly whips people like you to a frenzy because now of this gathering Trump is a white nationalist.

 

[UNCjigga]

Remember who we're dealing with here... screaming "progressives" so riddled with 'white guilt' that they celebrate the extinction of white males.
Anything less than full support for THAT gets them hurling insults at you, calling you "white supremacist" etc.

Lena Dunham:

I love it when she trolls y'all so superficially and yet Pepe Nation still gets their panties in a wad!! ROFL.

Wanna save the white race? Move to Germany or Scandinavia and help offset all those Muslims moving in. America doesn't need your kind.


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[Sheik Yerbouti]

Ahhh I see how it works now. During Obamas presidency, black nationalists could publicly call for murdering whites, work at the DHS while mainting white genocide websites (guy was eventually fired), Obama could march with a black nationalist leader who sports a "kill whitey" tattoo.... but all of a sudden the media.... who has probably ignored this group the last decade... suddenly whips people like you to a frenzy because now of this gathering Trump is a white nationalist.

links?

 

[jackstar7]

So you're going to keep following the progressive mindset (as commanded) and keep pretending there is NO conflict of interest between islam and the western world. None. Germany's turmoil is because of white people.
Right.

There are problems and he wants to try to DEAL with them. Carefully. Appropriately.

The progressive collective approach is to throw open the borders, let them all in an smother them with love... and they'll magically appreciate you and instantly become model taxpaying citizens.


Citation needed.


Hyperbole from the left. As much as you can shovel.

You want to equate Trump with KKK/White supremacists/etc? Get back to us when HE endorses THEM, not vice-versa.

Get back to you, Canadians? Nah, this is our problem. We'll handle it.

 

[jackstar7]

Ahhh I see how it works now. During Obamas presidency, black nationalists could publicly call for murdering whites, work at the DHS while mainting white genocide websites (guy was eventually fired), Obama could march with a black nationalist leader who sports a "kill whitey" tattoo.... but all of a sudden the media.... who has probably ignored this group the last decade... suddenly whips people like you to a frenzy because now of this gathering Trump is a white nationalist.

Distinction here: were they doing all that in Obama's name?

 

[UNCjigga]

Distinction here: were they doing all that in Obama's name?

He's posting the same "fake news" that Breitbart has been trolling since 2007 and even conservative rag "Washington Times" dismissed as utterly false back then. I know it's hard to kick the fake news habit when you can't read "lamestream media" but c'mon guys, at least come up with something new??

"Kill Whitey" guy is Maruse Heath aka "King Malik Shabazz" (ROFL) who happened to be in a sea of people crossing the bridge to Selma in a civil rights March. You see, when you cross a narrow bridge and get packed together, you could potentially be photographed with a New Black Panther Party leader behind you. Who'd have thought they show up to a MLK march??? Of course Breitbart spins it as "President Obama marches with Black Separatist with Kill Whitey tattoo!".

Keep in mind the same guys ran a photoshopped photo of President Obama's head on some guy in full black Panther paramilitary garb holding a gun.

The difference is back then Obama and the administration didn't hesitate to disavow and condemn these groups and their views.


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[jackstar7]

Turns out the salutes were "ironic" and we've known about the use of irony and anti-semetism since the 40s. Glad to see fascists demonstrate an actual stagnation of thoughts and methods. It does mean they ought to be easier to defeat before they really get going this time.

https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/800871773436723200


In case you're tweetphobic:
Sartre's Anti-Semite & Jew excerpted below:

The anti‐Semite has chosen hate because hate is a faith; at the outset he has chosen to devaluate words and reasons. How entirely at ease he feels as a result. How futile and frivolous discussions about the rights of the Jew appear to him. He has placed himself on other ground from the beginning. If out of courtesy he consents for a moment to defend his point of view, he lends himself but does not give himself. He tries simply to project his intuitive certainty onto the plane of discourse. I mentioned awhile back some remarks by anti‐Semites, all of them absurd: "I hate Jews because they make servants insubordinate, because a Jewish furrier robbed me, etc." Never believe that anti‐Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti‐Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.

 

[jackstar7]

"Saying that the Nazi-saluters were just "a small group" is like saying that a football team only has the fans you can see in the stadium." - B. Dardai

 

[Homerboy]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...growth-isis-islamic-state-study-a7223671.html

The number of white nationalists and self-identified Nazi sympathisers on Twitter have multiplied more than 600 per cent in the last four years, outperforming the so-called Islamic State (Isis) in everything from follower counts to number of daily tweets, a new study found.

...

These accounts saw a sharp increase in followers, from about 3,500 in 2012 to 22,000 in 2016. The study notes that while Isis stood out for its outreach and recruitment using Twitter since the group’s emergence a few years ago, white nationalist groups have excelled in the medium.

 

[JSt0rm]

So you're going to keep following the progressive mindset (as commanded) and keep pretending there is NO conflict of interest between islam and the western world. None. Germany's turmoil is because of white people.
Right.

There are problems and he wants to try to DEAL with them. Carefully. Appropriately.

The progressive collective approach is to throw open the borders, let them all in an smother them with love... and they'll magically appreciate you and instantly become model taxpaying citizens.


Citation needed.


Hyperbole from the left. As much as you can shovel.

You want to equate Trump with KKK/White supremacists/etc? Get back to us when HE endorses THEM, not vice-versa.

^^^^ russian propagandist.

 

[umbrella39]

^^^^ russian propagandist.

Add boring and underwhelming emasculated cuck victim... Typical Beta Max. Obsolete...

 

[VRAMdemon]

Most Trump supporters aren't into the White Nationalism thing. Those are the people "passively" hoping that Trump represents a genuine change and a better America.

They key word being "passively", because the small contingent of true White Nationalists are mobilizing, organizing, polishing their rhetoric, and aggressively leading the movement. Which means that, even if most Trump Republicans aren't White Nationalists, they are, most likely going to fall in line with whatever Trumps agenda is. Even if it includes White Nationalists.

 

[PokerGuy]

Bannon is quoted back in July by Sarah Posner. Now I'm sure you will continue condoning having a white supremacist supporter in the White House


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/stephen-bannon-donald-trump-alt-right-breitbart-news

Oh, so you lied. He didn't say anything about white supremacists. He said a platform for the alt-right. Your definition of what "alt-right" means is not his definition. You lefties just keep spewing lies and smearing everyone in the administration, but you're not realizing it's backfiring: when *real* issues come up (and they will!) no matter what you say nobody's going to listen to you because you spend all this time telling us Trump is Hitler and other such garbage.

 

[jackstar7]

Oh, so you lied. He didn't say anything about white supremacists. He said a platform for the alt-right. Your definition of what "alt-right" means is not his definition. You lefties just keep spewing lies and smearing everyone in the administration, but you're not realizing it's backfiring: when *real* issues come up (and they will!) no matter what you say nobody's going to listen to you because you spend all this time telling us Trump is Hitler and other such garbage.

Fancy! What does alt-right mean to you, you cunning linguist?

 

[JSt0rm]

Fancy! What does alt-right mean to you, you cunning linguist?

they are just race realists. They are the victim in all of this.

The reality is the days of white people sipping scotch and mowing down indigenous people with gatling guns is over. And some white people are mad about it.