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<< I guess we differ on that point where you'll hit anything that moves (or doesn't I'm sure) and I won't. >>

Hahaha.. If there was a problem it was more with my willingness to sleep with any attractive female that would let me than it was with them. Now whether I would call them up again depended on how good they were in the sack



<< I don't know who Nate Holtrop is >>


Nate Holtrop
 
nice advice from all of ya.. esp considering no girls have asked me to sleep with them on the first date 😛
 


<< ... if she slept with you on the first date? I would have to say no. >>

If I had standards low enough to sleep with someone on the first date, then yes. But since I actually respect myself and her, and whoever else I might hook up with in the future (including future wife), I wouldn't in the first place.

nik
 


<< ... if she slept with you on the first date? I would have to say no. >>


Does that mean she sleeps with everyone on the first date? If so, no...HELL no
If not, then it's pretty ambiguous.

What if, (and this is a huge what if), both of you got some crazy, cosmic jujuby feeling that you'd be perfect for each other right there?

But on the other hand, what if she just broke up w/someone and was looking to f*ck anything, what if she just never had a <insert your race here> guy before, what if...

For 99.99% of the time no...but there's always that one special one that makes it so you can't rule out the possibility
 


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<< I guess we differ on that point where you'll hit anything that moves (or doesn't I'm sure) and I won't. >>

Hahaha.. If there was a problem it was more with my willingness to sleep with any attractive female that would let me than it was with them. Now whether I would call them up again depended on how good they were in the sack



<< I don't know who Nate Holtrop is >>


Nate Holtrop >>




lol, it's been a long time but if my memory serves me that works both ways, with Dudley Dorights getting told "don't call us we''ll call you" 😀
 


<< If I had standards low enough to sleep with someone on the first date, then yes. >>

What you mean is if she had standards low enough to sleep with a complete loser like you on the first date.
 


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<< If I had standards low enough to sleep with someone on the first date, then yes. >>

What you mean is if she had standards low enough to sleep with a complete loser like you on the first date. >>


What if you'd been friends or acquaintances or "sort of" dating for a very long time but that was your first official date?
 


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<< ... if she slept with you on the first date? I would have to say no. >>


Does that mean she sleeps with everyone on the first date? If so, no...HELL no
If not, then it's pretty ambiguous.

What if, (and this is a huge what if), both of you got some crazy, cosmic jujuby feeling that you'd be perfect for each other right there?

But on the other hand, what if she just broke up w/someone and was looking to f*ck anything, what if she just never had a <insert your race here> guy before, what if...

For 99.99% of the time no...but there's always that one special one that makes it so you can't rule out the possibility >>




geez, as long as both parties are straight with each other does it really matter ?


I get so frustrated around here... first we have loads of threads from guys whining about how women won't give them any pleasure because they're all out screwing the "Bad guys" now we have a thread whining about women who are willing to give a guy pleasure.. it's enough to drive a woman crazy. LOL, I'll stick with the bad guys, much less confusing than the majority of the rest of you !!
 
"What you mean is if she had standards low enough to sleep with a complete loser like you on the first date."

Hehehe! You always crack me up, Red Dawn. You come across as a grumpy ol' man! 😉 😀

Seriously though, why is it whenever peopel set up their standard and albeit they deem it high, you always find a saucy comment to make as though one must accept your standard instead. Hon', there are women who appreciate such standards as set forth by guys you're pounding upon.

I sure do appreciate such guys and would consider them without a doubt. I give no consideration to a guy who thinks a woman merits a one-night stand.

Additionally, isn't it much more logical to get something if a woman's gonna sell herself? Why sell oneself cheap? I sure would prefer to do it as a business, so I have a means of high income and know I'm not just being used.

Of course, that's my perception and standard. If you like the first time encounter thing, then go for it. Birds of the same feathers flock at night! 😉
 


<< What if you'd been friends or acquaintances or "sort of" dating for a very long time but that was your first official date? >>

Hey don't worry about what othwers think, especially wankers like FFMCobalt. Justy do what you feel is right. If you do then you can't possibly go wrong. What ever you do don't let some BS Religious crap get in the way. Religion, especially the Christian Religion, has been making People feel guilty about their Sexuality from the get go.



<< Hehehe! You always crack me up, Red Dawn. You come across as a grumpy ol' man! >>

Why thank you🙂
 


<< "What you mean is if she had standards low enough to sleep with a complete loser like you on the first date."

Hehehe! You always crack me up, Red Dawn. You come across as a grumpy ol' man! 😉 😀

Seriously though, why is it whenever peopel set up their standard and albeit they deem it high, you always find a saucy comment to make as though one must accept your standard instead. Hon', there are women who appreciate such standards as set forth by guys you're pounding upon.

I sure do appreciate such guys and would consider them without a doubt. I give no consideration to a guy who thinks a woman merits a one-night stand.

Additionally, isn't it much more logical to get something if a woman's gonna sell herself? Why sell oneself cheap? I sure would prefer to do it as a business, so I have a means of high income and know I'm not just being used.

Of course, that's my perception and standard. If you like the first time encounter thing, then go for it. Birds of the same feathers flock at night! 😉 >>




Interesting ideas, just a couple points, first off if a woman wouldn't be looking to gain some pleasure herself why would she consider a one night stand or any sexual act for that matter ?

Secondly, if you are receiving pleasure as well as giving it, how does that equate with being "used" ?
 
I dont think that I could have a really serious relationship with a girl if she was willing to do that. I wouldnt want someone willing to do those kind of stuff on a first date.
 


<< I dont think that I could have a really serious relationship with a girl if she was willing to do that. I wouldnt want someone willing to do those kind of stuff on a first date. >>

The next thing we know you'll be disowning your right hand.
 
I get so frustrated around here... first we have loads of threads from guys whining about how women won't give them any pleasure because they're all out screwing the "Bad guys" now we have a thread whining about women who are willing to give a guy pleasure.. it's enough to drive a woman crazy. LOL, I'll stick with the bad guys, much less confusing than the majority of the rest of you !!



I get frustrated with it too, (and im a guy!) its really annoying, and kind of sick how many guys are pissy if they wont get laid, and then if they do call the girl a slut... and why does the amount of time mattter? and why isnt the question 'if you slept with a girl on the first date, do you think you are worth pursuing a relationship with for her?"

Why is it assumed that it is OK for a guy to have sex on the first date but if a girl does she is a slut? or she isnt good enough to be wtih in a relationship? you are then basically saying that she isnt good for anything but sex, and that just makes her a sex toy non person too you... these kinds of ideas degrade women, and if they sleep with you on the first date, they are probably doing it because they are seeking your affection and approval.....

Now give me the woman that has sex with me on the first date because she likes to have sex.... now she's a keeper

Its just messed up that attitudes like some of the ones in this thread, are a big part of why these women are broken emotionally and sleeping with you just to feel good about themselves.........



arrgh
 


<< I get so frustrated around here... first we have loads of threads from guys whining about how women won't give them any pleasure because they're all out screwing the "Bad guys" now we have a thread whining about women who are willing to give a guy pleasure.. it's enough to drive a woman crazy. LOL, I'll stick with the bad guys, much less confusing than the majority of the rest of you !!



I get frustrated with it too, (and im a guy!) its really annoying, and kind of sick how many guys are pissy if they wont get laid, and then if they do call the girl a slut... and why does the amount of time mattter? and why isnt the question 'if you slept with a girl on the first date, do you think you are worth pursuing a relationship with for her?"

Why is it assumed that it is OK for a guy to have sex on the first date but if a girl does she is a slut? or she isnt good enough to be wtih in a relationship? you are then basically saying that she isnt good for anything but sex, and that just makes her a sex toy non person too you... these kinds of ideas degrade women, and if they sleep with you on the first date, they are probably doing it because they are seeking your affection and approval.....

Now give me the woman that has sex with me on the first date because she likes to have sex.... now she's a keeper

Its just messed up that attitudes like some of the ones in this thread, are a big part of why these women are broken emotionally and sleeping with you just to feel good about themselves.........



arrgh >>






LOL, you were doing good till your last sentence, I try not to make the mistake of assuming what somebody's agenda might be, the only way of course to know what anybody's reasons are for doing anything is to ask them and to hope they answer honestly. As to the rest of all of this, it simply amazres me that people in general take something that'sactually very simple and natural and complicate it to the point that's it's virtually unrecognizable as something that's about pleasure .
 

LOL, you were doing good till your last sentence, I try not to make the mistake of assuming what somebody's agenda might be, the only way of course to know what anybody's reasons are for doing anything is to ask them and to hope they answer honestly. As to the rest of all of this, it simply amazres me that people in general take something that'sactually very simple and natural and complicate it to the point that's it's virtually unrecognizable as something that's about pleasure .


Im going to stand by that statement. I dont have much faith in the honesty of those I see as bigots, I put my trust in my logical inferences
 


<< Im going to stand by that statement. I dont have much faith in the honesty of those I see as bigots, I put my trust in my logical inferences >>



Are you saying that Baff is a bigot??

amish
 


<< LOL, you were doing good till your last sentence, I try not to make the mistake of assuming what somebody's agenda might be, the only way of course to know what anybody's reasons are for doing anything is to ask them and to hope they answer honestly. As to the rest of all of this, it simply amazres me that people in general take something that'sactually very simple and natural and complicate it to the point that's it's virtually unrecognizable as something that's about pleasure .


Im going to stand by that statement. I dont have much faith in the honesty of those I see as bigots, I put my trust in my logical inferences >>




Obviously your own experiences will guide you but I always thought it best to allow others to assume responsibility for their own agenda's. If I honestly tell someone that I'm sleeping with them for pleasure,nothing more,nothing less and they say they feel the same way, but really are doing it for other reasons, who fault is that really ? The ability to be honest with one's self and to do only the things that you are comfortable doing, springs from within the self imho.


OTOH, if I have pretty clear cut evidence that somebody's telling me one thing but really has another set of motivations then I have anoter set of descions to make, in general though though I think just asking honest questions and taking the person at face value is the simplest way to proceed.
 
Red, it has nothing to do with my religion. I respect my wife enough to save myself for her. If that's so hard to understand, maybe you should either ask or keep your mouth shut instead of taking cheap shots. I know you're a decent man under your lash-out exterior. Why not just let it go and be a nice guy? Did I push you? No. Did I prompt you? No. Did I ask for it in any way? No. What is your problem with me?

nik
 


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<< Im going to stand by that statement. I dont have much faith in the honesty of those I see as bigots, I put my trust in my logical inferences >>



Are you saying that Baff is a bigot??

amish >>



I didn't get inference at all
 
Alot of people are talking about social trends on how society views sexual relations. However, when it comes down to it, every ones attitude towards sex is different. Some people look to get laid every chance they get, while other prefer to wait for marriage. I believe the issue over having sex on the first date truly depends on how the two people involve view sex and can't really be generalized. I know plenty of people (guys and girls) that wouldn't give sex on the first date a second thought, while others would freak out if there was anything more than a simple kiss.

It all depends on the guys and girls involved (and how drunk you are😉).
 


<< What is your problem with me? >>

Besides you being a complete idiot and hypocrite? You implied that those who would sleep with someone on the first date had low standards. I say anybody, whether a women or a man who would ever sex you down would have to have low standards and low self esteem.



<< respect my wife enough to save myself for her. If that's so hard to understand, >>



No it's not and that's not what you said. You want to respect your future spouse (be it male or female) learn not to be such an impacted booger
 


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<< What is your problem with me? >>

Besides you being a complete idiot and hypocrite? >>

Yeah, besides that -because I am neither.




<< You implied that those who would sleep with someone on the first date had low standards. >>

In life, yes.




<< I say anybody, whether a women or a man who would ever sex you down would have to have low standards and low self esteem. >>

Ah, another cheap shot.




<< No it's not and that's not what you said. You want to respect your future spouse (be it male or female -another cheap shot) learn not to be such an impacted booger >>

Mind explaining those last two?

nik
 
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