Markfw
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That ones a possibility, but OOS. How good on overclocking ? I want 4.6 like the 920 on the ASRock review on air.
And yes, my SCSI LSI card is PCI-X, but will work on PCI. I have 4 other SCSI cards, not as good, but PCI, and you edited out all those nice links.
And yes, my SCSI LSI card is PCI-X, but will work on PCI. I have 4 other SCSI cards, not as good, but PCI, and you edited out all those nice links.
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You better have one hell of a chip for that overclock.
4.6ghz = 220 blck x 21multi with turbo on... :X
Realistically a 920 will go from 3.8 -> 4.2
4.2 plus is a bonus. And if u want F@H stable, id say more between 4.0-4.2.
@ 4.6 mark, it wont matter if ur chip can go that high or not, its how are you gonna cool it.
4.6ghz is a very hot territory especially with HT ON.
Gary wont show u the load temps on it, but i guarantee you, its gonna scare you.
The giggy and eVGA were great clockers.
The ASUS was alright until i was bogged with bios bugs on it.
If the Giggy matches you mark, id say get the giggy.
Its a higher tier then the ASrock, company wise.
I threw out the eVGA LE because its the same layout as the classified. Im hearing a lot of good things about the LE, and how people like it more then the classy.
Also i heard the LE has the X58 revision on it.
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Lifer
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Nothing wrong about the X58 extreme Asrock (besides having Asus as a parent company but look at PCP&C and OCZ in the PSU market)
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I went though PSU Nightmares when trying to pair up my psu with the classified...
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...la/Haruhi/IMG_1351.jpg
Board doesnt like psu's which dont have a -5VSB on it.
Im currently on the ultra 1600W.
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Lifer
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I've been holding off on buying a Enermax 1250 for compatibility reasons. I had an email conversation with a rep and he told me the latest 1250's S/N 95xxxxxxxx and up are Compatible with the Classified.
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Lifer
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I would also recommend the UD5 or classified, or especially the next version of the UD5. Also, you will need a very good chip to do 4.6, mine needs 1.39 Volts vcore for 4.2; not a a very good one. Still, 4.6 should be difficult with even the best chip on air. And I have pretty good air cooling.
I would agree to stay away from asus, boards I do like are the evga and gigabyte. I love my UD5, narowly chose it over the first evga board to come out, and I also have an evga 780i ftw. both companies seem good quality.
I would agree to stay away from asus, boards I do like are the evga and gigabyte. I love my UD5, narowly chose it over the first evga board to come out, and I also have an evga 780i ftw. both companies seem good quality.
Why do you say this? I have always used Asus and had good luck?
What is different with the "next" version of the UD5?
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Lifer
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Follow this guy in the thread and you'll learn a little bit about Asus
Here is a little more rant. But from what I had been reading, it seems he knows how to write a bios.
Here is a little more rant. But from what I had been reading, it seems he knows how to write a bios.
Most people's complaint about ASUS stems from poor customer support.
I've used mostly ASUS boards and never had any problems with them...But then again I've never had to call their customer service/support line.
The boards ASUS used to make stood up from the crowd. Now all the motherboard makers are tightly packed due to the advent of the integrated memory controller(among other things) being taken from the chipset to the CPU.
There's no need to pay the ASUS price premium when you can get it in the ASROCK brand for a cheaper price.
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I agree with ya on ASUS of the old being awesome.
I seriously never had any problems with ASUS until i started loading my computers up on full load, constantly, or bench with high voltage.
Once i started using more of my computer, there boards just dont last. Unless its a workstation class, i honestly havent had an asus board hold up longer then 1yr while under constant load.
My first nightmare happened with the P5T series and it not liking crucial ram. Were talking crucial... not a third party company which has 6 syllables.
Both the P5E and P5T-Dlx hated 4GB Crucial Ballastix series ram. Which meant all 2GB micron D9's sticks were no no on this board. *wanted to pull my hair out*
Then i got my P6T. Oh boy... u know when they ignorance is bliss, its true. You don't know what your missing until you tried another brand.
Key's Mark, and Jump...
My Advice on boards for ya...
Mark, you need a thick pcb, so your only option is giggy. Especially the way u treat your rigs.
Or grab the ASUS P6T6 WS, ditch your PCI SCSI card, and grab a PCI-E version.
Jump and Key's:
If you absolutely need 12GB of DDR3, my first board of choice would be the eVGA X58 LE.
Why?
Cuz Shamano personally handles the bios updates for the board. That means if something pisses us off about the board, we nail him on the forums, and he pops up with a new bios, like he has been doing.
Second choice would be a Giggy Series if you still need 12GB of DDR3, however if 12GB is not important, id grab a Foxconn Bloodrage.
I had a pleasure of playing with one while i was upgrading my friends rig, and its nice. The board is Rock solid and stable.
Lastly, if i wanted to bend my budget a little, id grab the R2E, but id probably splurge the extra and grab a Classified.
I seriously never had any problems with ASUS until i started loading my computers up on full load, constantly, or bench with high voltage.
Once i started using more of my computer, there boards just dont last. Unless its a workstation class, i honestly havent had an asus board hold up longer then 1yr while under constant load.
My first nightmare happened with the P5T series and it not liking crucial ram. Were talking crucial... not a third party company which has 6 syllables.
Both the P5E and P5T-Dlx hated 4GB Crucial Ballastix series ram. Which meant all 2GB micron D9's sticks were no no on this board. *wanted to pull my hair out*
Then i got my P6T. Oh boy... u know when they ignorance is bliss, its true. You don't know what your missing until you tried another brand.
Key's Mark, and Jump...
My Advice on boards for ya...
Mark, you need a thick pcb, so your only option is giggy. Especially the way u treat your rigs.
Or grab the ASUS P6T6 WS, ditch your PCI SCSI card, and grab a PCI-E version.
Jump and Key's:
If you absolutely need 12GB of DDR3, my first board of choice would be the eVGA X58 LE.
Why?
Cuz Shamano personally handles the bios updates for the board. That means if something pisses us off about the board, we nail him on the forums, and he pops up with a new bios, like he has been doing.
Second choice would be a Giggy Series if you still need 12GB of DDR3, however if 12GB is not important, id grab a Foxconn Bloodrage.
I had a pleasure of playing with one while i was upgrading my friends rig, and its nice. The board is Rock solid and stable.
Lastly, if i wanted to bend my budget a little, id grab the R2E, but id probably splurge the extra and grab a Classified.
Does the EVGA socket placement really make it a problem for heatsink mounts on the thermaltake armor case? I'm looking at my kandalf (exact internal layout as armor) and it looks like there would be ample spacing if needed, provided that the hard drive cage immediately above is taken out.
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Well, you guys be the judge. To me, it looks like it will be too close for comfort, but my perspective may be off.
Pic
Also, I'm looking at this board if you guys think the clearance is fine.
EVGA E758-A1 3-Way SLI (x16/x16/x8) LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
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I wonder if most of these problems stem from mobo makers going crazy with the number and type of power phases, but aren't paying attention to compatability with PSUs? Shot in the dark. Those classified boards seem to need specific kinds of PSUs, no?
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Thanks Aigo. Well, I can't use the P6T6 WS. I need one PCI slot for my M-Audio Delta44. So that's out. The eVGA X58 LE looks a bit better. Has 3-way SLI support at 16x 8x 8x. Has a PCI slot. But no IDE. I suppose I could pick up a SATA DVD burner.
And here is an Xbit review of the eVGA X58 SLI LE
Did you run into these BIOS issues when overclocking? Or is this something your man Shamano has taken care of?
To be fair, I'm not looking for a 3.9GHz o/c on the 920. I'd be more than happy with something around 3.5GHz with all of the Turbo and power saving features intact.
I'm willing to pay 230.00 for this board. Seems like a pretty good deal. It's just a question of those BIOS issues the guys at Xbit ran into, worries me a little bit.
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My friends who own this board havent mentioned those problems to me.
The turbo boost, i see them running 920's on 21x multi's so it has to be working.
Theres already 2 bios updates for the boards
S719 Updates:
* Improves Bootup BClock
* Adds B2B CAS Delay
S717 Updates:
* Smartfan is listed by temp they are adjusted to
* PXE fix with RAID enabled
* Improves bootup BCLK
* Improves 24GB support
* Smartfan improvements
the last which came out on the 9/21, 3 days ago.
If shammy didnt fix it yet, give him some time.
The turbo boost, i see them running 920's on 21x multi's so it has to be working.
Theres already 2 bios updates for the boards
S719 Updates:
* Improves Bootup BClock
* Adds B2B CAS Delay
S717 Updates:
* Smartfan is listed by temp they are adjusted to
* PXE fix with RAID enabled
* Improves bootup BCLK
* Improves 24GB support
* Smartfan improvements
the last which came out on the 9/21, 3 days ago.
If shammy didnt fix it yet, give him some time.
Zap
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Since you are likely to go multi-GPU, get the 920. The D0 stepping should be good for overclocking and out of the four or so different model X58 boards I've tried, the P6T was the best overclocker. Of course I don't Fold on them for months on end like aigomorla does.
This is a good point. AFAIK none of the boards right now have SATA III, USB 3.0, 10Gbit Ethernet or any other emerging technology. Two years down the line it will probably be more worthwhile to swap out the board as well.
I think it has been shown to have negligible gains.
Don't ask.
Just last week I was handed nine 975 CPUs to play around with.
This is a good point. AFAIK none of the boards right now have SATA III, USB 3.0, 10Gbit Ethernet or any other emerging technology. Two years down the line it will probably be more worthwhile to swap out the board as well.
I think it has been shown to have negligible gains.
Don't ask.
Just last week I was handed nine 975 CPUs to play around with.
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