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Had no idea that kids are still dropping out of HS.

Mai72

Mai72

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I met 3 kids who pump gas in my area. They all dropped out of HS. The one kid at least got his GED. The other two? Nope! What's sad is the one kid's dad pumps gas with him. Father and son . Dad also dropped out of HS as well. I was actually pissed at the father. How could you allow you kid to drop out of HS? He's only 17, and now he's going to have a very difficult life. The only thing they talked about are video games. I can guarantee you guys that if I dropped out of HS my mom would had thrown me out of the house. Now, it seems that these parents coddle these kids. You wanna play video games untl 4am? Why not. You want a hoagie, milkshake, and cake at 11pm? Go for it.

Where is the discipline?
 
Mai72 said:
Where is the discipline?
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People are different. Formal schooling doesn't work for some, their brains simply aren't wired to handle it. Not because they're stupid, I had a classmate in HS who dropped out after the first year, he hated the conformist method of forced learning in schools.

This was a seriously multi-talented guy, he could do anything from wood carving, smithing, metalwork and welding, sewing and so on, up to and including CAD work. Most of it self-taught too. Went on to do interior design and stuff, I dunno what he's up to these days, haven't seen him in 20 years pretty much.
 
where in the world still pumps gas for people?

everywhere i know of quit doing that in the 80s (well except for oregon where its illegal to pump your own)
 
FaaR said:
People are different. Formal schooling doesn't work for some, their brains simply aren't wired to handle it. Not because they're stupid, I had a classmate in HS who dropped out after the first year, he hated the conformist method of forced learning in schools.

This was a seriously multi-talented guy, he could do anything from wood carving, smithing, metalwork and welding, sewing and so on, up to and including CAD work. Most of it self-taught too. Went on to do interior design and stuff, I dunno what he's up to these days, haven't seen him in 20 years pretty much.
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Yea, but I doubt most of the kids who dropout fit the mold of your friend. My dad dropped out of grade school, and went straight to work. You could do that back then. If I had a kid and he/she wanted to drop out I'd give them 10 reasons why they should just complete HS. I get it though .HS is a difficult time for many kids. The one kid that dropped out played WoW back in 2007 for 12-16 hours a day. I blame the parents for that mess. You have to set boundaries. If no boundaries are set, kids will do what they what is fun. It just seems like these parents are setting their kids up for failure. Especially today when you need to be highly skilled to find work. At least get the GED.
 
brianmanahan said:
where in the world still pumps gas for people?

everywhere i know of quit doing that in the 80s (well except for oregon where its illegal to pump your own)
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Oregon and New Jersey. Didn't Oregon try self service last year? In NJ, we are still full serve. I don't know if we will ever go self serve because that would mean a loss of 100k jobs. Currently., NJ is having a horrible time w/ employment. The last thing the state needs are 100k plus gas attendants out of work.
 
Mai72 said:
Yea, but I doubt most of the kids who dropout fit the mold of your friend.
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This guy was very unique, for sure. His whole family was artistically talented in some way or another. Still, lots of people, even stupid people with no genuine talents, can't function in a traditional school environment. That's why they drop out.

Just blaming everything on parents is making things too easy. Sure, some of it is undoubtedly bad parenting, because there's bad people everywhere and many of them have kids. But there's also attention deficit disorders, some of which we now know are affected by environmental poisons produced by modern society and used almost indiscriminately all around us.

Here is one such fairly disturbing news post on the subject.
 
Didn't you also post a thread about how education is meaningless and a scam and how every individual person is capable of being successful in life if left to their own abilities?

Didn't you say that your father has a 4th grade education and is the most successful person you know?

hmm...maybe that's a lesson for you--while you go and judge this dad for being irresponsible, rationally, you also hold up your dad as some useful example of how his life can apply to everyone, somehow!

one wonders why you don't recognize the inherent problems when you deign to give advice to people.
 
I dropped out of HS too. As my guidance counselor once told me "school is not for everyone"...

Best decision I ever made! Received my GED soon after, spent 4 well placed years in the military, attended college afterwards, and now am a fairly successful small business owner.

Point being, staying in school and getting a good education is always the best plan, but for some (including myself), need a kick in the real world pants to fully understand/commit to education.

Edit: My parents were obviously upset, but had no real choice. I was young, knew everything, and was going to do what I wanted to do...
 
Many of histories millionaire/billionaires were drop outs. Should you use wealth as a gauge of success? Not in my opinion, but having said that, it is the case for some of them.
 
There's a lot of stupid people raising more stupid people. Then, there are intelligent people who can't see beyond themselves. Racism and income gaps. People with accumulated wealth who don't do anything with it except make more. None of these things advance society, make it more resilient or, create a better standard of living. When do we start doing something about it instead of complaining about someone else not doing something?
 
brianmanahan said:
i had to fly to secaucus just once and took a taxi into NYC.

cabbie told me how "f'ing harrible" it was on the jersey side, so i've stayed away ever since.
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It's actually got some great stuff. NYC is a blast to be close to for all the amazing shit to do (pre-Covid) without living in a tiny city apartment and being able to get away from the hustle and bustle if you want. Then you got beaches not that far south, then mountains and hiking and outdoor activities not far to the north and west. Because it's pretty diverse if you don't go too far away from the city, you get quite a lot of ethnic food options that are good too. Peppered throughout northern NJ are also some cool suburban towns with great restaurant scenes. I find it a pretty great place to live.



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MrSquished said:
It's actually got some great stuff. NYC is a blast to be close to for all the amazing shit to do (pre-Covid) without living in a tiny city apartment and being able to get away from the hustle and bustle if you want. Then you got beaches not that far south, then mountains and hiking and outdoor activities not far to the north and west. Because it's pretty diverse if you don't go too far away from the city, you get quite a lot of ethnic food options that are good too. Peppered throughout northern NJ are also some cool suburban towns with great restaurant scenes. I find it a pretty great place to live.



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Zero interest in going to New Jersey. Had the misfortune of having layover in Newark once. One of the worst airport I've seen in my life.
 
ponyo said:
Zero interest in going to New Jersey. Had the misfortune of having layover in Newark once. One of the worst airport I've seen in my life.
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Genius statement and observation. Because when you live in a state, you live at the airport. Oy vey.

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MrSquished said:
Genius statement and observation. Because when you live in a state, you live at the airport. Oy vey.

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Airport is first impression. If New Jersey doesn't want to be considered armpit of America, they need to clean up the shitty airport.
 
MrSquished said:
Genius statement and observation. Because when you live in a state, you live at the airport. Oy vey.
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hey it happened to tom hanks
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MrSquished said:
It's actually got some great stuff. NYC is a blast to be close to for all the amazing shit to do (pre-Covid) without living in a tiny city apartment and being able to get away from the hustle and bustle if you want. Then you got beaches not that far south, then mountains and hiking and outdoor activities not far to the north and west. Because it's pretty diverse if you don't go too far away from the city, you get quite a lot of ethnic food options that are good too. Peppered throughout northern NJ are also some cool suburban towns with great restaurant scenes. I find it a pretty great place to live.
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that's cool, if i can ever get around again i might give it a go for a short drive-thru vacation
 
ponyo said:
Airport is first impression. If New Jersey doesn't want to be considered armpit of America, they need to clean up the shitty airport.
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The airport is in the midst of a multi billion dollar renovation that includes two new terminals.

Regardless, I've heard various people call Jersey the armpit of America, meanwhile they live in some flat flyover state with a fraction of the amenities northern Jersey offers. Their idea of culture is a Chile's in some strip mall or access to some little city that's a podunk village compared to the . I just chuckle inside.

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New Jersey is just fine with sufficient income. Everybody thinks Newark and Paterson when they think of it but there's plenty of very, very nice areas too where you drive through and say 'oh fuck I'm poor.'

IMO if you are of the right age, mindset, and skill level to take advantage of the opportunity density it's a great place to be.

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