H1Z1 - may be better than DayZ! from SOE - FTP

[Childs]

SOE should pay you for your effort, anything negative that could be said about this game is just childish complaining in your eyes. Apparently it isn't fair to have an opinion if it isn't positive, heck I guess everyone should just suck it up and smile.

I was thinking he might be employed by SOE in some capacity.

 

[cyphilis]

Started reading reviews on it,.. could not find a single positive one. There were actually positive reviews,.. but they were trolls looking to get "funny" votes and actually negative reivews of the game. Also have a handful of friends that bought it (that all play the DayZ standalone) and everyone of them said its crap and are getting refunds. They all claim its a bad clone of DayZ, almost compares to that floating turd of a game WarZ (infestation stories or whatever they are calling it now).
I'm staying away from this one till its free,.. and I still question why people pay for it when its going to be free once its finished. After thinking about it.. maybe SOE knew they had a big stinker on their hands and thought that maybe the only way to get some return on their effort, is to charge first and hopefully the backlash wouldn't be as bad as it appears it really is.

 

[ThinClient]

SOE should pay you for your effort, anything negative that could be said about this game is just childish complaining in your eyes. Apparently it isn't fair to have an opinion if it isn't positive, heck I guess everyone should just suck it up and smile.

Objectively false.

I have my own objections to this game and the list is long. However, I'm not "childish" enough to exclaim on day 1 of the alpha that it's a failure.

Things will get fixed.

They HAVE been getting fixed. SOE has been working overtime, even on their days off, even on their corporate holidays (today) to get the game working as it should.

You can be angry all you want that I have reasonable and rational counters to most of the objections so far. No skin off my back.

 

[ThinClient]

By releasing a solid title for a one-time fee? Even a small monthly fee like 4.99 wouldn't be too bad if they kept updating at a sufficient rate. I'd obviously prefer a one-time fee.

I would, too. That's my favorite kind of pay model.

That's nice, so they made it free to fluff the player numbers in the game and ended up screwing people like me who want a balanced fun environment, with paid content only being cosmetical things like clothing or music/taunts/weapon skins/etc.

Cosmetical isn't even a word.

Nobody's making you buy this. Nobody's making you play it. Nobody's screwing you. The game IS balanced fun. You can scream pay to win all you want until you're blue in the face but that doesn't make it so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCAUqD8Nb6s

 

[ThinClient]

Started reading reviews on it,.. could not find a single positive one. There were actually positive reviews,.. but they were trolls looking to get "funny" votes and actually negative reivews of the game.

So you couldn't find positive reviews, but you COULD find positive reviews? Which is it?

Yes, nobody gives positive reviews anymore because games have to be epic AAA games to get positive reviews or they have to be done by devs who've slept with the game reviewers or something.

Negative reviews get more money. Negative attitudes are more entertaining.

I'm shocked, I tell you.

WHAT?! A GAME IN ALPHA ISN'T PERFECTLY POLISHED IN EVERY WAY? OH MY GOD STOP THE PRESSES, THERE'S SOMETHING BROKEN? RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!! NERD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!! I'M NOT GETTING MY MONEY'S WORTH!!!! SOMEONE SUE THEM OR SOMETHING!

 

[HumblePie]

I believe the PVE servers while being boring as hell, do serve the purpose of teaching people how to play the game without being constantly ganked. Outside of that there is ZERO reason to play on PVE only servers with these types of games.

The PVE servers do allow people to learn, but they are really BORING right now. The zombies are all the same. I can kill them with my fists pretty easy even if it takes awhile. The crafting is mostly boring and the game play fighting is just lack luster. The later is ky to making a fun PVP game as well. Again, there are far better PVP games out on the market that do this compared to H1Z1 right now. As a whole H1Z1 is boring as hell and anyone that likes this style of play can stick with DayZ or Rust. Yes it's alpha, but this message is for those on the fence of wanting to pay to try the game. If you are on the fence of paying to try, my very STRONG suggestion is DON'T! You'll get a few hours play and then stop while regretting spending the $20 like most of us.

I was really hoping this game with the crafting might be like 7 days to Die but with much better graphics. It isn't. Hopefully they'll do more with the game in the future that might make it fun. Who knows.

 

[ThinClient]

I'd agree with not spending the money right now. In fact, if you're not eager to play this, just wait the 6 months to play it F2P.

 

[5150Joker]

So I played for an hour last night running around looking for any decent loot. Searched many trailers, buildings, cars etc and came up with just a measly backpack, extra shirt, can food and some antibiotics. If this is the way the game is going to be, with good loot extremely difficult to find and people resorting to P2W measures like air drops, then screw this game, it will die out fast.

 

[Harrod]

I hope the that PVE server eventually ends up with something like a massive version of left 4 dead. Like 300 players vs waves of zombies.

 

[ThinClient]

So I played for an hour last night running around looking for any decent loot. Searched many trailers, buildings, cars etc and came up with just a measly backpack, extra shirt, can food and some antibiotics. If this is the way the game is going to be, with good loot extremely difficult to find and people resorting to P2W measures like air drops, then screw this game, it will die out fast.

Surprise, good loot is SUPPOSED to be hard to find. That's why it's GOOD LOOT.

lol.

Air drops, for the billionth time, are not pay to win. Read the thread. Don't let yourself get brainwashed by ignorant reviewers or whiny haters who don't even own the game. There is no pay to win in this game.

I spent an hour this morning on the RIP server and my luck in finding gear was unprecidented. Within an hour, I built 2 animal traps, found an orange backpack with 1000 capacity, built bow and 40 arrows, built fire bow to start fires, found motorcycle helmet, and 7 rounds of .45 ammo, and found like five shirts to shred into bandages and the other materials required to build the previously mentioned stuff.

Just because you look a few places doesn't mean you deserve to find everything. This is a post-apocalypse game. The setting is LONG after the major event. Resources are going to be scarce.

I mean, your argument may as well be "why don't I just spawn with all the best gear?"

 

[ThinClient]

Also, loot is being patched again some time today. See? Players give input, SOE listens and implements the rational fixes very quickly. Can't say that about many games these days!

 

[HumblePie]

So I played for an hour last night running around looking for any decent loot. Searched many trailers, buildings, cars etc and came up with just a measly backpack, extra shirt, can food and some antibiotics. If this is the way the game is going to be, with good loot extremely difficult to find and people resorting to P2W measures like air drops, then screw this game, it will die out fast.

I managed to find a shotgun and a 1911 handgun but no ammo except a bunch of .308 ammo that I don't have a gun for. I did find a machete. Basically you have to go to the tiny little towns and go house by house looking for stuff. You get 1 or 2 pieces of "stuff" every other house it seems. Not a whole lot. In the woods you can find a ton of sticks, branches, and blackberries. Which you can use in crafting. It's hard to craft much without killing animals though which are very rare to find. Also zombies that you can find occasionally at night aren't lootable when you kill them.

 

[ThinClient]

You don't need animals to craft anything but food. The key to crafting anything meaningful in this game is wood products and scrap metal, not animals. How you would claim that you can't craft much without animals is beyond me. The notion doesn't even make sense.

Animals aren't "very rare" at all. If you're running around town, sure they're going to be rare. The moment you step off the road, you should be finding several animals per hour. Like, a dozen animals per hour or something. Animals are even getting a boost in spawn rate here soon, too. Yes, zombies are lootable. Not all of them have loot. There are 2 ways to loot a zombie. One, when you kill them, there's a chance to receive something in your inventory immediately. Two, when they're on the ground, you can hit them with certain items to get things from their corpse.

Most of the time, zombies won't drop anything in either case.

I used a syringe to draw tainted blood from a zombie earlier. I didn't even know you could do that and I don't know what the tainted blood is used for. There's always something more to learn.

Stop passing around FUD.

 

[Dankk]

It saddens me that people are actually spending money on this.

 

[dougp]

It saddens me that people are actually spending money on this.

It saddens you? Why does it sadden you that someone would pay for a game they want to play?

Keep in mind that there's hundreds of Greenlight titles out there with early access that aren't anywhere near as complete or supported as H1Z1 is. With the track record of PlanetSide 2 and EQ2, there's a lot of people who are willing to pay the $20 to test the game and enjoy it for what it's worth. It's probably just as complete as stand-alone DayZ.

 

[ThinClient]

It saddens you? Why does it sadden you that someone would pay for a game they want to play?

Keep in mind that there's hundreds of Greenlight titles out there with early access that aren't anywhere near as complete or supported as H1Z1 is. With the track record of PlanetSide 2 and EQ2, there's a lot of people who are willing to pay the $20 to test the game and enjoy it for what it's worth. It's probably just as complete as stand-alone DayZ.

Owning both, I can easily say that H1Z1 is a hell of a lot more complete than the standalone is. The standalone is a joke.

 

[dougp]

Owning both, I can easily say that H1Z1 is a hell of a lot more complete than the standalone is. The standalone is a joke.

That would be what I was implying - the fact that the standalone has been released for a year, as an alpha product, and was worked on longer than that as well.

 

[ThinClient]

That would be what I was implying - the fact that the standalone has been released for a year, as an alpha product, and was worked on longer than that as well.

It's actually been out longer than a year. It was available for six months before it was "released" that December.

 

[Rinaun]

Owning both, I can easily say that H1Z1 is a hell of a lot more complete than the standalone is. The standalone is a joke.

I'm really not sure if you are being serious comparing Standalone, a game made by czech developers with a abysmally small team, to a game made by SoE in development for almost a year and a half now. This isn't even counting the fact that most people who have played DayZ SA know it's horrid.

TLDR saying this game is better than DayZ SA is like saying dog feces tastes better than cat feces. I'd rather just avoid feces altogether, like most people.

Also, lol at SoE fixing any player issues. I really don't think you know SoE very well, do you? SoE is always doing knee-jerk reactions to what players protest. If anything, sony will just make sure not to make the same mistake in verbally stating they changed their minds on paid item drops.

edit: gonna agree with a few people in this thread. I've noticed people in AT gaming section can't have an opinion without posting a rebuttal to every single negative response. If you are one of them, make sure you realize how much of a fanboy you sound like negating every single criticism of a game in open beta. Go read the wildstar thread again or something if you need an example of several people adamantly saying the game is going to be the best game ever until they were the ONLY PEOPLE posting about the game.

 

[ThinClient]

H1Z1 isn't feces at all. It's probably the best alpha launch I've ever seen and I'm pretty critical of even the games I like. The game is relatively bug-free. There's tons of things to do, for an alpha, and there's more coming. Base building works great, crafting works great, the discovery system is novel (and works great). The dev team, some of whom have yet to even go home since launch, are working tirelessly to tweak the game based on player feedback and they're doing it at an astounding rate. There are daily server and game fixes and tweaks. SOE is busting their balls to get this game done right and they deserve credit for their efforts.

Who cares about the paid drops? They're a non-issue. Beating the dead horse in a desperate attempt to find something to rag on this game about only makes your own position seem less credible. You can even win airdrops by participating in Battle Royale server events so you don't even have to pay to get them. Then again, there are only 3 or so drops out of 15+ that even have weapons, of which you have less than 10% chance to get-if you can even loot your own airdrop in the first place.

This doesn't have anything to do with Wildstar or fanboyism.

Nobody's claiming this is going to be the best game ever.

Your sensational exaggeration is nothing but FUD.

 

[5150Joker]

Surprise, good loot is SUPPOSED to be hard to find. That's why it's GOOD LOOT.

lol.

Air drops, for the billionth time, are not pay to win. Read the thread. Don't let yourself get brainwashed by ignorant reviewers or whiny haters who don't even own the game. There is no pay to win in this game.

I spent an hour this morning on the RIP server and my luck in finding gear was unprecidented. Within an hour, I built 2 animal traps, found an orange backpack with 1000 capacity, built bow and 40 arrows, built fire bow to start fires, found motorcycle helmet, and 7 rounds of .45 ammo, and found like five shirts to shred into bandages and the other materials required to build the previously mentioned stuff.

Just because you look a few places doesn't mean you deserve to find everything. This is a post-apocalypse game. The setting is LONG after the major event. Resources are going to be scarce.

I mean, your argument may as well be "why don't I just spawn with all the best gear?"

Listen dude, three of us spread out across the map for two hours today and barely found anything. This games loot system sucks. If they keep it this way then it's pretty clear they want to push people toward using the air drops aka p2w. Apart from the bullets and backpack, all your loot was garbage too.

 

[imaheadcase]

Listen dude, three of us spread out across the map for two hours today and barely found anything. This games loot system sucks. If they keep it this way then it's pretty clear they want to push people toward using the air drops aka p2w. Apart from the bullets and backpack, all your loot was garbage too.

For the millionth time, you don't know what p2W is obviously. Loot is suppose to be scarce. It took me a hour to find a .308 with ammo. You can also CRAFT weapons, including some guns.

The game is a survival game, not a "GIVE IT TO ME RIGHT NOW!" game. If you don't like it, move on.

Oh its also Alpha and out for less than a week.

 

[5150Joker]

For the millionth time, you don't know what p2W is obviously. Loot is suppose to be scarce. It took me a hour to find a .308 with ammo. You can also CRAFT weapons, including some guns.

The game is a survival game, not a "GIVE IT TO ME RIGHT NOW!" game. If you don't like it, move on.

Oh its also Alpha and out for less than a week.

Yeah good luck crafting a gun if you can't find the raw materials anywhere. A survival game where you spend hours to find a gun only to be ganked by a twelve year old and his buddy using a starter bow? Sounds insanely stupid and it's obvious this is to cater to p2w, not to be some elite survival game. DayZ has plenty of loot spawns and you don't have to spend all day looking for scrap.

 

[dougp]

For the millionth time, you don't know what p2W is obviously. Loot is suppose to be scarce. It took me a hour to find a .308 with ammo. You can also CRAFT weapons, including some guns.

The game is a survival game, not a "GIVE IT TO ME RIGHT NOW!" game. If you don't like it, move on.

Oh its also Alpha and out for less than a week.

Loot is supposed to be scarce? Like, how scarce? I ran around on a PvP server last night, managed to make a wood bow and kill a deer (cause blueberries get stale after awhile.) Can't get any meat because I don't have a knife - ok, cool, let's go find some metal. Oh wait, that's a no go, because despite the metal siding I see leaning on some houses, a few appliances, a couple street signs, and a few run down cars - I apparently can't get any of this convenient metal lying around. Oh, and countless looting of cars/houses resulted in nothing for me as well other than a few bottles of water.

 

[ThinClient]

Loot is supposed to be scarce? Like, how scarce? I ran around on a PvP server last night, managed to make a wood bow and kill a deer (cause blueberries get stale after awhile.) Can't get any meat because I don't have a knife - ok, cool, let's go find some metal. Oh wait, that's a no go, because despite the metal siding I see leaning on some houses, a few appliances, a couple street signs, and a few run down cars - I apparently can't get any of this convenient metal lying around. Oh, and countless looting of cars/houses resulted in nothing for me as well other than a few bottles of water.

So you went looting places that had already been looted recently.

boohoo.