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I tried to get sleep working again today, but no luck. It never really worked on .6 or .7 either. I tried several netkas drivers for my 4850, but all that happens when it goes to sleep is that the screen is turned of, fans and hd still run and usb is turned off to, so I can't "revive" the machine. I wish I could get it to run. I read that a proper DSDT file could help, but here on this forum dsdt appears to be deprecated. Do other people have sleep issues with their DS3L too?
 

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Originally posted by: renderingrocks
3 monitors! OOHHH! Make sure you post a picture. Are you running 2 video cards? Which ones?

btw, how do you do the reply to in this forum? Am I blind not seeing it?

I will do a pic when I have it finished. As for the reply, are you talking about Quote? If you hit Quote it puts the person's message in a quote box above like yours is above. If you do a Reply it just does a simple reply with no quoted text. HTH

And Edit allows you to go back and add something you forgot, like the video cards you asked about. Right now I have an EVGA 8400GS in the UD3P and a 7200GS in the DS3L. Both will do dual monitors, but I may upgrade the UD3P to a better video card to see if this cures my update to 10.5.8 problems.
 

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Originally posted by: Gymnae
I tried to get sleep working again today, but no luck. It never really worked on .6 or .7 either. I tried several netkas drivers for my 4850, but all that happens when it goes to sleep is that the screen is turned of, fans and hd still run and usb is turned off to, so I can't "revive" the machine. I wish I could get it to run. I read that a proper DSDT file could help, but here on this forum dsdt appears to be deprecated. Do other people have sleep issues with their DS3L too?

If I'm not mistaken, the DSDT.AML file was included for at least one of the DS3L kits. There is also a DSDT file maker available if you need to roll your own. You can find more info on it here:

http://tinyurl.com/c9de3b

I personally never use sleep so all this concern doesn't bother me all that much, but I understand the need for your system to work as it is supposed to. :confused: HTH
 
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Originally posted by: mosslack
Originally posted by: renderingrocks
3 monitors! OOHHH! Make sure you post a picture. Are you running 2 video cards? Which ones?

btw, how do you do the reply to in this forum? Am I blind not seeing it?

I will do a pic when I have it finished. As for the reply, are you talking about Quote? If you hit Quote it puts the person's message in a quote box above like yours is above. If you do a Reply it just does a simple reply with no quoted text. HTH

And Edit allows you to go back and add something you forgot, like the video cards you asked about. Right now I have an EVGA 8400GS in the UD3P and a 7200GS in the DS3L. Both will do dual monitors, but I may upgrade the UD3P to a better video card to see if this cures my update to 10.5.8 problems.


thanks for the forum lesson, I had no clue what quote did.

You need 2 cards, right? 3 monitors.or one of those usb monitor adapters. like this http://eshop.macsales.com/item...20Computing/VIDU2DVIA/

If you used 2 identical video cards, the one driver should work, right? I have always wanted a 3 or 4 monitor set up and surround yourself in the action!
 

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Glad I could help. Yeah the UD3P has 2 PCI express slots so that won't be a problem. As for the DS3L, I'm not sure how I will handle it, but I can always add a plain jane PCI video card if need be. This is all a work in progress so I may have to make some compromises to get what I want. The USB solution might be something to consider.

Yeah I've always wanted that mad scientist setup myself, but the old CRT monitors were just too bulky and took up so much space. Should be cool once I have it all setup, I hope. :shocked:
 

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Originally posted by: Gymnae
I tried to get sleep working again today, but no luck. It never really worked on .6 or .7 either. I tried several netkas drivers for my 4850, but all that happens when it goes to sleep is that the screen is turned of, fans and hd still run and usb is turned off to, so I can't "revive" the machine. I wish I could get it to run. I read that a proper DSDT file could help, but here on this forum dsdt appears to be deprecated. Do other people have sleep issues with their DS3L too?

Not after i got rid of my ati card... also everything works better in linux
 

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Originally posted by: KeypoX
Originally posted by: Gymnae
I tried to get sleep working again today, but no luck. It never really worked on .6 or .7 either. I tried several netkas drivers for my 4850 [...] Do other people have sleep issues with their DS3L too?

Not after i got rid of my ati card... also everything works better in linux

Naaah, not an option. The ATI gotta do, users on #radeonhd in irc reported they get sleep to work, must be something in kaido's package or so...
 

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Originally posted by: Gymnae
...must be something in kaido's package or so...
Sleep has worked fine in previous versions, yet you say it never worked for you in 10.5.6 and 10.5.7.

 

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Originally posted by: mosslack
I will do a pic when I have it finished.
Can't wait to see the multiple monitors!

As for the DS3L or other boards without two PCIe slots- I'm fairly certain that PCI graphic cards don't work in OSX. I could be wrong, but I'd certainly look into it before investing in a PCI graphics card.

 
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it seems to me we need to stick with configurations that came in intel based macs. Example, using the pata controller causes kernel panics which I can confirm. Why is it not compatible, IMHO apple never had an intel based machine with a pata bus. If you need pata, i bet a pci controller card would work. Im not sure about the graphics though. I dont have pci card to try.Just agp.
 

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Originally posted by: Zaap
Originally posted by: Gymnae
...must be something in kaido's package or so...
Sleep has worked fine in previous versions, yet you say it never worked for you in 10.5.6 and 10.5.7.

The thing is, that the parts of my computer are all on the lists of recommended hardware. I followed kaido's guide and package and didn't do anything else but using netkas driver for the 4850 and still sleep never worked. Sure, the error might be on my side, but maybe there is some hidden quirk that only appears when certain hardware plays together...
 

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Originally posted by: Zaap
Originally posted by: mosslack
I will do a pic when I have it finished.
Can't wait to see the multiple monitors!

As for the DS3L or other boards without two PCIe slots- I'm fairly certain that PCI graphic cards don't work in OSX. I could be wrong, but I'd certainly look into it before investing in a PCI graphics card.

Guess we will find out for sure as it's already ordered. None of the PCI express x1 video cards that NewEgg has are supported either, so if the PCI card doesn't work it looks like I might have to try the USB solution. I could not find any nvidea PCI Express x1 video cards, don't they make them?
 
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Originally posted by: mosslack
Originally posted by: Zaap
Originally posted by: mosslack
I will do a pic when I have it finished.
Can't wait to see the multiple monitors!

As for the DS3L or other boards without two PCIe slots- I'm fairly certain that PCI graphic cards don't work in OSX. I could be wrong, but I'd certainly look into it before investing in a PCI graphics card.

Guess we will find out for sure as it's already ordered. None of the PCI express x1 video cards that NewEgg has are supported either, so if the PCI card doesn't work it looks like I might have to try the USB solution. I could not find any nvidea PCI Express x1 video cards, don't they make them?


I hope it all works out. But now the big question. What is the delivery date for the goodies?
 

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Originally posted by: renderingrocks
Originally posted by: mosslack
Originally posted by: Zaap
Originally posted by: mosslack
I will do a pic when I have it finished.
Can't wait to see the multiple monitors!

As for the DS3L or other boards without two PCIe slots- I'm fairly certain that PCI graphic cards don't work in OSX. I could be wrong, but I'd certainly look into it before investing in a PCI graphics card.

Guess we will find out for sure as it's already ordered. None of the PCI express x1 video cards that NewEgg has are supported either, so if the PCI card doesn't work it looks like I might have to try the USB solution. I could not find any nvidea PCI Express x1 video cards, don't they make them?


I hope it all works out. But now the big question. What is the delivery date for the goodies?

Pretty sure it will work, just may have to go with a different mobo, one which will support 2 PCIe video cards. Check down this link for screenshots of someone else who did it:

http://tinyurl.com/nftor7

Question was for identical cards, but someone else did it with non-identical cards.

As for when it will be here, monitors Tuesday, not sure about the card as I just ordered it today. My monitor mounts will be here Friday.
 

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I lost sound with the 10.5.8 upgrade on my GA-EP45-UD3P.

I tried applying Kaido's UD3P kit, but it didn't work.

This is the first time I've tried the UD3P package - in the past, I've just done each upgrade manually.

Usually, I have to download the ALC998a kexts, but that didn't work either.

In my sound output prefs, I only see something called "Soundflower" (2 and 16 channel). I've never seen that before. Usually I have the option for optical out, headphone out, etc.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

 

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Originally posted by: mosslack I could not find any nvidea PCI Express x1 video cards, don't they make them?
There are a couple of Quadro workstation cards on newegg if you do a search for PCIe 1x video card, but no idea if they're compatible or not.

The price of the 1x cards is so high it would make way more economic sense to just upgrade to another UD3P board- on average $120!

 

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Originally posted by: Zaap
Originally posted by: mosslack I could not find any nvidea PCI Express x1 video cards, don't they make them?
There are a couple of Quadro workstation cards on newegg if you do a search for PCIe 1x video card, but no idea if they're compatible or not.

The price of the 1x cards is so high it would make way more economic sense to just upgrade to another UD3P board- on average $120!

If I end up having to get another board it will be something different. I've been looking around and there are a lot of possibilities. I'll wait until I'm sure it doesn't work this way before moving on to the next stage. I could always use the USB solution suggested earlier which might work.
 

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Okay, I've tried to update the UD3P once more. Went back and reinstalled OS X, used the combo update to 10.5.8, ran the Uinstaller and now I have it, but no sound and video limited. The displays listed available to me in the menu bar are 1400x1050@60Hz, 1440x900@75Hz and 1600x1200@60Hz. If I go into the displays pref I can choose the correct resolution (1680x1050) for my monitor, but when it attempts to change I end up with a blue screen. Rebooting gives me the "You need to restart" message. Under 10.5.7 I could change the refresh rate to 60 Hz and then I could use that resolution. But under 10.5.8 this no longer works. Am I destined to stay with 10.5.7 or forced to use a crappy resolution under 10.5.8? I realize all this may change when the new monitors get here, but I still want it to work as it should with my current monitor. Anyone?

Edit: I just tried another resolution listed in the displays menu bar 1600x1200@60Hz and that also produces a blue screen and subsequent restart gives the dreaded restart message. So obviously it is not detecting the display properly even though it lists the correct model number for my monitor.
 
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I did the same thing with my ud3p, fresh install os 10.5.6, i updated to .7 with the delta, then ran software update to .8. repaired permissions after each step. I do get 1680x1050 @60Hz on my dell 2005fpw with the 9800GT card. Restarts are fine. Just no sound and comatose sleep. I don't have the experience most have on this board have but did try a few things an didn't have success. If the sleep worked, I would buy the usb audio adapter and run it. I'm fine with the performance of 10.5.7 and will wait it out until I hear otherwise. But like you, I want the latest but this a drawback to the hackintosh community.

I'm posting from my macbook, on 10.5.8 and don't see any improvements. This was an under the hood update..
 
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I am curious to how much time is spent at apple to throw a wrench in the works with the hackintosh community. 10.5.7 was an embarrassment to them improving battery life on the netbooks. So it just makes me wonder.
 

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Originally posted by: renderingrocks
I am curious to how much time is spent at apple to throw a wrench in the works with the hackintosh community. 10.5.7 was an embarrassment to them improving battery life on the netbooks. So it just makes me wonder.

Actually I don't believe the powers that be at Apple worry too much about us. We are a very, very small group of hackers and they are after the big fish. I think they are focused on improving their products to make more money. If it throws a monkey wrench in our efforts I'm sure they could care less. JMHO
 

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Originally posted by: renderingrocks
I did the same thing with my ud3p, fresh install os 10.5.6, i updated to .7 with the delta, then ran software update to .8. repaired permissions after each step. I do get 1680x1050 @60Hz on my dell 2005fpw with the 9800GT card. Restarts are fine. Just no sound and comatose sleep. I don't have the experience most have on this board have but did try a few things an didn't have success. If the sleep worked, I would buy the usb audio adapter and run it. I'm fine with the performance of 10.5.7 and will wait it out until I hear otherwise. But like you, I want the latest but this a drawback to the hackintosh community.

I'm posting from my macbook, on 10.5.8 and don't see any improvements. This was an under the hood update..

Sound I'm not worried about either, I know it will work, but this monitor problem is truly a puzzle to me. It has to be related to my monitor as I have tried different video cards and others are not having the same problems. I will be testing using one of the new monitors before I go for the 3 monitor setup to see if I can resolve this problem.
 

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Originally posted by: mosslack
Okay, I've tried to update the UD3P once more. Went back and reinstalled OS X, used the combo update to 10.5.8, ran the Uinstaller and now I have it, but no sound and video limited. The displays listed available to me in the menu bar are 1400x1050@60Hz, 1440x900@75Hz and 1600x1200@60Hz. If I go into the displays pref I can choose the correct resolution (1680x1050) for my monitor, but when it attempts to change I end up with a blue screen. Rebooting gives me the "You need to restart" message. Under 10.5.7 I could change the refresh rate to 60 Hz and then I could use that resolution. But under 10.5.8 this no longer works. Am I destined to stay with 10.5.7 or forced to use a crappy resolution under 10.5.8? I realize all this may change when the new monitors get here, but I still want it to work as it should with my current monitor. Anyone?

Edit: I just tried another resolution listed in the displays menu bar 1600x1200@60Hz and that also produces a blue screen and subsequent restart gives the dreaded restart message. So obviously it is not detecting the display properly even though it lists the correct model number for my monitor.

I'm at 10.5.8 on my UD3P (9800GTX) and am still using 1920x1200@60Hz. The other resolutions available to me are 1600x1000@60 and 1600x1200@60. Since reading your post, I am not going to tempt fate by playing around w/ it, since 1920x1200 is my preferred resolution on my Dell 2407.

But the lack of sound is getting to me. I tried copying over old versions of HDAEnabler, LegacyHDAController and LegacyHDAPlatformDriver to no avail. I've tried it both with and without ACLInject. Since I don't really understand what these kext files do, this is just a crapshoot. But given that I can't find anyone else with 10.5.8 + UD3P + working sound, maybe it goes beyond just replacing the new with the old. Any other ideas?
 
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Originally posted by: mosslack
Originally posted by: renderingrocks
I did the same thing with my ud3p, fresh install os 10.5.6, i updated to .7 with the delta, then ran software update to .8. repaired permissions after each step. I do get 1680x1050 @60Hz on my dell 2005fpw with the 9800GT card. Restarts are fine. Just no sound and comatose sleep. I don't have the experience most have on this board have but did try a few things an didn't have success. If the sleep worked, I would buy the usb audio adapter and run it. I'm fine with the performance of 10.5.7 and will wait it out until I hear otherwise. But like you, I want the latest but this a drawback to the hackintosh community.

I'm posting from my macbook, on 10.5.8 and don't see any improvements. This was an under the hood update..

Sound I'm not worried about either, I know it will work, but this monitor problem is truly a puzzle to me. It has to be related to my monitor as I have tried different video cards and others are not having the same problems. I will be testing using one of the new monitors before I go for the 3 monitor setup to see if I can resolve this problem.


When I first assembled my hack, The 9800 card on the dvi output gave me no video. I just thought it was not compatible but decided to try the dvi-vga adapter. I suddenly had all resolutions on the vga port. This still bugged me and after hours of google and thought I simply reset the monitor to factory defaults. Hooked up the dvi cable and now it's fine. I overthought it. So, try the vga adapter and see if changes anything.
 
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