(Guru3D) kaby Lake i7 is another boring quad

[myocardia]

There are skylake cpus with edram, I know they are top of the line in surface pro. Dont know where else they are, but it is unfortunate that edram is restricted to mainly 1500.00 plus devices.

Yeah, sorry, I meant desktop SKUs, not mobile. I should have specified.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I wish I knew, but I don't. I was actually surprised that Intel never released any Skylake SKUs with eDRAM. I've started to wonder if they have canceled eDRAM completely, at least for the 14nm process, besides their attempt with Broadwell.

It seemed to me that there were some coming, but that they'd take so long to hit the market that they'd launch alongside Kabylake.

I don't see why it would. It would add transistors, though, so it's possible. I just can't imagine Intel releasing a new iGPu, even calling it Gen 10 in-house, and it not having higher performance than the generation before.

Intel's weird-arse cadence for their CPU/APU releases would be the reason why. If they're still on Gen9 + eDRAM for Skylake-C this Oct-Dec then that APU will, by necessity, not have the decoder enhancements of Kabylake. Outside of the decoders I don't think there will be any performance difference per EU (before taking eDRAM into account) when comparing Skylake and Kabylake. Or so it seems!

 

[Heatshiver]

Kaby Lake is super boring for PC enthusiasts, that's why I don't recommend that anybody sit there and "wait" for it.

Totally agree with you. If you are going to wait, then just wait until Kaby Lake drops, then keep waiting. Patience is a virtue.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Totally agree with you. If you are going to wait, then just wait until Kaby Lake drops, then keep waiting. Patience is a virtue.

:thumbsup:

 

[IntelUser2000]

...not have the decoder enhancements of Kabylake. Outside of the decoders I don't think there will be any performance difference per EU (before taking eDRAM into account) when comparing Skylake and Kabylake. Or so it seems!

Hmm. I am going to have some fun. Remember that article about Polaris being delayed and the leader of RTG wanting to move themselves to Intel? Also they say the new Intel leader(not the CEO) fired 1,000+ graphics related guys.

Perhaps, maybe just perhaps, the serious delay and the lack of performance with iGPUs have to do with this? What if the GT4e was so delayed because the team necessary for its launch got fired? Haswell GT3e was Q3-Q4 2013. We should have seen Broadwell and Skylake eDRAM versions 6-8 months ago.

If Intel can effectively manage RTG*, I'd be happy if that happens. It'll essentially be Radeons + Intel process. Granted Intel seems to be losing their process lead, but even on par, they'll be far better off. In reality, Intel will be Intel and screw up RTG and end up dismantling it because of cultural differences that inevitably exist between two leaders.

*Ideally it should be what RTG is doing now + Intel's money/tools/support/process. Graphics should be left alone by rest of Intel. Let them do their work.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Intel would do exactly what AMD did to a graphics company. The only way it will work with RTG/Nvidia for example is via licensed designs.