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john3850

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Durning the last 10 years I always ran a push pull setups with the average gain of less then 4c with the second fan or row of fans at maxium using a 25-35mm inside shroud while using 80-120 cfm fans.
With the push pulls I end up with a quieter but harder to clean cooling system.
 

Idontcare

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I am getting 70 celsius max at 4.9 GHZ @ 1.488 volts 3770k delidded no WHEA errors no bsods would love to bring temps down to 60 due to the fact that my volts are high and the temps are pretty high for confort. keep in mind I have the program 2 to 4 hours on when I am practicing at each time. I do have it on ai profile so I back down to stock speed for normal usage

Those temps are from running LinX/IBT or are they from running your regular apps?
 

guskline

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I am getting 70 celsius max at 4.9 GHZ @ 1.488 volts 3770k delidded no WHEA errors no bsods would love to bring temps down to 60 due to the fact that my volts are high and the temps are pretty high for confort. keep in mind I have the program 2 to 4 hours on when I am practicing at each time. I do have it on ai profile so I back down to stock speed for normal usage
If you are only getting 70C at 4.9Ghz and 1.488v you have a golden cpu!;)
 

Idontcare

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I am getting 70 celsius max at 4.9 GHZ @ 1.488 volts 3770k delidded no WHEA errors no bsods would love to bring temps down to 60 due to the fact that my volts are high and the temps are pretty high for confort. keep in mind I have the program 2 to 4 hours on when I am practicing at each time. I do have it on ai profile so I back down to stock speed for normal usage

those temps are when I am running flight simulator at high settings. when I run Linx/IBT they get up to 85 celsius

Ouch. Your voltage is more in-line with what you should expect to use if your chip was a 32nm SB 2600k and not a 22nm IB 3770k.

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^ even my 2600k did not require 1.488V at 4.9GHz with an H100, but your 3770k does D:

That said, your temps are absolutely amazing for that many volts. At 4.9GHz my 3770k requires 1.385V for LinX stability but the temps (with H100) are 90°C.

IMO your voltage and your temps are waaaaay to high if you want that chip to last a year or two.
 

dma0991

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I am getting 70 celsius max at 4.9 GHZ @ 1.488 volts 3770k delidded no WHEA errors no bsods would love to bring temps down to 60 due to the fact that my volts are high and the temps are pretty high for confort. keep in mind I have the program 2 to 4 hours on when I am practicing at each time. I do have it on ai profile so I back down to stock speed for normal usage
The temps look fine, probably attributed by lower ambient temps. The Core i7 3770K has a TJmax of 105C. Your temps at 70C is hardly a concern at all but your voltage is of a concern. If that is the minimum voltage needed to keep it stable, I'm afraid it will just kill it sooner. I could achieve 4.7GHz@1.4V but I would not consider running it daily because it isn't very stable for daily use.

She doesn't ask what or why I spend on computer parts and I NEVER, NEVER EVER complain when a Talbots box is delivered. It helps to say "that looks beautiful on you dear!":cool:
I'll keep that in mind. :biggrin:
 

Redoitall

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The temps look fine, probably attributed by lower ambient temps. The Core i7 3770K has a TJmax of 105C. Your temps at 70C is hardly a concern at all but your voltage is of a concern. If that is the minimum voltage needed to keep it stable, I'm afraid it will just kill it sooner. I could achieve 4.7GHz@1.4V but I would not consider running it daily because it isn't very stable for daily use.


I'll keep that in mind. :biggrin:
I was thinking the same thing I will probably back down to 4.7 @ 1.340volts that seems to be the most stable speed. Maybe I will get lucky during next upgrade which will probably be Haswell hopefully they would bring a mini itx asus 1150 otherwise I am stuck at 4.7 because 4.8 is @ 1.428 with prime at 76 celsius . This chip is worst than my woman talk about walking on eggshells
 
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Redoitall

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Ouch. Your voltage is more in-line with what you should expect to use if your chip was a 32nm SB 2600k and not a 22nm IB 3770k.

ClockspeedversusMinimumVcc.png


^ even my 2600k did not require 1.488V at 4.9GHz with an H100, but your 3770k does D:

That said, your temps are absolutely amazing for that many volts. At 4.9GHz my 3770k requires 1.385V for LinX stability but the temps (with H100) are 90°C.

IMO your voltage and your temps are waaaaay to high if you want that chip to last a year or two.

IDONTCARE thanks for the ilustration but let me ask you if my chip runs 1.418 @4.8 ghz is that still too high or should I back down to 1.340 @ 4.7 ghz these are stable numbers without whea erros long runs on ibt or linx or prime I am just so dissapointed with my chip specially when I see people hitting 5 ghz low volts but I guess is like thay say it is sort of a lottery
 

dma0991

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I was thinking the same thing I will probably back down to 4.7 @ 1.340volts that seems to be the most stable speed. Maybe I will get lucky during next upgrade which will probably be Haswell hopefully they would bring a mini itx asus 1150 otherwise I am stuck at 4.7 because 4.8 is @ 1.428 with prime at 76 celsius . This chip is worst than my woman talk about walking on eggshells
A >1GHz improvement is already a great achievement. From Intel's POV, the chip does what it is intended to do, at stock. You should probably be investing in a LGA2011 rig with a 6 core CPU in your next purchase if CPU performance is bottleneck for FSX.
 

Idontcare

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IDONTCARE thanks for the ilustration but let me ask you if my chip runs 1.418 @4.8 ghz is that still too high or should I back down to 1.340 @ 4.7 ghz these are stable numbers without whea erros long runs on ibt or linx or prime I am just so dissapointed with my chip specially when I see people hitting 5 ghz low volts but I guess is like thay say it is sort of a lottery

It is just a question of how long you want your CPU to last.

If you are thinking "keep it till Haswell" then 4.9GHz @ 1.5v is not a problem (for you).

If you are thinking "I want this chip to last me 4 yrs" then you should target a clockspeed and temperature that enables you to keep the voltage at no more than ~1.3V (just my opinion).
 

Redoitall

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It is just a question of how long you want your CPU to last.

If you are thinking "keep it till Haswell" then 4.9GHz @ 1.5v is not a problem (for you).

If you are thinking "I want this chip to last me 4 yrs" then you should target a clockspeed and temperature that enables you to keep the voltage at no more than ~1.3V (just my opinion).

IT does look like I should keep it at 4.7 for at least couple of years or so and then Redoitall at this point IDONCARE about the loss of a few frames . I think I could play around with voltages and bring it to 3.20 I think I had a couple of stable runs. Then I will see if I can sell the whole rig to someone less obsesive with fraps on FSX. by the way you are so right with those crazy voltages that chip may not even last six months. I delidded the chip and lapped it so warranty is out of the question.
 
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