H-100 aftermarket fans . Need help

[Redoitall]

Does anyone have the experience of installing gentle Typhoons on H-100. If so what were your results, Do they work with the fan controller or do they have to be controlled by a separate fan controller?. I am planning on getting the 1850 rpn or the 2150 rpm any feedback would be appreciated. Also do they cool better. If you have other alternatives . Please let me know . And price is not an obstacle. Thanks in advance

 

[Idontcare]

Any particular reason you are looking at the gentle Typhoons?

I used put 4 Noiseblocker M12-P's on my H100 and then tied them all into the mobo's CPU fan PWM header with an Akasa 5-way cable so the fans speed automatically increased as the CPU gets warmer and so on.

Nice and quiet but good temperatures, exactly what water cooling is supposed to give you.

 

[dma0991]

Scythe GTs are a popular choice as it is quiet relative to its performance. It will probably be on par or better than the stock in terms of cooling performance but in terms of silence, Scythe GTs win.

They're powered through 3 pin, you can run it directly off the motherboard fan header or the H100 itself. Only get a separate fan controller if you like manual/total control of your fans. Having a separate fan controller does not necessarily improve its performance compared to ones regulated by the motherboard.

 

[Stoneburner]

Doesn't the top of the pump serve as a 3 setting fan controller on the h100? It works just fine with my 4 fans.

GT's are nice, but I found the Zalman f3's a bit better for the radiator. Now i'm going with four Cougars because they seem quiet.

 

[guskline]

Idontcare's solution, though more expensive gives you more control and quieter. I just replaced the stock fans with Corsair HP120 fans Quieter and though not quite as fast 2350rpm vs 2600rpm stock seems to move the air as well. Just installed a Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme in rig 1 below and it works very well.

 

[Idontcare]

I went with the noiseblocker multi-frames based on this xbitlabs 120mm fan roundup review.

Very impressive and illustrative difference, isn’t it? And note that all fans were working at the same level of noise, in other words, by choosing a proper fan you will be able to significantly lower the CPU temperature without losing any of the acoustic comfort.

Also I reviewed these fans and compared them to stock in my thread here: Noctua NH-D14 vs Corsair H100 for 2600K OC'ing? Update: Went with both!

They are spendy but give you the best cooling/dB (and since the OP said cost was no issue, there's my recommend

 

[Redoitall]

I went with the noiseblocker multi-frames based on this xbitlabs 120mm fan roundup review.



Also I reviewed these fans and compared them to stock in my thread here: Noctua NH-D14 vs Corsair H100 for 2600K OC'ing? Update: Went with both!

They are spendy but give you the best cooling/dB (and since the OP said cost was no issue, there's my recommend

Hello and thank you for the quick replies. I was actually looking for a better fan than the stock fans. They do not have to be the Typhoons. and noise level is not too much of an issue as I would wear headsets. FSX i need to clock at 4.9 ghz that seems to be the sweet spot for that program as it is very CPU hungry. Want to get temps as low as possible because my cpu requires higher volts than most.

 

[Meghan54]

The Noiseblockers are supposed to be great fans, from what I've read and heard, but I did exactly what the OP proposes--pair of GT's on the H100. I already had them, though, so rather than buy another fan that may/may not work better, I used what I had. They work quite well, btw. Controlled with a fan controller, another leftover from a "real" wc'ing loop.

 

[guskline]

What cpu are you running at 4.9Ghz?

 

[dma0991]

Hello and thank you for the quick replies. I was actually looking for a better fan than the stock fans. They do not have to be the Typhoons. and noise level is not too much of an issue as I would wear headsets. FSX i need to clock at 4.9 ghz that seems to be the sweet spot for that program as it is very CPU hungry. Want to get temps as low as possible because my cpu requires higher volts than most.

Better fans does not have a significant impact on cooling performance. I run my fans at 50% and running it at 100% with a fan speed controller only gives me less than 5C difference. How effective the fan performs also depends on the radiator type, high FPI or low FPI with the former having the best performance but requires faster fans.

I'd go a totally custom loop instead of buying new fans, but it'll obviously cost a lot more. If silence is not a concern / this is as good as it gets. :twisted:

 

[guskline]

I agree with dma0991. I'd go to a custom loop. BTW dma0991 that video of the 40 SP120 corsair fans is hilarious!

 

[Idontcare]

Hello and thank you for the quick replies. I was actually looking for a better fan than the stock fans. They do not have to be the Typhoons. and noise level is not too much of an issue as I would wear headsets. FSX i need to clock at 4.9 ghz that seems to be the sweet spot for that program as it is very CPU hungry. Want to get temps as low as possible because my cpu requires higher volts than most.

In that case see the xbitlabs latest review: 120mm Fan Roundup: 1350 RPM and Higher Rotation Speeds

Watch those Scythe gentle Typhoons though, the power they consume can get silly high.

 

[Idontcare]

this is as good as it gets. :twisted:

I cannot believe they gathered and assembled all that hardware only to make the monumentally silly mistake of shoving the input side of the fans up against the backwall with maybe 1-2 inches of clearance as you can visibly see in the all the shots later on.

(the desk is shoved up against the backwall, so much so that they actually have a keyboard standing up on the desk leaned against the wall)

So basically the test was to see how poorly 40 fans would perform if you stacked them and gave them about 1" of intake clearance. I just can't get over the fact they never noticed they builtin such an obvious choke-point on their own test.

It would have been a rather awesome test case otherwise.

 

[guskline]

Idontcare, did you see the part of the video where he shows -7 to -11C temps running a 3930K at 4.6Ghz?:biggrin: Bottom line is the power requirement are silly. I also agree, why put it so close to a wall?

 

[MrPickins]

Not to be a jerk, but shouldn't this be in Cases & Cooling?

That way interested parties (such as myself) can find the information in the future more easily.

 

[Redoitall]

What cpu are you running at 4.9Ghz?

3770 k delidded with LMP on die to IHS PK_1 IHS to HSH

 

[Redoitall]

Better fans does not have a significant impact on cooling performance. I run my fans at 50% and running it at 100% with a fan speed controller only gives me less than 5C difference. How effective the fan performs also depends on the radiator type, high FPI or low FPI with the former having the best performance but requires faster fans.

I'd go a totally custom loop instead of buying new fans, but it'll obviously cost a lot more. If silence is not a concern / this is as good as it gets. :twisted:

what would you recomend that is simple and will give me space on my bitfinex prodigy due to the fact that I think space is very constrictive. I have to keep my hdds in the front of the case . the bracket can be removed but i would have to buy a whole bunch of SSD to have storage.

 

[guskline]

3770 k delidded with LMP on die to IHS PK_1 IHS to HSH

HUBBA HUBBA!:biggrin:

 

[Stoneburner]

what would you recomend that is simple and will give me space on my bitfinex prodigy due to the fact that I think space is very constrictive. I have to keep my hdds in the front of the case . the bracket can be removed but i would have to buy a whole bunch of SSD to have storage.

You're putting all this in the BF prodigy? You may want to stick the radiator on top with just 2 fans then. I'm assuming you don't use an optical drive?

 

[dma0991]

Watch those Scythe gentle Typhoons though, the power they consume can get silly high.

Those are the high RPM Scythe GTs. The more commonly available 1850 rpm Scythe GT is pretty efficient.

So basically the test was to see how poorly 40 fans would perform if you stacked them and gave them about 1" of intake clearance. I just can't get over the fact they never noticed they builtin such an obvious choke-point on their own test.

It would have been a rather awesome test case otherwise.

I don't think a bigger intake clearance would've made an improvement by a factor of 20(2 fans → 40 fans). Clearly it was done to prove that cooling performance has a linear relation to the number of fans used for some lulz.

what would you recomend that is simple and will give me space on my bitfinex prodigy due to the fact that I think space is very constrictive. I have to keep my hdds in the front of the case . the bracket can be removed but i would have to buy a whole bunch of SSD to have storage.

You're constrained by a small case with limited options. Stick with the H100 with radiator fans positioned in an intake orientation. It helps a bit by having cool outside air cooling the radiator. Custom loop is doable in the Bitfenix Prodigy but it has to be with custom parts instead of XSPC kits(doesn't come with single bay reservoirs).

I know you mentioned that cost isn't an issue but you'll have to justify spending that much to gain a marginal improvement in FSX. The H100 should be capable of 4.5-4.7GHz. Will there be that much of a difference going from 4.5GHz to 4.9GHz in FSX?

 

[Redoitall]

Those are the high RPM Scythe GTs. The more commonly available 1850 rpm Scythe GT is pretty efficient.


I don't think a bigger intake clearance would've made an improvement by a factor of 20(2 fans → 40 fans). Clearly it was done to prove that cooling performance has a linear relation to the number of fans used for some lulz.



You're constrained by a small case with limited options. Stick with the H100 with radiator fans positioned in an intake orientation. It helps a bit by having cool outside air cooling the radiator. Custom loop is doable in the Bitfenix Prodigy but it has to be with custom parts instead of XSPC kits(doesn't come with single bay reservoirs).

I know you mentioned that cost isn't an issue but you'll have to justify spending that much to gain a marginal improvement in FSX. The H100 should be capable of 4.5-4.7GHz. Will there be that much of a difference going from 4.5GHz to 4.9GHz in FSX?

believe it or not when I am at 4.5 it stutters with my 680 gtx so I dont event think is the GPU but at 4.9 is the smoothes I ve ever seen FSX> I just cant believe how CPU hungry is this program. My wife wanted to shoot me when I showed up with a haf 932 cooler master case had to get rid of it immediately that is why I am trying to squeezy as much speed as possible out of the bitfinex

 

[dma0991]

believe it or not when I am at 4.5 it stutters with my 680 gtx so I dont event think is the GPU but at 4.9 is the smoothes I ve ever seen FSX> I just cant believe how CPU hungry is this program. My wife wanted to shoot me when I showed up with a haf 932 cooler master case had to get rid of it immediately that is why I am trying to squeezy as much speed as possible out of the bitfinex

Try dual 140mm AIO kits that are recently released. Should provide additional cooling without the hassle of custom WC kits. A custom WC loop in a Bitfenix Prodigy will not happen unless you're willing to do some modding(remove HDD cages, 5.25" bay, etc).

What are the temps like running FSX at 4.9GHz using the Corsair H100? CPU model and voltage?

 

[Redoitall]

Try dual 140mm AIO kits that are recently released. Should provide additional cooling without the hassle of custom WC kits. A custom WC loop in a Bitfenix Prodigy will not happen unless you're willing to do some modding(remove HDD cages, 5.25" bay, etc).

What are the temps like running FSX at 4.9GHz using the Corsair H100? CPU model and voltage?

I am getting 70 celsius max at 4.9 GHZ @ 1.488 volts 3770k delidded no WHEA errors no bsods would love to bring temps down to 60 due to the fact that my volts are high and the temps are pretty high for confort. keep in mind I have the program 2 to 4 hours on when I am practicing at each time. I do have it on ai profile so I back down to stock speed for normal usage

 

[guskline]

Oh the wife screaming about the new case?

My wife of nearly 40yrs and I have a sacred pact.

She doesn't ask what or why I spend on computer parts and I NEVER, NEVER EVER complain when a Talbots box is delivered. It helps to say "that looks beautiful on you dear!"

 

[tracerbullet]

This is worth a read:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6391/120mm-radiator-fan-roundup-part-2-fan-harder/6

If noise isn't an issue, as mentioned, you don't get a lot better than the fans that came from Corsair to begin with. Instead of replacing the fans, maybe add a 2nd set for push/pull? You mentioned space being an issue though...