Guy is hooking me up with my inspection sticker

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jlee

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Aimster
$10 good?

Vehicle inspection. My car needs rear brake pads. oops

It costs $16.00 to get it done the legal way so no, $10.00 is not enough.

only $16? $35 here..
 

Linflas

Lifer
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Originally posted by: allisolm
If it's a fake sticker and you get caught, it could mean a maximum penalty of a year in jail and a $2,500 fine for a Class 1 misdemeanor. If it's a legit sticker and he just doesn't inspect the car, then he's probably the only one who could get in trouble.

Actually if he gets caught and they trace it back to the inspection station then they could well lose their license to do inspections which is a nice little cash stream for local garages.
 

PottedMeat

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Apr 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: allisolm
If it's a fake sticker and you get caught, it could mean a maximum penalty of a year in jail and a $2,500 fine for a Class 1 misdemeanor. If it's a legit sticker and he just doesn't inspect the car, then he's probably the only one who could get in trouble.

If it's legit - OP should rat out the guy for laughs. And for maximum lulz, not get his brakes fixed.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Modular
What sort of devil state do you live in? In IL, all we have to do is go in for emissions testing (which because of OBDI and II), consists of nothing more than them checking to make sure that the check engine light isn't on.

I took my car in earlier this week and they broke my hood handle and then failed me for it =( This is in NJ.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: JTsyo
Originally posted by: Modular
What sort of devil state do you live in? In IL, all we have to do is go in for emissions testing (which because of OBDI and II), consists of nothing more than them checking to make sure that the check engine light isn't on.

I took my car in earlier this week and they broke my hood handle and then failed me for it =( This is in NJ.

The latch underneath the hood that allows you to open the hood after you release it from inside the car? It was probably on the verge of breaking already. I think it'd take quite a bit of effort to break a hood latch that's in good condition. It's a piece of metal.
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Um... this happened to my car; break shoes where not changed for WAY to long and the brake cut itself open and leaked break fluid everywhere. Next thing i know, no breaks at all. This is a 1997 chevy sonoma.

That's a crappy car. I blew out the rear brakes on an AMC Javelin and the front ones continued working fine. The pedal needed to be pushed farther to stop, but the car was otherwise unaffected. Oh and it was a vehicle made in 1974


 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy

Ummm, no. That is not how braking systems are designed at all. (Try diagonal circuits for the past 20-30 years.) Not to mention the spelling errors.

But by all means, keep the ATOT knee-jerk reaction train rolling.

Um... this happened to my car; break shoes where not changed for WAY to long and the brake cut itself open and leaked break fluid everywhere. Next thing i know, no breaks at all. This is a 1997 chevy sonoma.

You had other problems then. Your whole brake system was shot. The master cylinder is segregated to prevent this exact occurrence. You should be able to clip your rear brake lines, and still have functioning front brakes.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Modular
What sort of devil state do you live in? In IL, all we have to do is go in for emissions testing (which because of OBDI and II), consists of nothing more than them checking to make sure that the check engine light isn't on.

And that is only if you live in toward Chicago! where i live in IL i don't have to do anything like that.


 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Here's an idea, get the rear brakes done so you can get a legit sticker and avoid killing somebody.

this

why don't you just replace the pads; evidently someone thinks they should be replaced

:roll:

Come on folks. He's not going to kill anybody even if his rear brakes go out completely, the fronts do most of the work anyway.


SO you're saying it's ok then to pay someone off to get around a state law and using equipment that apparently is in need of replacement? Hmmmm.
 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Originally posted by: Modular
What sort of devil state do you live in? In IL, all we have to do is go in for emissions testing (which because of OBDI and II), consists of nothing more than them checking to make sure that the check engine light isn't on.

only if you live up in the far north reaches of IL far far away from here..
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Here's an idea, get the rear brakes done so you can get a legit sticker and avoid killing somebody.

this

why don't you just replace the pads; evidently someone thinks they should be replaced

:roll:

Come on folks. He's not going to kill anybody even if his rear brakes go out completely, the fronts do most of the work anyway.

not when the pads ware out, break the cylinder and bleed fluid all over the place; totally destroying the ability to break using the main system.

Ummm, no. That is not how braking systems are designed at all. (Try diagonal circuits for the past 20-30 years.) Not to mention the spelling errors.

But by all means, keep the ATOT knee-jerk reaction train rolling.

actually its not too far from truth. if you bust a line at the rear brakes, pressure will definitely hamper the fronts from working. i have a 01 dodge truck, same basic design for the master cylinder as my older cars. i had the brakes done a year ago, the backs were so out of adjustment they effectively werent being used. once they were adjusted correctly, it was like having super glue on the tires when i hit the pedal. they do help a lot in stopping, even tho they arent fully necessary for normal stopping. the fronts definitely wear out faster without the back brakes working correctly
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy

Ummm, no. That is not how braking systems are designed at all. (Try diagonal circuits for the past 20-30 years.) Not to mention the spelling errors.

But by all means, keep the ATOT knee-jerk reaction train rolling.

Um... this happened to my car; break shoes where not changed for WAY to long and the brake cut itself open and leaked break fluid everywhere. Next thing i know, no breaks at all. This is a 1997 chevy sonoma.

You had other problems then. Your whole brake system was shot. The master cylinder is segregated to prevent this exact occurrence. You should be able to clip your rear brake lines, and still have functioning front brakes.

thats only partially effective. if you jack on the brakes or press them hard and fast the fluid will push to the back reservoir and leak out regardless. there is no actual seal, just a crappy rubber gasket with room to flow either way. been a while since ive done a brake job, but thats what ive seen on pretty much all my cars. i havent done the brakes on my 2001 yet, and thats the newest one i have.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Feb 15, 2000
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I've always found it funny that in California you can effectively register a car with missing doors, a pair of vice grips as a steering wheel, brakes that only function in theory, and missing rear windows...

...but if the gas cap leaks just a tiny bit, you fail.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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part of me wants him to do it and get caught..just so he can post about it here and us laugh at him.
 

SammySnood

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I'd be at least as concerned about the effects of failed rear brakes on directional stability when stopping or reducing speed as on their effect on the overall stopping distance. Behavior of the vehicle in extreme maneuvers requiring simultaneous application of brake and steering input away from neutral would be compromised. I wouldn't want to experience the worst possible behavior from a vehicle in an evasive maneuvering situation.

Of course the rear brakes haven't actually failed yet, have they? Still, the result of violating law and common sense has results ranging from getting away with it and saving a few bucks all the way to getting your life ruined by a sometimes (as in often) nasty legal system and / or litigation.
 

Itchrelief

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Ethics + ATOT always = epic threads for some reason. Gotta love it.

edit: Don't disappoint me :)
 

jemcam

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Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Here's an idea, get the rear brakes done so you can get a legit sticker and avoid killing somebody.

this

why don't you just replace the pads; evidently someone thinks they should be replaced

:roll:

Come on folks. He's not going to kill anybody even if his rear brakes go out completely, the fronts do most of the work anyway.

not when the pads ware out, break the cylinder and bleed fluid all over the place; totally destroying the ability to break using the main system.

You are an idiot and don't understand cars at all do you?
 

SuperSix

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Here's an idea, get the rear brakes done so you can get a legit sticker and avoid killing somebody.

Goddamn it Gag! How many times do I have to tell you.. LEAVE COMMON SENSE UT OF IT!!

Jeesh - some people never learn.
 

Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy

Ummm, no. That is not how braking systems are designed at all. (Try diagonal circuits for the past 20-30 years.) Not to mention the spelling errors.

But by all means, keep the ATOT knee-jerk reaction train rolling.

Um... this happened to my car; break shoes where not changed for WAY to long and the brake cut itself open and leaked break fluid everywhere. Next thing i know, no breaks at all. This is a 1997 chevy sonoma.

LOL.

again, LOL.

Please educate yourself and stop spreading FUD.
 

Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Here's an idea, get the rear brakes done so you can get a legit sticker and avoid killing somebody.

this

why don't you just replace the pads; evidently someone thinks they should be replaced

:roll:

Come on folks. He's not going to kill anybody even if his rear brakes go out completely, the fronts do most of the work anyway.

Even with the fronts doing most of the work, the back still do some and if they are dead that means increased stopping distances.

Increased stopping distances are bad Mkay?

Well of course I agree, but saying that he's going to kill someone is a little out of line. :p
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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The brakes are fine. They just need to be replaced soon which I am doing this weekend. My sticker was expired. Needed this done asap.

BMW light comes on when your brake pads need to be replaced. They have about 4,000 miles till they are completely worn out when that light comes on. You won't pass inspection with that light on. I'm not going to kill anyone because the BRAKES ARE FULLY FUNCTIONAL... but thanks for your assumptions that I am not going to change my rear brake pads. I mean I live on the edge... I don't even change the oil in my car.