Guys n Gals: Very torn here.

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
keys nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CRAPSUS... please no... heaven forbid no..

god no.....

Looks at my old pictures... *shivers* NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0141.jpg

Can i cry and say no one more time?

eVGA X58 LE
Giggy X58 series...

Please with a cherry on top?

Originally posted by: GEOrifle

P6T RAMPAGE II EXTREME locks nice but how better is it over P6T and P6TD DELUXE boards ? Is it worth $350 ?
IS ASUS really changing RMA-ed board by REFUB ?
Can someone help me with it?

The R2E is such a better board. However its pricey...
And yes ASUS RMA Blows... the P6T board also had a ton of turbo throttling issues, as well as other issues.
UGH... dont get me started on crapsus...

That nightmare was quickly erased when i got a classified.

[-H-] Kyle's Review of the Classified was less than Glowing

http://www.hardocp.com/article...a_x58_sli_classified/1

Wait until you have the honor of paying for your Warranty if you do have an RMA...


They all make Crap Boards... One at a Time... It is Luck of the Draw

The key here is being sharper than the average tool...I, flashed to the ROG BIOS

First thing I did was disable Turbo........


The X58 LE throws you into 6 layer PCB, and low end power conditioning.



Did Giga revise their slot layout ??

At least with ASUS they answer the phone, and speak English as a primary language.

 

[MyLeftNut]

How about the MSI x58 Pro-E as a cheap alternative? Heard it overclocks pretty good and seems to hold up fine even with 5 phase power. Though the NB and SB heatsinks should get the TIM replaced. The expansion slot layout looks well located and spaced as well.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
keys nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CRAPSUS... please no... heaven forbid no..

god no.....

Looks at my old pictures... *shivers* NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0141.jpg

Can i cry and say no one more time?

eVGA X58 LE
Giggy X58 series...

Please with a cherry on top?

Originally posted by: GEOrifle

P6T RAMPAGE II EXTREME locks nice but how better is it over P6T and P6TD DELUXE boards ? Is it worth $350 ?
IS ASUS really changing RMA-ed board by REFUB ?
Can someone help me with it?

The R2E is such a better board. However its pricey...
And yes ASUS RMA Blows... the P6T board also had a ton of turbo throttling issues, as well as other issues.
UGH... dont get me started on crapsus...

That nightmare was quickly erased when i got a classified.

Are you trying to tell me, "no"?
Seriously? I don't get it. I've been using ASUS boards for 16 years. What happened to them?
Admittedly, the last ASUS board I bought was the P5N-E SLI for C2D. About 18 months ago.
I can't use the eVGA X58 LE. Reason is, look how close the 1366 socket is to the "north" edge of the board. My Cooler Master V8 will hit my PSU.
pics of eVGA X58 LE at the egg

I like Gigabyte, so which board would you recommend? I'm willing to go a bit higher on mobo price, but I don't want to pay 300.00 either.

Keep in mind that I want to use all 6 sticks of my DDR3. Populate all slots.
I'd like to o/c the bloomfield moderately. Not looking for 4GHz. 3.5 would do nicely. If it's a piece of cake with the particular CPU I end up with, I may go higher if I can. (I'll make sure it's a D0).

And thank you for the warning.. :thumbsup:

 

[MyLeftNut]

With gigabyte there's the UD4P or UD5, although the UD5 would probably be close to $300. Very minor differences between them like an extra gbit LAN port and extra sata ports. Only problem is with the gigabyte x58's, they're being discontinued and it's getting hard to come by now for some models. Their X58A lineup was supposed to be released already but got delayed and rumors that it was scrapped, but new rumours suggests that they're being delayed and will be released the coming months probably due to the P55 launch.

 

[Gikaseixas]

get a i7 and a nice X58. I'm into Gigabyte mb's lately because i'm having a great run of luck with them, really like the features and stability. ASUS has been bulletprrof for me also so it's those two brands that i recommend.

 

[v8envy]

One more vote for the gigabyte X58 board lineup, albeit from the shallow, low cost end of the pool (UD3R). Absolutely zero problems, no issues to resolve, all features working as advertised including forced turbo mode.

Also confirming the two 16x pcie slots are not splitting bandwidth with any other slots on the board. There are 4 spare lanes on the main PCIe controller, with another 4 lanes from the southbridge. Unfortunately they can't be combined into one more 8x slot for 3 card insanity. You'll be stuck with quad GPU at most -- but not that big of a deal since you'll likely need a 6+ ghz i7 to drive four-way next gen hardware.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Mr Fox


At least with ASUS they answer the phone, and speak English as a primary language.

And eVGA doesnt?

Keys is also located in the US.
Can u think of a better RMA company?

Im sorry, if ur located in the US, eVGA has one of the best warrentys.
Also when were u required to pay extra on the classified?

I got the 759 version which came with advance RMA.
So im kinda lost in what ur talking about paying extra.

Also i have 4 other friends who own classifieds, and only 1 had to complain about it because she was running a SAS controller. :X
(rubycon)

The others love the board. Im sure any other classy owner will say the same

My problems with ASUS... this is first hand problems.
First off, there SUPER SLOW with bios updates. The guys who write the bios for the boards are also slow in listening to our wants.

Uncleweb first discovered that the P6T series board had a turbo throttle limiter on it.
I'll dig up all the links for you.

But seriously the P6T to me was nothing but pure headaches. I really wished i didnt get sucked by the OC Palm unit and went straight R2E or the Giggy.

The DFI isnt a bad board either keys (i have another love / hate relationship with them too). If you really dont need 12GB id recomend the bloodrage tho. I havent heard anything bad about that board, minus 6GB max.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Not to mention their Maximus II formula boards in the 775lga era... the thread titled "Maximus II Formula... a new overclocking king?" that is atleast 150 pages or more with of good and bad shit, but my point, there is a section of the thread where a guy says fuck asus and started making updates to their bios for that particular board for them. He even mentioned how things were never updated like there was a revision to the South bridge ICH10R that was out for a while but an update to it was never included in a bios update.. The pullins weren't working... at all, not semi working... not working at all

 

[Markfw]

Speaking of very torn.... I have been drooling over all the new I7 and I5 cpu's, and being a mod, dying to try one... But with 12 computers, all working great, and just having spent $17,000 on a 3 week vacation to Europe, I can't seem to justify it.

Somebody convince me that I need it !

keys, get the 920

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Speaking of very torn.... I have been drooling over all the new I7 and I5 cpu's, and being a mod, dying to try one... But with 12 computers, all working great, and just having spent $17,000 on a 3 week vacation to Europe, I can't seem to justify it.

Somebody convince me that I need it !

keys, get the 920

Yeah, it's going to be the 920. Question of the day is, which board. Gigabyte offerings are drying up for X58. There is a whole smattering of P55's from them ATM.
Aigo says the P6T has Turbo throttling issues. Is this also true for the V2? Or same probs?

eVGA is annoying me placing their 1366 sockets so close to the north edge of the board. And I'm not giving up my Thermaltake Armor. I love this case. Best I've ever owned.

Maybe I'll just pick up the 920 this weekend, so I'll at least have the CPU. And maybe wait a few and research the mobos a bit longer.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Put it this way. I don't have 17000$ to spend but I just bought my second i7 system and my first which is not even up and running includes a 760 EVGA Classified. My second i7 rig, I will be using the ASRock X58 Extreme which is (i hate to say it, offbrand Asus aka crapsus) but none the less offers what I want in a 1366 board.

 

[harbin]

X58 anyday

 

[aigomorla]

how about this keys..

tell me what overclocking u are ideally looking for.

And i'll tell u the best hardware to pair it with @ your overclock range?

And please dont say u want 4.4ghz+.... because then ima point you to a rediculous budget. :X

 

[MyLeftNut]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Put it this way. I don't have 17000$ to spend but I just bought my second i7 system and my first which is not even up and running includes a 760 EVGA Classified. My second i7 rig, I will be using the ASRock X58 Extreme which is (i hate to say it, offbrand Asus aka crapsus) but none the less offers what I want in a 1366 board.

How's the Asrock for overclocking? Any good?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: MyLeftNut

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Put it this way. I don't have 17000$ to spend but I just bought my second i7 system and my first which is not even up and running includes a 760 EVGA Classified. My second i7 rig, I will be using the ASRock X58 Extreme which is (i hate to say it, offbrand Asus aka crapsus) but none the less offers what I want in a 1366 board.

How's the Asrock for overclocking? Any good?

A little review by Anandtech says its good.

 

[Markfw]

What about the ASRock supercomputer board ?

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: aigomorla


Uncleweb first discovered that the P6T series board had a turbo throttle limiter on it.
I'll dig up all the links for you.

But seriously the P6T to me was nothing but pure headaches. I really wished i didnt get sucked by the OC Palm unit and went straight R2E or the Giggy.

Ok .. I saved you the trouble...Gotta love Google !!

UncleWebb is at TechPowerup

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=95282

Originally posted by: Uncleweb

The P6T seems to start Turbo throttling somewhere around 4 GHz and 1.40 volts. The formula is based on current, power consumption as well as temperature so if you're air cooled and your temps are high then you might start to have this problem at a lower overclock.

Edit: Here's what the Intel Turbo White Paper says.

1.2 Dependencies / Algorithm
Intel® Turbo Boost technology core frequency upside availability is ultimately constrained by power delivery limits, but within those constraints, it is limited by the following factors:

? The estimated current consumption of the processor
? The estimated power consumption of the processor
? The temperature of the processor

This issue is not really relevant to the Average Joe, it was more relevant in the earlier steppings... The D0 it is not even a factor

1.4 volts on Air on a D0 would be highly unlikely...

There are workarounds, and monitoring tools in that same thread..

I'm currently running 4.2 Ghz. @ 1.256 v on an Older Scythe Infinity... in Southern Alabama... My Computer room does not get the best cooling as it is on the back porch overlooking the gulf, but if I can maintain 40C ambient...I'm 75 C running Prime

If I was back up north, 4.5 Ghz would not be an issue.

Overclocking is all luck of the draw....You picked a bad one No Doubt !

But The Throttling issue really isn't very relevant to your rant.

It is good to be a FanBoy,,We are all proud of what we have..

The newer BIOS take care of as Well..

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Mr Fox


Overclocking is all luck of the draw....You picked a bad one No Doubt !

But The Throttling issue really isn't very relevant to your rant.

It is good to be a FanBoy,,We are all proud of what we have..

The newer BIOS take care of as Well..

LOL...

Okey... u obviously dont know who i am.

So ima just let you pass on this comment.

:T

But if u knew me, you wouldn't call me a fanboy.

Keys, my gut advice is stay away from asus P6T series.
You can even talk to ruby, who will probably tell you no to asus minus the P6T6 WS.
She's in love with that board.

If your getting ASUS, there is only 2 boards u can really look at.

P6T6 WS
R2E.

Since both those boards are way outside your budget, do you honestly need 12gb of ddr3? Its harder to overclock with all 6 sticks.

Also the foxconn bloodrage is such a nicer board then the P6T.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Mr Fox


Overclocking is all luck of the draw....You picked a bad one No Doubt !

But The Throttling issue really isn't very relevant to your rant.

It is good to be a FanBoy,,We are all proud of what we have..

The newer BIOS take care of as Well..

LOL...

Okey... u obviously dont know who i am.

So ima just let you pass on this comment.

:T

Last time I checked you are Mortal.............. Just like the rest of us...

You put your pants on one leg at a time like everyone else...

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Mr Fox

Last time I checked you are Mortal.............. Just like the rest of us...

You put your pants on one leg at a time like everyone else...

Yeah.. however...
Ive gone though 4 different boards for the i7, 6 cpu's, and 5 tri kits of ram, and even 3 psu's.
As well as a ton of GPU cards..

How many have you gone though this year?

Still calling me a fanboy?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Mr Fox


Overclocking is all luck of the draw....You picked a bad one No Doubt !

But The Throttling issue really isn't very relevant to your rant.

It is good to be a FanBoy,,We are all proud of what we have..

The newer BIOS take care of as Well..

LOL...

Okey... u obviously dont know who i am.

So ima just let you pass on this comment.

:T

But if u knew me, you wouldn't call me a fanboy.

Keys, my gut advice is stay away from asus P6T series.
You can even talk to ruby, who will probably tell you no to asus minus the P6T6 WS.
She's in love with that board.

If your getting ASUS, there is only 2 boards u can really look at.

P6T6 WS
R2E.

Since both those boards are way outside your budget, do you honestly need 12gb of ddr3? Its harder to overclock with all 6 sticks.

Also the foxconn bloodrage is such a nicer board then the P6T.

The foxconn has the slots arranged so you can't even use 3 double-wide video cards (all mine are) and the ASUS has NO PCI slots, so I cant use my SCSI card.

Any other preferences that those 2 problems ? Also, no answer about the ASRock supercomputer board.

Or should I start a new thread in motherboards ??

 

[lopri]

I heard a lot of nice things about that ASRock X58 board. Only negative I remember is that vCore isn't as stable as it could be when CPU is overclocked, but with Turbo mode and other power saving stuff I can't be sure whether that's a defect or by design.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Also, no answer about the ASRock supercomputer board.

Or should I start a new thread in motherboards ??

Mark u know i dont talk about hardware that i haven't had the fortune to play with.

So i cant comment on this...

But you also know ive given you great board advice.

For a high stress cruncher like you, you want the P6T6 WS, a Classy, or the Giggy UD5 or above.

Guys on WCG are having the best results with them.

 

[Markfw]

I guess NO SCSI then (which means no DLT for backup) None of these boards allow for that with 2 (double width) video cards, let alone 3. UD3R does. And whats a "Classy" ?

This ? "EVGA E760 CLASSIFIED "Overclocker's Pick" 3-Way SLI + PhysX 1366 "

$400 for a motherboard ? Not without 2 sockets.....

 

[aigomorla]

P6T6 WS doesnt allow it?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...%20Intel%20Motherboard

Looks like it would.

So will the Classy:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...%20Intel%20Motherboard

Giggy UD5 can probably do 2 cards + 1 Controller.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...%20Intel%20Motherboard

However there changing it to the X58A with 24 phase. Might be a good reason to wait..