Guy at UCLA computer lab gets tasered (now with youtube video!!)

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Canai

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Originally posted by: cessna152
Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: maziwanka
i'm shocked at some of these responses. the "price" of his resistance is being handcuffed and jailed, not being tazered repeatedly.

how the fvck can you honestly believe that the police have some uninhibited right to tell you what to do and then to use VIOLENCE when you don't comply.

The kid was out of control. It was legitimate use of the tazer.

You're out of control dude. And I'm ashamed ur from the northeast.

This is disgusting.

Bystanders were asking the police to stop and they were threatened by taser.

Why don't you cry about it, little baby?

Is that really necessary?

Comply, or I'll taze you.

Only five times? Can I have six, sir? Please?
 

Andyb23

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: maziwanka
i'm shocked at some of these responses. the "price" of his resistance is being handcuffed and jailed, not being tazered repeatedly.

how the fvck can you honestly believe that the police have some uninhibited right to tell you what to do and then to use VIOLENCE when you don't comply.

The kid was out of control. It was legitimate use of the tazer.

You're out of control dude. And I'm ashamed ur from the northeast.

This is disgusting.

Bystanders were asking the police to stop and they were threatened by taser.

Why don't you cry about it, little baby?

Little baby? I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Move to the south bro get outta here.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: swimscubasteve
Originally posted by: randal
After you are tased, you don't just "Stand up" ... you whole body goes rigid and muscle control ceases. There is a reason that police officers use tasers to subdue people - it makes them unable to resist arrest, aka get up and run away?

I am stunned that they would taser the crap out of him multiple times - and not for a second, but for 4-5 seconds, repeatedly - and then expect him to be able to move.

I'm as pro-police and pro-law enforcement as I can be, but this is over the top.

Actually, 99.9% of the time you do just have the ability to stand up. I've been tasered and seen it done to countless others. I don't know of one time that the person being tased wasn't fully mobile in 2-3 seconds.

For some reason, the kid couldn't say, "I can't get up," but he sure could say, "fvck you." Hmmm, weird.
 

maziwanka

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: maziwanka
i'm shocked at some of these responses. the "price" of his resistance is being handcuffed and jailed, not being tazered repeatedly.

how the fvck can you honestly believe that the police have some uninhibited right to tell you what to do and then to use VIOLENCE when you don't comply.

The kid was out of control. It was legitimate use of the tazer.

You're out of control dude. And I'm ashamed ur from the northeast.

This is disgusting.

Bystanders were asking the police to stop and they were threatened by taser.

Why don't you cry about it, little baby?

hahahaha. sweet response.

let me guess, you are fine with the government invading your privacy because "you have nothing to hide."
 
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Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: broon
Originally posted by: Andyb23
You're out of control dude. And I'm ashamed ur from the northeast.

This is disgusting.

Bystanders were asking the police to stop and they were threatened by taser.

Three cops and all those students? Don't you think the cops might have felt threatened by some of the other students?

As for that kind of tasing...no reason he couldn't have stood up afterwards. They chose it for that reason. The kid shouldn't have behaved that way.

Yea students assaulting cops thats really happened... /roll

I guess they don't teach you well down in Missourah

He was supposedly calling for others to help him in resisting and they started surrounding the cops. I'm sure the cops told them to sit the hell the hell down or back up and they probably didn't.

Also, as for why they grabbed his arm, well, he was asked to leave and didn't leave. He also wasn't authorized to be accessing the Internet at this public station. I think it's well within the cops right and might even be their responsibility to at least ask for some identification and see if the guy has outstanding warrants or is on some kind of watch list at which time they can see what he was doing on the computer.

Seriously, you guys all sound like pissy little teenagers angry at your mommies for not letting you go stand out in line for a PS3 tonight and taking it out on all authority.
 

randal

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With regard to rioting, I think that a single taser + handcuffs would have been a lot cleaner. Having hundreds of students watch you taze the shite out of another student does not help, as the emotional impact of agony is MUCH greater than the incoherent yells of a student being dragged off in cuffs. People see people cuffed all the time, that is no big deal. People do not see other people yelling like their being tortured every day ... and that makes people agitated and thus more likely to turn into a mob.
 

Andyb23

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Originally posted by: Canai
Come one you two... Keep the personal shiat in P&N. grow up.

P and N is about Politics and News. Why should I take "personal shiat" there? This seems like most immature forum on the website so its pretty appropriate.

Anyways back to the original topic these cops are going to be in a lot of trouble, if the student in question actually brings charges against 'em.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: pg22
UCLA has a large Persian-Jewish population. Far larger than Persian-Muslims (it's LA).

He's Persian for sure, great chance of being Jewish. They're (in)famous for hanging out in front of Powell as well.

Mostafa =/= Jewish

lol wtf does this have to do with patriot act? it seems like the daily bruin article is a bit biased.
 

uhohs

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Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: maziwanka
i'm shocked at some of these responses. the "price" of his resistance is being handcuffed and jailed, not being tazered repeatedly.

how the fvck can you honestly believe that the police have some uninhibited right to tell you what to do and then to use VIOLENCE when you don't comply.

The kid was out of control. It was legitimate use of the tazer.

You're out of control dude. And I'm ashamed ur from the northeast.

This is disgusting.

Bystanders were asking the police to stop and they were threatened by taser.

Why don't you cry about it, little baby?

Little baby? I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Move to the south bro get outta here.

E-THUGGERY BEGINS!
lol, craw back to the hole you came from.
 

cessna152

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Originally posted by: randal
With regard to rioting, I think that a single taser + handcuffs would have been a lot cleaner. Having hundreds of students watch you taze the shite out of another student does not help, as the emotional impact of agony is MUCH greater than the incoherent yells of a student being dragged off in cuffs. People see people cuffed all the time, that is no big deal. People do not see other people yelling like their being tortured every day ... and that makes people agitated and thus more likely to turn into a mob.

QFT.

I agree the guy should have been arrested. I don't agree with the methods used to get compliance.

 

Canai

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Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: Canai
Come one you two... Keep the personal shiat in P&N. grow up.

P and N is about Politics and News. Why should I take "personal shiat" there? This seems like most immature forum on the website so its pretty appropriate.

Anyways back to the original topic these cops are going to be in a lot of trouble, if the student in question actually brings charges against 'em.

personal attacks. Don't belong anywhere around here.

edit: just cause you feel the need to insult someone you will never meet over the internet...
 

Phokus

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lol, you guys know if the guy had been white, they would NOT taser him... lets be real here.

Oh well, whatever makes racists feel safer.

 

uhohs

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Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: maziwanka
i'm shocked at some of these responses. the "price" of his resistance is being handcuffed and jailed, not being tazered repeatedly.

how the fvck can you honestly believe that the police have some uninhibited right to tell you what to do and then to use VIOLENCE when you don't comply.

The kid was out of control. It was legitimate use of the tazer.

You're out of control dude. And I'm ashamed ur from the northeast.

This is disgusting.

Bystanders were asking the police to stop and they were threatened by taser.

Why don't you cry about it, little baby?

hahahaha. sweet response.

let me guess, you are fine with the government invading your privacy because "you have nothing to hide."

what does that have to do with anything? wait, don't tell me. HERE'S YOUR PATRIOT ACT! DOWN WITH THE FACIST GOVERNMENT!

lol kids.
 

theeedude

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Those cops should be fired and stripped of all benefits. The guy was not a threat to anyone, especially when they tasered him the first time. He didn't attack them or threaten them. There could have been all sorts of reasons why he couldn't get up. They should have called for medical care, not taser him again for not getting up. Plus to threaten to taser someone for simply asking for their badge number it is clear that these guys are on a power trip, and not in control of themselves.
If it wasn't for their unions, we wouldn't even have to waste time on them. But of course these cops are going to lie inspite of there being clear video evidence of abuse of power.
 

maziwanka

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two things -

first, stop the fvcking name calling. this is an interesting thread and lets keep it from degenerating.

second, i'm not defending the actions of the student. i think he was an idiot to cause a scene over not having an ID. HOWEVER, from what appear to be the facts of this case, the officers were NOT reasonable in their response to the student's actions (or lack thereof). if it was later determined, which i HIGHLY doubt, that the student attempted to go for something on the officers' belts, then the use of a tazer would be justified. the article posted by scubasteve in an earlier post is great; ask yourself, would an objectively reasonable officer have done the same thing in this situation? if you say yes, i think it would be a disgrace to the many fine police officers in this country.

 

Andyb23

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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: Canai
Come one you two... Keep the personal shiat in P&N. grow up.

P and N is about Politics and News. Why should I take "personal shiat" there? This seems like most immature forum on the website so its pretty appropriate.

Anyways back to the original topic these cops are going to be in a lot of trouble, if the student in question actually brings charges against 'em.

personal attacks. Don't belong anywhere around here.

edit: just cause you feel the need to insult someone you will never meet over the internet...

Reading Comprehension is a problem?

Why should I take this to P and N.

They seem to be discussing global issues not personal attacks.
 

Andyb23

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Originally posted by: uhohs
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: maziwanka
i'm shocked at some of these responses. the "price" of his resistance is being handcuffed and jailed, not being tazered repeatedly.

how the fvck can you honestly believe that the police have some uninhibited right to tell you what to do and then to use VIOLENCE when you don't comply.

The kid was out of control. It was legitimate use of the tazer.

You're out of control dude. And I'm ashamed ur from the northeast.

This is disgusting.

Bystanders were asking the police to stop and they were threatened by taser.

Why don't you cry about it, little baby?

hahahaha. sweet response.

let me guess, you are fine with the government invading your privacy because "you have nothing to hide."

what does that have to do with anything? wait, don't tell me. HERE'S YOUR PATRIOT ACT! DOWN WITH THE FACIST GOVERNMENT!

lol kids.

Dude your government went down in the last election I voted in bro.

Apparently the "kids" are right.
 
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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: pg22
UCLA has a large Persian-Jewish population. Far larger than Persian-Muslims (it's LA).

He's Persian for sure, great chance of being Jewish. They're (in)famous for hanging out in front of Powell as well.

Mostafa =/= Jewish

lol wtf does this have to do with patriot act? it seems like the daily bruin article is a bit biased.

Surprising given that our University system is a bastion of conservative ideology.
 

JS80

Lifer
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lol...thank God it was black and asian officers...if they were white this would be all over MSM.
 

MrX8503

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This incident seems to be very controversial.

I agree with the cops being able to use the tazer if someone doesnt comply, but were the extra tases necessary?

3+ Cops werent able to carry a tazed handcuffed college student out of the library?

After someone has been tazed and handcuffed, the situation should be under control. The cops saying "stand up or you'll be tazed" sounded like an abuse of power. Their main objective is to have the situation under control.

I would think a student not standing up would be the least of the 3 Cops problems.
 

broon

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Originally posted by: Phokus
lol, you guys know if the guy had been white, they would NOT taser him... lets be real here.

Oh well, whatever makes racists feel safer.

That comment fosters racism. You don't know if they wouldn't have tasered him. It looked to me like there were at least two "minority" cops in that video. If the cops were racist they sure would have tasered a white kid.