[H]NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN Overclocking Review

[hawtdawg]

Titan sounds gimped.

7970 memory at 1800mhz.. why cant Titan memory go that high?

My Titan had no problems finishing Heaven runs at 1865

 

[Elfear]

You still have to hack the BIOS, but sure, if you want to void your warranty and overclock your GPU to 1600MHz core, then you can beat 680 SLI performance in a single card with no microstutter.

That said, not sure what the life expectancy of a Titan would be at that high OC...maybe 1 year

I doubt you could get anywhere close to 1600Mhz with watercooling. You'd need LN2 and some hardware mods for that. Even 1300Mhz would probably require a hardware mod to bypass the 300W limit of the hacked bios.

 

[Jaydip]

So you guys have any idea how NV measures TDP?

 

[Fx1]

My Titan had no problems finishing Heaven runs at 1865

Stop being misleading. Like your Titan clocks this high without heavy modifications.

 

[willomz]

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/xspc_gtx_titan_waterblock_review/3

Some quite curious results, some games respond very well, others not so much.
Air OC doesn't seem to do much that boost can't do at stock.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Stop being misleading. Like your Titan clocks this high without heavy modifications.

Think hes talking about memory clocks, not the core clock.

 

[hawtdawg]

Stop being misleading. Like your Titan clocks this high without heavy modifications.

If by "heavy" you mean replacing the numbers "265000" with "300000" in the the nvidia bios editor, and then typing "nvflash -4 -5 -6 GK110A.rom" in a command prompt, then yeah I guess you're right. Though technically I don't have to do any of that to run the memory that high by itself.

 

[Fx1]

If by "heavy" you mean replacing the numbers "265000" with "300000" in the the nvidia bios editor, and then typing "nvflash -4 -5 -6 GK110A.rom" in a command prompt, then yeah I guess you're right. Though technically I don't have to do any of that to run the memory that high by itself.

Yes id consider editing the bios as heavy modification. Sure its not a pencil mod or soldering but basically your 1k card warranty is toast You dont need to do those things on AMD to get to 1800.

 

[notty22]

Yes id consider editing the bios as heavy modification. Sure its not a pencil mod or soldering but basically your 1k card warranty is toast You dont need to do those things on AMD to get to 1800.

His original comment was to your typical crapping about anything, this time it was memory speed of Titan. He then informed you of his cards memory o/c, and you babble more ignorant anger. Now it's about bios flashing. Move along.

 

[Fx1]

His original comment was to your typical crapping about anything, this time it was memory speed of Titan. He then informed you of his cards memory o/c, and you babble more ignorant anger. Now it's about bios flashing. Move along.

what ever.

i was commenting on the stories about the memory failing to overclock in conjunction with the GPU which states the card is very TDP limited.

I wouldnt consider bios editing a solution to a 1k GPU that cant clock its GPU and memory at the same time.

 

[Lepton87]

My Titan had no problems finishing Heaven runs at 1865

That's strange, maybe NV uses two GDDR5 suppliers? Is it confirmed what GDDR5 nv uses in Titan or if every titan gets the same memory brand?

 

[blackened23]

That's strange, maybe NV uses two GDDR5 suppliers? Is it confirmed what GDDR5 nv uses in Titan or if every titan gets the same memory brand?

I'm fairly certain the Titan uses Hynix. GDDR5 is produced by Hynix and Samsung. Samsung is substantially more expensive and is on few cards.

I'm also not aware of any overclocking correlations between different GDDR5 brands - yet high density GDDR5 (obviously Titan is high density memory..) is more often than not, hynix.

 

[notty22]

Titan review http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/4.html

The GDDR5 memory chips are made by Samsung and carry the model number K4G20325F0-FC03. They are specified to run at 1500 MHz (6000 MHz GDDR5 effective).

Since NVIDIA sent us three cards for tri-SLI testing, we tested each one individually for maximum overclocking potential. This larger sample size provides a better view on what clock speeds can be expected.

The best card reached 1005 MHz GPU clock (20% overclocking) and 1755 MHz memory (17% overclock).

 

[blackened23]

I see. Has anyone looked into overclocking characteristics of various GDDR5 brands?

 

[Wag]

My 2 don't seem to be overclocking well at all. I'm only getting up to +100 GPU Clock Offset and +70 Mem Clock Offset. Higher than that I pretty much lock up.

 

[hawtdawg]

what ever.

i was commenting on the stories about the memory failing to overclock in conjunction with the GPU which states the card is very TDP limited.

I wouldnt consider bios editing a solution to a 1k GPU that cant clock its GPU and memory at the same time.

You're probably also the type of person who wouldn't own a 1k GPU at all period. Your posts sound more like jealousy than anything.

 

[Fx1]

You're probably also the type of person who wouldn't own a 1k GPU at all period. Your posts sound more like jealousy than anything.

Yep your right i would never buy one.

I dont pay £850+ for a GPU that gets owned by 2x7970 for £524

Same as i wouldnt buy a 7990.

 

[SirPauly]

Never say never though! I have no problem with the 1,000 dollar price-point just desire more value, but do respect the technology and choice for others to decide. Ultimately, the market decides if a product can command the MSRP.

 

[hawtdawg]

Yep your right i would never buy one.

I dont pay £850+ for a GPU that gets owned by 2x7970 for £524

Same as i wouldnt buy a 7990.

Well, I actually like my games to feel like they're running at the framerate that's being reported.

 

[Fx1]

Well, I actually like my games to feel like they're running at the framerate that's being reported.

I have used SLI and CF over the years and i dont have any problems.

I have Vsync turned on and since i learnt about 59fps caps i have no input lag now either.

Funny how Vsync fixes all problems with frame times and runts

 

[SirPauly]

Glad AMD is addressing frame-times and runts instead of downplaying them.

 

[hawtdawg]

I have used SLI and CF over the years and i dont have any problems.

I have Vsync turned on and since i learnt about 59fps caps i have no input lag now either.

Funny how Vsync fixes all problems with frame times and runts

It's fine as long as you're well above 60fps, which can be a problem playing at 1440p. When you're in the 60fps range, those bad frame times and runts can turn into no frames at all. Vsync is also not desirable for competitive FPS play.

 

[Fx1]

It's fine as long as you're well above 60fps, which can be a problem playing at 1440p. When you're in the 60fps range, those bad frame times and runts can turn into no frames at all. Vsync is also not desirable for competitive FPS play.

Neither are 1440p monitors with 20-30ms input lag and 5-12ms of pixel lag.

Also the only competitive FPS games are games that a single GPU can do 250fps.

Tbh i often here this competitive FPS argument put forward for why not to use Vsync but really i doubt i have ever even spoken to a real competitive FPS player. If they were really competitive they wouldnt be using IPS screens also.

Vsync is fine with a 59 FPS cap. There doesnt seem to be any input lag with that trick. Its smooth and responsive and no CF or SLI problems

Also no screen tearing

 

[SirPauly]

I have used Sli and CrossFire and had problems and thought the frame-rate was misleading, thankfully there is hardware and software frame metering and features that offer beyond frame-rate quality now with both nVidia and AMD offering more focus.

 

[hawtdawg]

Neither are 1440p monitors with 20-30ms input lag and 5-12ms of pixel lag.

Also the only competitive FPS games are games that a single GPU can do 250fps.

Tbh i often here this competitive FPS argument put forward for why not to use Vsync but really i doubt i have ever even spoken to a real competitive FPS player. If they were really competitive they wouldnt be using IPS screens also.

Vsync is fine with a 59 FPS cap. There doesnt seem to be any input lag with that trick. Its smooth and responsive and no CF or SLI problems

Also no screen tearing

Overclocked 1440p monitors aren't near as bad. They're also nice to have for 100 other reasons. There's nothing nice about having a GPU setup that can't keep 60FPS at 1440p in some situations if you turn vsync on because it can produce full frames at that rate, and stutter like mad if they drop very far below it.

Competitive /= professional anyways. Besides, a year or 2 from now, I can just buy another Titan, whereas a 7970 setup wont be able to hang at 60fps, and after owning 2 CF setups in a row, I know how they tend to make games unplayable pretty quickly when they can't keep a steady 60fps anymore.

My point is that the Titan i bought, which makes you so angry for some reason, was really not the terrible value you insist that it is.

I did end up selling it, but only because of the possibility that I might be able to grab a couple of 780's for not much more here in a few weeks. Having to go back to 6950's made me regret it pretty quickly though.