Guy wins new EVO for 26K on Ebay - Mark Mitsubishi (seller) refuses to sell it! EDIT: BUYER WINS, DEALER CAVES IN!!!!

[deerslayer]

At least he got his car

 

[clarkmo]

Me's bets that with the page views over 35,00 at ebay and the product exposure, Mits Corp kicked in on the "loss"

 

[Fiveohhh]

Originally posted by: clarkmo
Me's bets that with the page views over 35,00 at ebay and the product exposure, Mits Corp kicked in on the "loss"

35,000 hits of negative advertising isn't that good....

 

[Lifer]

Originally posted by: clarkmo
Me's bets that with the page views over 35,00 at ebay and the product exposure, Mits Corp kicked in on the "loss"

Me's bets you wrong becuz those hits mostly be car enthusiasts from various forums who already know about the car (aka the competition).

 

[Gaard]

Can anyone, regardless of whether or not they had a transaction, leave feedback? That seems kind of wacked.

<--- doesn't know much about ebay. :shame;

 

[MustangSVT]

hmm

its good that markD got his car, but i hope Mitsubishi closes that Mark Mitsu down or something.

all their lies before finally giving up the car is pure BS..

 

[Papagayo]

If I was MarkD, I would put the car on AutoTraders.. I bet he can make some profit on it..

 

[dejacky]

that depends on how cool the "custom" mods made the evo. If it's absolutely gorgeous and sweet to ride, I wouldn't sell it.

 

[jdini76]

wouldn't it be funny, after all this the car turns out to be a lemon!

 

[clarkmo]

Originally posted by: jdini76
wouldn't it be funny, after all this the car turns out to be a lemon!

Yeah, where are you gonna go for service? Mark Mitsubishi?

As far as the pahe hits and exposure, Who knew a Lancer could be this nice? I sure didn't. The only negative is for a salesman at Mark's. And the guy got the car after the salesman's carelessness screwed up the auction! IMHO there's a lot of positive, in particular for the particular vehicle and it's potential.

 

[boyRacer]

well guess what... the dealer was giving the car to him for the price he won it... and he refuses... ... and just doesn't buy the car anymore... oh well... his decision i guess.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: boyRacer
well guess what... the dealer was giving the car to him for the price he won it... and he refuses... ... and just doesn't buy the car anymore... oh well... his decision i guess.

Wait a second... you're saying the guy didn't buy the car from Mark Mitsubishi after all? He backed out of the auction? What exactly is his reason for that?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: boyRacer
well guess what... the dealer was giving the car to him for the price he won it... and he refuses... ... and just doesn't buy the car anymore... oh well... his decision i guess.

Wait a second... you're saying the guy didn't buy the car from Mark Mitsubishi after all? He backed out of the auction? What exactly is his reason for that?

either because he had no real intention of buying it in the first place or he wants to sue them.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: boyRacer
well guess what... the dealer was giving the car to him for the price he won it... and he refuses... ... and just doesn't buy the car anymore... oh well... his decision i guess.

Wait a second... you're saying the guy didn't buy the car from Mark Mitsubishi after all? He backed out of the auction? What exactly is his reason for that?

yeah... i think its on the second to the last page in the original thread... he says he just wants to put it behind him... he did now know that he can get an Evo for $30k from other dealers... so i guess he just went that route... probably thought the original dealer was going to kidnap him once he went to go get the car...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: boyRacer
well guess what... the dealer was giving the car to him for the price he won it... and he refuses... ... and just doesn't buy the car anymore... oh well... his decision i guess.

Wait a second... you're saying the guy didn't buy the car from Mark Mitsubishi after all? He backed out of the auction? What exactly is his reason for that?

yeah... i think its on the second to the last page in the original thread... he says he just wants to put it behind him... he did now know that he can get an Evo for $30k from other dealers... so i guess he just went that route... probably thought the original dealer was going to kidnap him once he went to go get the car...

This one was modified and whatnot though. Meh, whatever... a lot of people wasted their time trying to get this guy the car.

 

[tcsenter]

The buyer seems like a complete idiot. Why would anyone incessantly say they are ashamed to be a "Mark" or encourage his brother to be ashamed of being a "Scott" because the dealer is Mark's Mitsubishi in Scottsdale. What kind of idiot talks like this? He even left that as negative feedback. The guy sounds like a 12 year-old.

Yes it was "bad" of the dealer to refuse the sale, although they should have just stated the reason was because the winning bidder had no completed transactions prior to this auction and no feedback. And yes they probably should have taken some heat for it.

But JEZUS this got way out of hand. Most of the posts over on the NASIOC forums are from total idiots who apparently do not understand the difference between "fraud" and backing out of a sale before it is finalized or payment has changed hands.

A representative example of the mentality here is evidenced by a post from a notspock:

We should not let this thread die.

Consider what the "Auto Enthusiast Community" has accomplished in the past 10 days.

On this thread the lovers all kinds of automobiles came togather for a common cause. Guys/Gals from all over the world brought a dealership to its knees.

Auto dealers and their Associations, Auto Manufacturers and their Associations all know that, WE ARE A FORCE that has to be respected....

Notice the feeling of inadequacy and the need to feel powerful: "we are a force that has to be respected". You'd think the guy was talking about ending slavery or something. Nope, just an Ebay seller who backed out of a deal.

Good example of what can happen when thousands of limp dicks suffering from feelings of inadequacy get together.

 

[MillionaireNextDoor]

This avoids a costly contract lawsuit.

Of course, buyer would've won.

Seller was too lazy to mediate before auction ended.

If now the buyer is backing out, the seller has the option of taking him to court because the auction is a contract..

..buuut I doubt the dealer would be willing to take a loss on such a car.

 

[Jzero]

Yes it was "bad" of the dealer to refuse the sale, although they should have just stated the reason was because the winning bidder had no completed transactions prior to this auction and no feedback. And yes they probably should have taken some heat for it.

That's a poor excuse considering the seller had no feedback as well at the time. The seller can cancel bids or the auction at any time. There's only one person at fault for forgetting to do so. The seller.

But JEZUS this got way out of hand. Most of the posts over on the NASIOC forums are from total idiots who apparently do not understand the difference between "fraud" and backing out of a sale before it is finalized or payment has changed hands.

I agree with you about the morons posting over there, but at the end of the day, this isn't about backing out of an sale that never was. When an Ebay auction ends, it is considered a BINDING CONTRACT! Fraud is not the correct legal term, but in backing out of the deal, the seller violated the contract he agreed to in letting the auction lapse to completion, and I see nothing wrong with him being compelled to honor the contract by legal means or otherwise.

But - it works both ways. The buyer ALSO entered into a contract when he placed his bid and won. He should now be officially stuck with this car and the accompanying bill. If he want a different one, it's up to him to trade or resell it. If he is trying to back out, I see nothing wrong with him him being compelled to honor the contract by legal means or otherwise, same as with the seller.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: tcsenter
The buyer seems like a complete idiot. Why would anyone incessantly say they are ashamed to be a "Mark" or encourage his brother to be ashamed of being a "Scott" because the dealer is Mark's Mitsubishi in Scottsdale. What kind of idiot talks like this? He even left that as negative feedback. The guy sounds like a 12 year-old.

Yes it was "bad" of the dealer to refuse the sale, although they should have just stated the reason was because the winning bidder had no completed transactions prior to this auction and no feedback. And yes they probably should have taken some heat for it.

But JEZUS this got way out of hand. Most of the posts over on the NASIOC forums are from total idiots who apparently do not understand the difference between "fraud" and backing out of a sale before it is finalized or payment has changed hands.

A representative example of the mentality here is evidenced by a post from a notspock:

We should not let this thread die.

Consider what the "Auto Enthusiast Community" has accomplished in the past 10 days.

On this thread the lovers all kinds of automobiles came togather for a common cause. Guys/Gals from all over the world brought a dealership to its knees.

Auto dealers and their Associations, Auto Manufacturers and their Associations all know that, WE ARE A FORCE that has to be respected....

Notice the feeling of inadequacy and the need to feel powerful: "we are a force that has to be respected". You'd think the guy was talking about ending slavery or something. Nope, just an Ebay seller who backed out of a deal.

Good example of what can happen when thousands of limp dicks suffering from feelings of inadequacy get together.

Man, where were you to back me up when I was trying to explain that to these people a month ago?