Guns N' Roses on Tour

slimrhcp

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Is anyone here planning on seeing GNR on tour in the next couple months? I'm going in a couple weeks with fellow ATOTer ShortSpanishGuy to see them at the MCI Center in Baltimore.

Please refrain from making any comments relating to Slash in this thread.
 

Fritzo

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Hey, Slash is an excellent guitarist. Probably one of the few "rock god" guitarists that isn't over 50 left in the world :)

I'd love to see them live. They're a great band, they just have a lot of personality issues (Axl).
 

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Slash isn't touring with them is he?


Slash walked out on the band in 1995/6. He's great no doubt, but he's the one that didn't want to work things out.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Slash isn't touring with them is he?


Slash walked out on the band in 1995/6. He's great no doubt, but he's the one that didn't want to work things out.

I know when he left, but I was just wondering why the guy was talking about Slash being a great player.

Slash has said in the past that he'll never go back to GNR. No surprise though.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Slash isn't touring with them is he?


Slash walked out on the band in 1995/6. He's great no doubt, but he's the one that didn't want to work things out.

WHAT?? Well crap. I ain't going then :(
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Slash isn't touring with them is he?


Slash walked out on the band in 1995/6. He's great no doubt, but he's the one that didn't want to work things out.

WHAT?? Well crap. I ain't going then :(

Go back home under that rock :)
 

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GNR coming - no one cares!! Axl will show up late, lose his voice, slap-fight with someone, blah blah blah, yawn yawn yawn.
 

slimrhcp

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Originally posted by: Motorheader
GNR coming - no one cares!! Axl will show up late, lose his voice, slap-fight with someone, blah blah blah, yawn yawn yawn.


If you bothered to read any of the reviews from shows dating back to May of this year you'd be eating your words about now.
 

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Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: Motorheader
GNR coming - no one cares!! Axl will show up late, lose his voice, slap-fight with someone, blah blah blah, yawn yawn yawn.


If you bothered to read any of the reviews from shows dating back to May of this year you'd be eating your words about now.

Or listened to bootlegs, watched videos. Start with gunsnroses.com they have some pro-shot videos. I've got my tickets for Nov. 27 at Allstate in Chicago. :)
 

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Always an act to buy tickets with caution thanks to Mr. Rose.

I don't think there has ever been a GnR tour that every single show was played.
 

slimrhcp

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Originally posted by: michaels
I have some of their new stuff demo copy, but have not listened to it.

That's a shame because you're missing out on some good music.
 

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Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: Motorheader
GNR coming - no one cares!! Axl will show up late, lose his voice, slap-fight with someone, blah blah blah, yawn yawn yawn.


If you bothered to read any of the reviews from shows dating back to May of this year you'd be eating your words about now.

You're kidding, right. Some of their original stuff was epic, but 15 years is a couple of lifetimes in music and musical trends. Did you happen to catch it when they closed the MTV awards show a couple of years back? What a boring burn out retread that was. He couldn't carry a note and his voice was toasted - and they weren't even touring at the time.

Pffft...reviewers, record promoters, tour promoters. They are all in the same boat - money and how much can be milked from the past. Axl bought the rights to a name/product and is milking it for all it's worth. The significance of GnR touring now is right up there with the American Idol Tour coming to a town near you.

A fan of GnR past.
 

slimrhcp

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Originally posted by: Motorheader
Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: Motorheader
GNR coming - no one cares!! Axl will show up late, lose his voice, slap-fight with someone, blah blah blah, yawn yawn yawn.


If you bothered to read any of the reviews from shows dating back to May of this year you'd be eating your words about now.

You're kidding, right. Some of their original stuff was epic, but 15 years is a couple of lifetimes in music and musical trends. Did you happen to catch it when they closed the MTV awards show a couple of years back? What a boring burn out retread that was. He couldn't carry a note and his voice was toasted - and they weren't even touring at the time.

Pffft...reviewers, record promoters, tour promoters. They are all in the same boat - money and how much can be milked from the past. Axl bought the rights to a name/product and is milking it for all it's worth. The significance of GnR touring now is right up there with the American Idol Tour coming to a town near you.

A fan of GnR past.

Okay, have you heard any of the new songs? If so, then you'll realize that all of the "epic songs" were almost entirely composed by Axl.

As far as the 02 vma debacle goes, the problem was Axl couldn't hear his voice during Welcome to the Jungle. If you watch the video of it, you'll notice him trying to adjust his earphone. By the time they were playing the second song, he was on key, and sounded good.

What do reporters have to gain from giving the new GNR a positive review?

The reason Axl bought the name was because he wanted to ensure that the name they made would live on no matter what. It's not hard to see why Axl was worried when you think about the substance abuse problems in the band (ie Duff, Slash, Izzy, and Matt) after what happened with Steven Adler.

If you took the time to listen to GNR before, what is it going to cost you to listen to some of the new songs?
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: slimrhcp
It's not hard to see why Axl was worried when you think about the substance abuse problems in the band (ie Duff, Slash, Izzy, and Matt) after what happened with Steven Adler.
HAHAHHA. Wow that's classic. Axl was worried about the other guys?
 

slimrhcp

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: slimrhcp
It's not hard to see why Axl was worried when you think about the substance abuse problems in the band (ie Duff, Slash, Izzy, and Matt) after what happened with Steven Adler.
HAHAHHA. Wow that's classic. Axl was worried about the other guys?


No he was worried about the GNR the band continuing. But in his defense, he tried more than anyone else in the band to keep Steven around.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Chinese Democracy is allegedly being released within the next month.

I've heard 8-10 songs from it........and it's crap. GNR just isn't GNR without Slash.

It's like some guitarist trying to make GNR sound modern. Robin Finch is in the freaking band! He was a good guitarist for NIN, but for the love of god he doesn't have the talent to play those good bluesy metal lines that Slash could.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Slash isn't touring with them is he?


Slash walked out on the band in 1995/6. He's great no doubt, but he's the one that didn't want to work things out.
Uh, no. Axl is the cause of the entire split. Not Slash.

There is no more Guns n Roses, just the Axl Rose Band masquerading as GnR.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: Motorheader
Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: Motorheader
GNR coming - no one cares!! Axl will show up late, lose his voice, slap-fight with someone, blah blah blah, yawn yawn yawn.


If you bothered to read any of the reviews from shows dating back to May of this year you'd be eating your words about now.

You're kidding, right. Some of their original stuff was epic, but 15 years is a couple of lifetimes in music and musical trends. Did you happen to catch it when they closed the MTV awards show a couple of years back? What a boring burn out retread that was. He couldn't carry a note and his voice was toasted - and they weren't even touring at the time.

Pffft...reviewers, record promoters, tour promoters. They are all in the same boat - money and how much can be milked from the past. Axl bought the rights to a name/product and is milking it for all it's worth. The significance of GnR touring now is right up there with the American Idol Tour coming to a town near you.

A fan of GnR past.

Okay, have you heard any of the new songs? If so, then you'll realize that all of the "epic songs" were almost entirely composed by Axl.

As far as the 02 vma debacle goes, the problem was Axl couldn't hear his voice during Welcome to the Jungle. If you watch the video of it, you'll notice him trying to adjust his earphone. By the time they were playing the second song, he was on key, and sounded good.

What do reporters have to gain from giving the new GNR a positive review?

The reason Axl bought the name was because he wanted to ensure that the name they made would live on no matter what. It's not hard to see why Axl was worried when you think about the substance abuse problems in the band (ie Duff, Slash, Izzy, and Matt) after what happened with Steven Adler.

If you took the time to listen to GNR before, what is it going to cost you to listen to some of the new songs?
First of all, Axl is a nut case, period. His history proves this beyond all shadow of a doubt, even some antics on this current tour.
He is the reason that Chinese Democracy, which is mostly crap, hasn't come out yet.
Bob Ezrin was called in to give an opinion on C.D. and told Axl he had maybe 2 good songs.
Axl went ballistic, supposedly...not surprising.

Axl bought the GnR name so he could have control....and he isn't capable of having control. That's why no new music.
That's why the real GnR is defunct.

And I heard the 02 VMA's...Axl sounded like he always does live. I've heard numerous recordings from the current tour of varying quality...and the one thing that doesn't vary is that Axl's voice is about the same as it was 12-14 years ago...hit or miss.

I don't think he's ever sang Sweet Child good live. Always sounds like a frog singing that song.
He's very erratic on other live songs. Just like always.
 

slimrhcp

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: slimrhcp
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Slash isn't touring with them is he?


Slash walked out on the band in 1995/6. He's great no doubt, but he's the one that didn't want to work things out.
Uh, no. Axl is the cause of the entire split. Not Slash.

There is no more Guns n Roses, just the Axl Rose Band masquerading as GnR.

Funny how it's so much easier to blame Axl than it is to realize there were so many other things going on at the time in the band. Ever think about the fact that Axl and Dizzy were the only two members of the band without a substance abuse problem? Funny, which two members from the glory days are still in the band?

The only people who were "fired" were Gilby and Steven. If you want to be specific, Slash was really just trying to fill Tracii Guns' shoes.