Gun toting soccer mom and husband dead in apparent murder/suicide

[PrinceofWands]

Sad news.

Lebanon City police tell CBS 21 News they are investigating the death of a couple. Tonight, police say they found 31 year old Melanie Hain and 33 year old Scott Hain dead inside their home on S. Second Avenue. Police say it looks like a murder-suicide. CBS 21 news has interviewed Melanie Hain in the past. You may remember her from a story we did when she wore a gun on her hip to her child's soccer game. Police say the death investigation is ongoing and autopsies have been scheduled.

Who knows what actually caused it, but it's still sad. I sent a letter of support encouragement when it was all going on. Wish I could have done more. 8-(

If it does end up being linked to them being ostracized and all the other negative fallout it be a galvanizing factor in promoting a societal change in how we view rights, and how we respond as communities to disagreements over them.

EDIT: Ok, with the new information it appears it had nothing to do with what went on before (at least not directly), so I guess the thread can die now.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Sad news.

Lebanon City police tell CBS 21 News they are investigating the death of a couple. Tonight, police say they found 31 year old Melanie Hain and 33 year old Scott Hain dead inside their home on S. Second Avenue. Police say it looks like a murder-suicide. CBS 21 news has interviewed Melanie Hain in the past. You may remember her from a story we did when she wore a gun on her hip to her child's soccer game. Police say the death investigation is ongoing and autopsies have been scheduled.

Who knows what actually caused it, but it's still sad. I sent a letter of support encouragement when it was all going on. Wish I could have done more. 8-(

If it does end up being linked to them being ostracized and all the other negative fallout it be a galvanizing factor in promoting a societal change in how we view rights, and how we respond as communities to disagreements over them.

you would make this into a poor oppressed gun owners shitthread.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Sad news.

Lebanon City police tell CBS 21 News they are investigating the death of a couple. Tonight, police say they found 31 year old Melanie Hain and 33 year old Scott Hain dead inside their home on S. Second Avenue. Police say it looks like a murder-suicide. CBS 21 news has interviewed Melanie Hain in the past. You may remember her from a story we did when she wore a gun on her hip to her child's soccer game. Police say the death investigation is ongoing and autopsies have been scheduled.

Who knows what actually caused it, but it's still sad. I sent a letter of support encouragement when it was all going on. Wish I could have done more. 8-(

If it does end up being linked to them being ostracized and all the other negative fallout it be a galvanizing factor in promoting a societal change in how we view rights, and how we respond as communities to disagreements over them.

you would make this into a poor oppressed gun owners shitthread.

???

Not at all. It's P&N. This topic was heavy into the P at the time, and now it's N once again. There's a chance that they're connected stories, though it's also possible they aren't. We may never know. If they are linked I offered a reasonable explanation as to how and why, and suggested it could have future ramifications. That was in addition to offering my sympathy over the event.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
If it does end up being linked to them being ostracized and all the other negative fallout it be a galvanizing factor in promoting a societal change in how we view rights, and how we respond as communities to disagreements over them.

you would make this into a poor oppressed gun owners shitthread.

???

Not at all. It's P&N. This topic was heavy into the P at the time, and now it's N once again. There's a chance that they're connected stories, though it's also possible they aren't. We may never know. If they are linked I offered a reasonable explanation as to how and why, and suggested it could have future ramifications. That was in addition to offering my sympathy over the event.

"It not the gun owners fault for a murder suicide, its societies fault for not wanting them to have guns."

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
If it does end up being linked to them being ostracized and all the other negative fallout it be a galvanizing factor in promoting a societal change in how we view rights, and how we respond as communities to disagreements over them.

you would make this into a poor oppressed gun owners shitthread.

???

Not at all. It's P&N. This topic was heavy into the P at the time, and now it's N once again. There's a chance that they're connected stories, though it's also possible they aren't. We may never know. If they are linked I offered a reasonable explanation as to how and why, and suggested it could have future ramifications. That was in addition to offering my sympathy over the event.

"It not the gun owners fault for a murder suicide, its societies fault for not wanting them to have guns."

I said nothing similar. Obviously they made a choice...well, at least one of them did. And I don't respect it. However, if it was directly tied into what they went through then at the very least I understand it and hope it serves to make positive changes in society. What else good can be hoped for from something like this?

 

[Wheezer]

Gun toting soccor mom and husband dead in apparent murder/suicide

what the fuck is "soccor?"

you know when a title to a P&N thread has a spelling mistake, the whole thread kind of loses steam.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Sad news.

Lebanon City police tell CBS 21 News they are investigating the death of a couple. Tonight, police say they found 31 year old Melanie Hain and 33 year old Scott Hain dead inside their home on S. Second Avenue. Police say it looks like a murder-suicide. CBS 21 news has interviewed Melanie Hain in the past. You may remember her from a story we did when she wore a gun on her hip to her child's soccer game. Police say the death investigation is ongoing and autopsies have been scheduled.

Who knows what actually caused it, but it's still sad. I sent a letter of support encouragement when it was all going on. Wish I could have done more. 8-(

If it does end up being linked to them being ostracized and all the other negative fallout it be a galvanizing factor in promoting a societal change in how we view rights, and how we respond as communities to disagreements over them.

you would make this into a poor oppressed gun owners shitthread.

???

Not at all. It's P&N. This topic was heavy into the P at the time, and now it's N once again. There's a chance that they're connected stories, though it's also possible they aren't. We may never know. If they are linked I offered a reasonable explanation as to how and why, and suggested it could have future ramifications. That was in addition to offering my sympathy over the event.

In short gun crazies go crazy.

 

[Triumph]

Need more info before I can pass judgement. Although at this time I can only assume that a gun grabbing lib used her own gun on her and her husband to further his/her cause.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

She and her husband sound like total idiots, and I can only conclude that the likeliest explanation is that the same narcissism that made them insist on openly carrying a gun at a friggin' soccer game is the same mentality that led to a murder-suicide with their kids in the house, ensuring the kids will never have normal lives. If that's what happened (obviously there are several other potential explanations), I hope they both rot in hell.

EDIT: Here is a picture of the late Mrs. Hain.

 

[StageLeft]

If it does end up being linked to them being ostracized and all the other negative fallout it be a galvanizing factor in promoting a societal change in how we view rights, and how we respond as communities to disagreements over them.

Society sucks at tolerating differences even when they only affect the person who believes/does whatever he believes or does.

As I continue to learn that we are all screwed up inside it makes it much easier to, if not understand, at least not be so shocked at why grown seemingly adjusted adults would engage in hobbies like train spotting, stamp collecting, wearing women's panties, do all their cycling on a unicycle, etc.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
She and her husband sound like total idiots, and I can only conclude that the likeliest explanation is that the same narcissism that made them insist on openly carrying a gun at a friggin' soccer game is the same mentality that led to a murder-suicide with their kids in the house, ensuring the kids will never have normal lives. If that's what happened (obviously there are several other potential explanations), I hope they both rot in hell.

EDIT: Here is a picture of the late Mrs. Hain.

Pretty much.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
She and her husband sound like total idiots, and I can only conclude that the likeliest explanation is that the same narcissism that made them insist on openly carrying a gun at a friggin' soccer game is the same mentality that led to a murder-suicide with their kids in the house, ensuring the kids will never have normal lives. If that's what happened (obviously there are several other potential explanations), I hope they both rot in hell.

EDIT: Here is a picture of the late Mrs. Hain.

Pretty much.

+1

 

[alchemize]

Why can't it just be a crazy person killed his spouse then himself? (assuming it was the guy that killed her).

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Why can't it just be a crazy person killed his spouse then himself? (assuming it was the guy that killed her).

Quite possible. Honestly my initial, hostile reaction was based on the assumption that she killed him, but the initial reports suggest that the opposite happened (or at least that's what the kids told neighbors). She strikes me as a total nut, and it's hard to believe that nuttiness didn't permeate their relationship, but I don't mean to imply that being a crazy person is a hanging offense.

As a (related) digression, I think it's unfortunate that some gun advocates are nuttier than squirrel poop. I myself am a gun owner, and generally support the rights of gun owners despite my generally liberal politics. People like this, though, taint the whole community of lawful gun owners by acting as though they've been persecuted because other parents aren't comfortable with them openly carrying at a child's sporting event. I think there are places where it's entirely appropriate to curtail open carry, and this is one.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
She and her husband sound like total idiots, and I can only conclude that the likeliest explanation is that the same narcissism that made them insist on openly carrying a gun at a friggin' soccer game is the same mentality that led to a murder-suicide with their kids in the house, ensuring the kids will never have normal lives. If that's what happened (obviously there are several other potential explanations), I hope they both rot in hell.

EDIT: Here is a picture of the late Mrs. Hain.

I wonder if she was an advocate of secession and violent rebellion by the citizens of this country if they don't happen to like what's going on in our gov't, like the asshat in my sig?

 

[Dari]

Idiots.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Sad news.

Lebanon City police tell CBS 21 News they are investigating the death of a couple. Tonight, police say they found 31 year old Melanie Hain and 33 year old Scott Hain dead inside their home on S. Second Avenue. Police say it looks like a murder-suicide. CBS 21 news has interviewed Melanie Hain in the past. You may remember her from a story we did when she wore a gun on her hip to her child's soccer game. Police say the death investigation is ongoing and autopsies have been scheduled.

Who knows what actually caused it, but it's still sad. I sent a letter of support encouragement when it was all going on. Wish I could have done more. 8-(

If it does end up being linked to them being ostracized and all the other negative fallout it be a galvanizing factor in promoting a societal change in how we view rights, and how we respond as communities to disagreements over them.

you would make this into a poor oppressed gun owners shitthread.

You would make this into a guns are evil shitthread?
Make a point.

But I guess you think it's the guns fault for the action, not the person that pulled the trigger.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
She and her husband sound like total idiots, and I can only conclude that the likeliest explanation is that the same narcissism that made them insist on openly carrying a gun at a friggin' soccer game is the same mentality that led to a murder-suicide with their kids in the house, ensuring the kids will never have normal lives. If that's what happened (obviously there are several other potential explanations), I hope they both rot in hell.

EDIT: Here is a picture of the late Mrs. Hain.

Please tell me how expressing ones rights is narcissim and how that type of mentality would make one want to commit suicide?

Apparently you are projecting your feelings as you don't actually know what the person in the article was feeling.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
If it does end up being linked to them being ostracized and all the other negative fallout it be a galvanizing factor in promoting a societal change in how we view rights, and how we respond as communities to disagreements over them.

you would make this into a poor oppressed gun owners shitthread.

???

Not at all. It's P&N. This topic was heavy into the P at the time, and now it's N once again. There's a chance that they're connected stories, though it's also possible they aren't. We may never know. If they are linked I offered a reasonable explanation as to how and why, and suggested it could have future ramifications. That was in addition to offering my sympathy over the event.

"It not the gun owners fault for a murder suicide, its societies fault for not wanting them to have guns."

Guns don't kill people. Society kills people.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: alchemize
Why can't it just be a crazy person killed his spouse then himself? (assuming it was the guy that killed her).

Quite possible. Honestly my initial, hostile reaction was based on the assumption that she killed him, but the initial reports suggest that the opposite happened (or at least that's what the kids told neighbors). She strikes me as a total nut, and it's hard to believe that nuttiness didn't permeate their relationship, but I don't mean to imply that being a crazy person is a hanging offense.

As a (related) digression, I think it's unfortunate that some gun advocates are nuttier than squirrel poop. I myself am a gun owner, and generally support the rights of gun owners despite my generally liberal politics. People like this, though, taint the whole community of lawful gun owners by acting as though they've been persecuted because other parents aren't comfortable with them openly carrying at a child's sporting event. I think there are places where it's entirely appropriate to curtail open carry, and this is one.

Why? So you're ok with taking away rights if it makes you feel warm and fuzy inside?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Jeffrey's Lobotamy
You would make this into a guns are evil shitthread?
Make a point.

But I guess you think it's the guns fault for the action, not the person that pulled the trigger.

I haven't a problem with you being depressed and owning a gun.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Please tell me how expressing ones rights is narcissim and how that type of mentality would make one want to commit suicide?

Apparently you are projecting your feelings as you don't actually know what the person in the article was feeling.

She had no "right" to bring a gun to a private event. I believe any sane person would agree it's stupid to openly carry a weapon at a children's sporting event, and any reasonable parent would object to this conduct. I see her insistence on the issue as entirely self-absorbed and crazy, and I also see a murder-suicide with children in the house as a self-absorbed and crazy act. Do I have to draw you a diagram or something?

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
She and her husband sound like total idiots, and I can only conclude that the likeliest explanation is that the same narcissism that made them insist on openly carrying a gun at a friggin' soccer game is the same mentality that led to a murder-suicide with their kids in the house, ensuring the kids will never have normal lives. If that's what happened (obviously there are several other potential explanations), I hope they both rot in hell.

EDIT: Here is a picture of the late Mrs. Hain.

Please tell me how expressing ones rights is narcissim and how that type of mentality would make one want to commit suicide?

Apparently you are projecting your feelings as you don't actually know what the person in the article was feeling.

You can be a total jerk precisely for acting on your rights, especially if your actions show a callous disregard for others. For example, I would be fully within my rights to create and display the following bumper sticker, which tweaks two groups that I find insufferable:

Proud non-parent of a late-term aborted fetus

But if I did such a thing, it would be fair to call me an asshole for having so little sensitivity to the values of others.

So, yes, I think anyone who carries a firearm to a children's event has a truly warped sense of their own importance.

 

[spidey07]

Sad and very unfortunate. Happens all the time gun or no gun.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: alchemize
Why can't it just be a crazy person killed his spouse then himself? (assuming it was the guy that killed her).

Quite possible. Honestly my initial, hostile reaction was based on the assumption that she killed him, but the initial reports suggest that the opposite happened (or at least that's what the kids told neighbors). She strikes me as a total nut, and it's hard to believe that nuttiness didn't permeate their relationship, but I don't mean to imply that being a crazy person is a hanging offense.

As a (related) digression, I think it's unfortunate that some gun advocates are nuttier than squirrel poop. I myself am a gun owner, and generally support the rights of gun owners despite my generally liberal politics. People like this, though, taint the whole community of lawful gun owners by acting as though they've been persecuted because other parents aren't comfortable with them openly carrying at a child's sporting event. I think there are places where it's entirely appropriate to curtail open carry, and this is one.

extremist gun advocates like the NRA make other gun owners look bad.


<---- owns a gun