H70 vs. Venomous-X and the winner is?

[Rubycon]

I've read some complaints about whining on the H70. Is this from the stock fans? Or from air moving through the radiator?

With no fan mine is inaudible. Noise complaints are probably emanating from the supplied fans. At full speed they are definitely noticeable. Nothing I'd consider loud by any stretch though.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

lol yeah, the H70 fans are more than tolerable relative to other stock components (GTX470 I'm looking at you :wub

I actually don't mind a bit of sound from my computer as long as it isn't louder than a gentle white noise.

IMO the H70 (and H50) is more about getting high performance in confined space without wanting to shell out for a full on water setup more than it is about reducing noise.

People wanting absolute speed and silence will never be happy unless they're willing to shovel money at it and/or just build their computer into its own sound proofed room.

 

[muskie32]

Will the H70 work with This case?

 

[rolodomo]

lol yeah, the H70 fans are more than tolerable relative to other stock components (GTX470 I'm looking at you :wub

I actually don't mind a bit of sound from my computer as long as it isn't louder than a gentle white noise.

IMO the H70 (and H50) is more about getting high performance in confined space without wanting to shell out for a full on water setup more than it is about reducing noise.

Yes, I just finished silencing a "gaming" HTPC, and I absolutely had to ditch the supplied Corsair H70 fans. I replaced them with a single 1200 rpm scythe s-flex, which was significantly quieter than using even one Corsair fan. I lost about 5-7 deg. C in performance though, so in the end I had to dial-out of lot of the H70's peformance (and upgrade one fan) to make it work in a silent PC. I'm not upset though, I bought the H70 to experiment with it and it is a very nice piece of engineering. The default fans would have been acceptable to me in a desktop environment, for exampe.

Anyway, thanks mostly to the H70, a mushasi VGA cooler, and last, but not least, a seasonic X-650, I've got one mean little HTPC that purs along quietly and cooly even when cranking out the frames at 400 watts.

 

[rolodomo]

Will the H70 work with This case?

I just installed a H70 and I have an older HAF 932 (didn't install the H70 into that case however). It should work no problem, although you have many other options with that case.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

lol yeah, the H70 fans are more than tolerable relative to other stock components (GTX470 I'm looking at you :wub

I actually don't mind a bit of sound from my computer as long as it isn't louder than a gentle white noise.

IMO the H70 (and H50) is more about getting high performance in confined space without wanting to shell out for a full on water setup more than it is about reducing noise.

People wanting absolute speed and silence will never be happy unless they're willing to shovel money at it and/or just build their computer into its own sound proofed room.

Everyone's idea of noise is different. No gamer is looking for a silent, super overclocked, cool running tower as it's virtually impossible. But a good overclock and very quiet is certainly possible, especially with full on water cooling but even with air it's doable.

You could replace both fans on the H70 with quieter one's and still get good numbers. All case fans can be replaced with quieter one's. The only thing that should stand out is the GPU, unless you replace it with an aftermarket cooler. And the sound of the GPU doesn't magically make other components quieter. It all gets added together whether a person notices it or not.

 

[bleucharm28]

it would be nice if they make 2-120 radiator. That would definitely give me the excuse to build backup PC.

 

[RussianSensation]

Impressive. I'd like to see the H70 vs Arrow w/2x GT vs nh-d14 w/2x GT

Agreed.

I don't think the Venomous X is the competition for the H70. H70 has 2x120mm fans and costs $90-100. Therefore, its primary competitors are Thermalright Silver Arrow, Noctua NH-D14, Thermalright HR-02. How would H70 do against these 3 best of the best air coolers in terms of noise and performance and price? Probably not so good.

980X @ 4.4ghz at 1.44V at a cool 75*C.

It doesn't hurt that the SA also comes with 2 of the best 140mm fans for a reasonable $79.99.

 

[plion]

what about the V6 GT any good?

 

[ClockHound]

what about the V6 GT any good?

Seems very good. From the hardwarecanucks review, the V6 bests even the H70 for $40 less.
V6 GT Dual Stock Fans: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...cooler-master-v6-gt-cpu-cooler-review-12.html
H70 Dual Stock Fans: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...25-corsair-hydro-h70-cpu-cooler-review-9.html

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Seems very good. From the hardwarecanucks review, the V6 bests even the H70 for $40 less.
V6 GT Dual Stock Fans: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...cooler-master-v6-gt-cpu-cooler-review-12.html
H70 Dual Stock Fans: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...25-corsair-hydro-h70-cpu-cooler-review-9.html

it bests the H70 when the H70 is in a case and the V6 GT is in open air.

Just look at those results, the Venomous X is tested in both and in the test that includes the H70 the Venomous X is 6-8C warmer than the test with the V6GT.

of course no matter how you look at it, when using the same fans, the V6 GT is essentially on par with the Venomous X and Megahalems which certainly is good company.

 

[RaistlinZ]

Are the V6's not commonly sold in the U.S.? I hardly ever see anyone listing one in their Sig. Is it due to just poor marketing? VX, Megahalems, H50/H70 all seem to have their niche and place, but not so much for the V6.

 

[Campy]

V6GT and V8 are both very good air coolers. Here's a test http://www.hardware.no/artikler/cooler_master_v6_gt/77582/4

 

[Arsynic]

Absolutely correct.

When I say fan configuration I'm debating single vs. double, type of fan, etc. I'm finding that a single fan PULLING air through the radiator is actually winning!

There is no reason to mount it drawing air in. If there is that much difference in temperature between air inside your case and outside you already have a problem and dumping the heat from the CPU is just going to make things much worse in a hurry!

The RV02/FT02 by far have the lowest internal temperatures of any case out of the box!

It's a straight shot for air drawn in the bottom to reach the H70 radiator with these cases.

I cannot believe how cool my 480s run even overclocked.

The AX1200 is also quite a performer but that's another story for another time...

It's definately case-dependent. I'm using a CM 690 II and the front intake fan is primarily for the HDDs which end up blocking the intake airflow. I'm trying to keep fans at a minimum so mounting intakes on the side panel is out of the picture. My solution is to replace the stock top-panel 120 on the 690 with a 2000 RPM Scythe as an exhaust. I'll then use another Scythe 120 on the back of the rad for intake and the Corsair stock on the front of the rad in a push-pull.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

of course no matter how you look at it, when using the same fans, the V6 GT is essentially on par with the Venomous X and Megahalems which certainly is good company.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.p...sk=view&id=560&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=4

Not in this review (tested inside a case). The 1 Yate Loon D12SH-12 fan they used runs at 2200 RPM and both the Venomous and Megahalems beat the V6 by 4.5 and 4.9 degrees. Even the Mugen 2 pulled ahead by 3.2. Actually the stock fan results weren't impressive either.

A good cooler it may be, but it only shines when it's 2 fans are running @ 2200 RPM which is noise most people don't want in there machine.

Though when looking at HC's review the same could be said for the H70. With the Venomous and H70 both using dual NF-P12's @ 1300 RPM it's basically a wash. In that case the Venomous or Megahalem would be a much better value (when replacing the overpriced Notua's with Tyhpoons or TY-140's). Hell, even the H50 bested the H70. And unless the pump is absurdly audible, Corsair would do well to also offer the H50 & H70 without fans.

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/akg/water_cooling/H70/dual.png

 

[94c.4ap6]

Check these 2 reviews please, H70 and V6GT are nothing comparing with Venomous X and Silver Arrow

http://tinyurl.com/233qv97

http://tinyurl.com/3xc9d66

 

[Davsurferdude]

it bests the H70 when the H70 is in a case and the V6 GT is in open air.

Just look at those results, the Venomous X is tested in both and in the test that includes the H70 the Venomous X is 6-8C warmer than the test with the V6GT.

of course no matter how you look at it, when using the same fans, the V6 GT is essentially on par with the Venomous X and Megahalems which certainly is good company.

Absolutely rubbish review..
i don't understand why V6GT is even here to compare,
see this review
http://www.guru3d.com/article/thermalright-hr02-review/7
Venomous X lose to V6GT as well,
but who cares to bother reading the DBA part,
here Venomous X was attached with one FDB 1600 only,
whereas V6GT comes with too god damn noisy 2200rpm fan,
http://www.guru3d.com/article/thermalright-hr02-review/8

Venomous X will whip any of the H70 or V6GT if you just pair it with let's say 2 Gentle Typhoons any day!

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Absolutely rubbish review..
i don't understand why V6GT is even here to compare,
see this review
http://www.guru3d.com/article/thermalright-hr02-review/7
Venomous X lose to V6GT as well,
but who cares to bother reading the DBA part,
here Venomous X was attached with one FDB 1600 only,
whereas V6GT comes with too god damn noisy 2200rpm fan,
http://www.guru3d.com/article/thermalright-hr02-review/8

Venomous X will whip any of the H70 or V6GT if you just pair it with let's say 2 Gentle Typhoons any day!

Any review that doesn't keep the variables exactly the same or at least very similar is rubbish. However, guru3d tests at 80% fan speed for all coolers. Though it would certainly help if they put actual fan, fan speed, and how many fans for each cooler in their graphs...

Those tests posted by 94c.4ap6 above, albeit somewhat hard to understand, seemed very thorough. They even tested passive cooling with different case air flow. Nice.

 

[vanilla guerilla]

i have had a true black, which is pretty close to a v-x, and i got an h70 the other day. the h70 completely blows it away in a lanboy air case. my idle temps are around 6c lower (a suprise) and load temps are averaging over 10c better. i am really impressed. this is the only coolermaster product i have ever owned, in 12 years of building pc's.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

i have had a true black, which is pretty close to a v-x, and i got an h70 the other day. the h70 completely blows it away in a lanboy air case. my idle temps are around 6c lower (a suprise) and load temps are averaging over 10c better. i am really impressed. this is the only coolermaster product i have ever owned, in 12 years of building pc's.

More details would be helpful as some people consider noise an issue. Like what fans and how many you were using and if your using the same setup or stock fans on the H70.

 

[RussianSensation]

i have had a true black, which is pretty close to a v-x, and i got an h70 the other day. the h70 completely blows it away in a lanboy air case. my idle temps are around 6c lower (a suprise) and load temps are averaging over 10c better. i am really impressed. this is the only coolermaster product i have ever owned, in 12 years of building pc's.

Great results and 10*C sounds shocking - this is with both coolers tested in the LanBoy Air? Corsair made H-70 though, not Cooler Master. How loud are the 2 fans on the H70?

 

[Triggaaar]

How loud are the 2 fans on the H70?

At full speed (2100) they're pretty annoying (I have an old GC with no fan, so the corsair fans are responsible for all noticable noise).

With no fan mine is inaudible. Noise complaints are probably emanating from the supplied fans. At full speed they are definitely noticeable. Nothing I'd consider loud by any stretch though.

There you go, one of us think they're a bit loud, the other doesn't, so it'll depend on your tolerance levels. If you're used to a GTX470 you'd be happy, but I have a silent GC.


I'm currently running prime (11 hours in) on a 4GHz i7-930. Dropping fan speed from 2100 to 1850 halves the noice (that's just me sitting listening, not with a guage) and causes temps to rise 1 degree on each core (RealTemp).

I'm just making notes on my temps before my GTs arrive (Scythe GT AP-15 1850rpm) and go on the H70, with 1 shroud.

Venomous X will whip any of the H70 or V6GT if you just pair it with let's say 2 Gentle Typhoons any day!

Don't be silly. I really like the Venomous X, and that's wht I'd have got if not going for the space saving H70. I looked at decent reviews comparing the two, and I don't think there was much in it with the same fans on both. What review can you show where both are used with the same fans and settings etc, where the Venomous 'whips' the H70?

 

[Triggaaar]

If I put the 1800RPM GTs on the H70 would it be closer? Probably. Definitely quieter. Time to play...er experiment.

If anything, I'd expect GTs to lower your temps, not let them rise. Sure they're 1850rpm vs 2100, but even the stock Corsair fans only let temps go up 1 degree when chocked to 1850 rpm. Did you do the test?

Also a pair of 1800RPM GTs showed no temperature difference from the stock (noisier) 2000 RPM fans that are included in the kit.

lol, not only did you do the test, I thanked you for it

 

[vanilla guerilla]

Great results and 10*C sounds shocking - this is with both coolers tested in the LanBoy Air? Corsair made H-70 though, not Cooler Master. How loud are the 2 fans on the H70?

sorry - i mean this is the first corsair product i have ever owned. i swapped out the fans for 2x xigmatek http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233046

which are about the same power (61 cfm) and not particularly quiet, but because they match my case (blue blades, black frame). but they are a lot more quiet than the 110cfm coolermaster http://www.svc.com/y720dcd-25t1-gp.html that i used on my true black and for the rear exhaust fan. i dont hear the pump at all. i used these cm fans for everything over the years - they are really powerful, and really cheap. so with my front fans halfway up, and my side fans on full, my case is still pretty dam quiet. these 4 fans are the antec led fans that came with the case. the side are 2 speed, the front are 3 speed.

 

[Bad Dude]

Even with a seal system, I wonder if you still lose water over time?